Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> On Jun 3, 6:17 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "still me" wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:08:34 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>>>>> Go to Mexico and boo the government and see what happens to you.
>>>>> Which has what to do with anything?
>>>> It's simple: fail to support Bush and his policies and we will all
>>>> end up living in a third world nation!
>> We are going down that road anyway by giving all our money to China for
>> consumer goods. This country used to be the manufacturing powerhouse but
>> that is long gone and we owe most of it to China. I tried to buy
>> American until it became impossible and now you have China-mart, umm,
>> Wal-mart and the only jobs they have created are mostly minimum wage.
>
> Step 2 is outsourcing all the IT and engineering jobs needed to
> support this manufacturing.
Which is why I am an underemployed engineer. The most 'in your face'
example of this was a temp job I took an 1998 as a software 'tester'.
When I found a bug I documented it and at the end of the day the total
bug report was sent via Internet to the programmers in India. I wasn't
allowed to even make a suggestion on how to fix the code. It's no wonder
American kids are not taking engineering in college, since anything that
can be outsourced over seas is being done.
>
>>>> Jesus H., do I have to explain everything to you?
>>> Still Me is quite right on this point. I do not understand Bush's advocacy
>>> for immigration to this nation. The net effect of it will be to create a new
>>> downtrodden class of people.
>> We do need to change the sign on the Statue of Liberty to say "We're
>> full, now go home.". Mexicans are getting here illegally by the millions
>> yet I have known British professionals who have been kicked out for
>> overstaying their time. I was born here yet native whites are becoming
>> the new minority. My country is becoming their country.
>
> So, movement of labor should be restricted while capital is free to
> move to the countries with the lowest wages, lowest environmental
> standards and least freedom?
I didn't say that. What we need is an outsourcing tax on big companies
to make it painful for them to send the work out of our country. Also an
import tax so the junk from China won't be so appealing to save a few
dollars. The way it is going there should be a warning about buying the
cheapest stuff from other countries, like "The job you save may be your
own.".
>
>>> America should no longer be a magnet for immigrants. We should do everything
>>> in our power to discourage them from coming here - except for Ph.D's of
>>> course and other highly skilled intellectuals. We do not want or need
>>> peasants from Mexico.
>> Yet there is still no wall on the Mexican border, Bush is talking
>> amnesty for Illegals (Mexicans), and it is harder than hell for an
>> educated European to come over here legally. The idiot in the oval
>> office has not done anything for this country except to blow a ton of
>> money on Iraq. Does anybody else think this stinks?
>
> Why would educated Europeans want to come to the US in large numbers?
> Quality of life (which involves more than net income, size of house,
> car and flat screen TV) is worse for all but the very rich.
The Brits I have known came here for the money and less taxation but
hate the crowding. Apparently they pay a lot more taxes in Europe.
I can't answer that one.
Bill Baka
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