OT:The Perfect Political Campaign Button '06

[Donald Munro]

Howard Kveck wrote:
> The Iranians offered their sympathy to us after 9-11 and were snubbed by Bush. A
> short while later, they heard themselves called part of and "Axis of Evil." Way to
> go...

Usurpers and pretenders. Didn't you know its us liberal commies who are
the really axis of evil. We're much eviler than Osama and couple of
Koreans, in fact we're the evilest, and its about time we reclaimed our
rightful place.

 

[Donald Munro]

Michael Press wrote:
>> > The army teaches self-discipline. The army is a route
>> > to the mainstream, and there is nothing wrong with the
>> > mainstream.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Damn, I thought I'd make it to the mainstream through rbr.

Michael Press wrote:
> No, rbr teaches abuse.

I thought self abuse was a pain until I tried Smirnoff.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Bill Sornson:
>Pete, can you re-post your reply to that? My server's acting up, eating
>posts. (I just syncronized it and the problem seems to have ceased.)

Absolutely: equally worrisome.... It just didn't occur to me at that time.
--
PeteCresswell

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
Donald Munro <[email protected]> writes:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> The Iranians offered their sympathy to us after 9-11 and were snubbed by Bush. A
>> short while later, they heard themselves called part of and "Axis of Evil." Way to
>> go...
>
> Usurpers and pretenders. Didn't you know its us liberal commies who are
> the really axis of evil. We're much eviler than Osama and couple of
> Koreans, in fact we're the evilest, and its about time we reclaimed our
> rightful place.

These words he speaks are true.
We're all humanary stew,
if we don't pledge alliegence to:
The Black Widow!

nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh Nah nah Nah!



cheers,
Tom

--
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Above address is just a spam midden.
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[Bill Sornson]

Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-03-bus
>> h-troops_x.htm
>
> So what do you suppose they think *now*, Bill? That poll is at
> least two years old.

Off-year election, of course, but I bet you they favor Bush over Kerry NOW
by an even higher margin than the 84-16 it ended up being in '04. (And that
was when Dems were still giving lip service to supporting the war in
Afghanistan, BTW; that stopped about a nanosecond after Kerry lost.)

 

[Bill Sornson]

Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists and
>> they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground), then
>> why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
>
> Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released tapes
> before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From Ron
> Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":

Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops support"
thread -- using OLD information.

That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article describing the
CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747

Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL

 

[Bill Sornson]

Howard Kveck wrote:

> The Iranians offered their sympathy to us after 9-11 and were
> snubbed by Bush. A short while later, they heard themselves called
> part of and "Axis of Evil." Way to go...

Yeah, they'd be all for supporting Israel's right to exist if Bush hadn't
said those three words. Now they want to wipe Israel off the face of the
earth and get nukes to do it, all because of GWB.

Right, Qwack, right.

 

[damyth]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>
> > The Iranians offered their sympathy to us after 9-11 and were
> > snubbed by Bush. A short while later, they heard themselves called
> > part of and "Axis of Evil." Way to go...
>
> Yeah, they'd be all for supporting Israel's right to exist if Bush hadn't
> said those three words. Now they want to wipe Israel off the face of the
> earth and get nukes to do it, all because of GWB.
>
> Right, Qwack, right.

Interesting that you bring up Israel. Remember Wolfowitz stated before
the war "the road to Middle East peace goes through Baghdad."
Wolfowitz was basically saying if we win Iraq (quickly) it will be
easier for us to settle/mediate in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

Bush also refused to talk with Arafat, claiming Arafat couldn't be
trusted as an excuse.

Since then, Arafat has died, Hamas won the elections, Hezbollah and
Israel went thru a war. Yeah. Another Bush "success" in the Middle
East. I guess we only spread democracy if other people elect parties
the United States likes.

 

[Dane Buson]

In rec.bicycles.misc Bill Sornson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dane Buson wrote:
>> In rec.bicycles.misc di <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> listen to the American Media, it's a disaster. Turn off NBC, ABC,
>>> CBS, CNN, & New York Times, talk to people, you just may be
>>> surprised.
>>
>> Actually, I get most of my news from places like the BBC and other
>> world news sources. If anything they paint an even grimmer view.
>
> The BBC is way left-leaning (sounds nicer than virulently anti-American).

Okay, so the American Media is *not* to be *trusted*. The BBC,
considered by many to be perhaps the preeminent provider of world news
and information, is *not* to be trusted. [1] I'm assuming you'd consider
the venerable and notoriously non-partisan Christian Science Monitor to
be right out. Who does that leave?

[1] Considering the UK is our closest ally in the Iraq imbroglio, and
one of the few countries who isn't making noises about pulling out,
I'd like a suggestion of a better national source. [2]
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rvgure fvqr) nf n *fbhepr* bs *arjf* jvyy sbepr zr gb fgneg
erfrnepuvat nveyvar fpurqhyrf fb V pna pbzr naq fync Xney Ebir'f
cunyyhf bhg bs lbhe zbhgu. [3]
[3] Encrypted for adult language and the protection of delicate
sensibilities. Also for those with a weak grasp of Maya.

--
Dane Buson - [email protected]
zeal, n.:
Quality seen in new graduates -- if you're quick.

 

[Dane Buson]

In rec.bicycles.misc Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> The Iranians offered their sympathy to us after 9-11 and were snubbed by Bush. A
>> short while later, they heard themselves called part of and "Axis of Evil." Way to
>> go...
>
> Usurpers and pretenders. Didn't you know its us liberal commies who are
> the really axis of evil. We're much eviler than Osama and couple of
> Koreans, in fact we're the evilest, and its about time we reclaimed our
> rightful place.

One question: Do I have to grow the Che/Fidel beard? I'm fine with
taking my place as an Eeeevil socialist powermad henchman, but the beard
is a serious sticking point. If nothing else, my wife would object to
the scritchy-scratchy nature.

--
Dane Buson - [email protected]
"Remember kids, don't do crack, it's a ghetto drug"
- Bob Roberts

 

[damyth]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists and
> >> they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground), then
> >> why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
> >
> > Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released tapes
> > before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From Ron
> > Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":
>
> Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops support"
> thread -- using OLD information.
>
> That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article describing the
> CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...
>
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
>
> Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL

Since when did some Israeli editor have an inside line to Middle East
terrorists? You think Islamic terrorists would willing talk to some
Israeli editor what's really going on in their minds?

Why don't you address Howard Kveck earlier point that OBL wanted Bush
to win in 2004, and release a tape right before the 2004 election?

 

[Bill Sornson]

damyth wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>> Howard Kveck wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists
>>>> and they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground),
>>>> then why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
>>>
>>> Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released
>>> tapes before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From
>>> Ron Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":
>>
>> Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops
>> support" thread -- using OLD information.
>>
>> That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article
>> describing the CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...
>>
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
>>
>> Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL
>
> Since when did some Israeli editor have an inside line to Middle East
> terrorists? You think Islamic terrorists would willing talk to some
> Israeli editor what's really going on in their minds?

Are you saying he made up the quotes?

> Why don't you address Howard Kveck earlier point that OBL wanted Bush
> to win in 2004, and release a tape right before the 2004 election?

Because it was opinion, not fact. HTH

 

[damyth]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> damyth wrote:
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> >> Howard Kveck wrote:
> >>> In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists
> >>>> and they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground),
> >>>> then why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
> >>>
> >>> Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released
> >>> tapes before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From
> >>> Ron Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":
> >>
> >> Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops
> >> support" thread -- using OLD information.
> >>
> >> That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article
> >> describing the CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...
> >>
> >> http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
> >>
> >> Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL
> >
> > Since when did some Israeli editor have an inside line to Middle East
> > terrorists? You think Islamic terrorists would willing talk to some
> > Israeli editor what's really going on in their minds?
>
> Are you saying he made up the quotes?

Since when do members of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades willing talk to an
Israeli editor? Even if the quotes are real, AAMB, Hamas, and Islamic
Jihad have very different aims than al-Qaeda. The former are dedicated
to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Al-Qaeda has different goals.
Generalizing view of to anti-Israel organizations to that of all
Islamic terrorists is a stretch.

I'll also remind you that this election this Tuesday is not about
Israel's interests, it is about what's in the best interests of the
United States.

As far as I'm concerned Israel can march into hell together with the
Palestinians. You sound like a shill for the Israel lobby.

>
> > Why don't you address Howard Kveck earlier point that OBL wanted Bush
> > to win in 2004, and release a tape right before the 2004 election?
>
> Because it was opinion, not fact. HTH

Right. It is an "opinion" that OBL said he prefers Bush to be in
power, and that he released a tape on the eve of the 2004 election?

 

[Ted P.]

Donald Munro wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> The army teaches self-discipline. The army is a route
>>>> to the mainstream, and there is nothing wrong with the
>>>> mainstream.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Damn, I thought I'd make it to the mainstream through rbr.
>
> Michael Press wrote:
>> No, rbr teaches abuse.
>
> I thought self abuse was a pain until I tried Smirnoff.
>
>
Under the spreading chestnut tree
The village idiot sat
Amusing himself
By abusing himself
And catching it in his hat.
--

Ted P.
Don't forget to take out the trash

 

[Ted P.]

Donald Munro wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> The army teaches self-discipline. The army is a route
>>>> to the mainstream, and there is nothing wrong with the
>>>> mainstream.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Damn, I thought I'd make it to the mainstream through rbr.
>
> Michael Press wrote:
>> No, rbr teaches abuse.
>
> I thought self abuse was a pain until I tried Smirnoff.
>
>
Under the spreading chestnut tree
The village idiot sat
Amusing himself
By abusing himself
And catching it in his hat.
--

Ted P.
Don't forget to take out the trash

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:13:08 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Howard Kveck wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
>>>
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-03-bus
>>> h-troops_x.htm
>>
>> So what do you suppose they think *now*, Bill? That poll is at
>> least two years old.
>
>Off-year election, of course, but I bet you they favor Bush over Kerry NOW
>by an even higher margin than the 84-16 it ended up being in '04. (And that
>was when Dems were still giving lip service to supporting the war in
>Afghanistan, BTW; that stopped about a nanosecond after Kerry lost.)


Kerry is bad so the war is good? Liberals are bad so the war is good?
Michael Moore is bad so Bush is good?


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[damyth]

di wrote:
> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:23:37 -0600, "di" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>> Sorni,
> >>>
> >>> If these guys can see through Bushco, how come you can't?
> >>>
> >>> http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TSR-SullivanHitchens.wmv
> >>>
> >>> Better late than never.
> >>Wow, from CNN, that must really be unbiased
> >
> > Question for Di: Do you think the war in Iraq is going well, or can
> > ever go well?
> >
> > Oh yeah, I forgot -- reality has a liberal bias....
> > --
> > JT
>
> I don't think it's going as well as it could, but It's not going as bad as
> you are duped into believing, it depends who you talk to if it's going well
> or not. Talk to the soldiers that have been there, it's going pretty well,
> listen to the American Media, it's a disaster. Turn off NBC, ABC, CBS,
> CNN, & New York Times, talk to people, you just may be surprised.

You are so freaking out of touch with reality it's not even funny. The
war in Iraq is going so swimmingly well:

"'Army Times' calls for Rumsfeld to Quit:

The Military Times Media Group, which publishes the influential Army
Times and other military periodicals, is calling for Defense Secretary
Donald Rumsfeld to resign. In a coming editorial, the papers say
active-duty military officers have misgivings about war planning in
Iraq."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6435503

This is the SECOND time that the Army Times has called for Rumsfeld's
resignation. The first time was after Abu Ghraib.

 

[ST]

On 11/4/06 8:13 AM, in article [email protected],
"Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
>>>
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-03-b
>>> us
>>> h-troops_x.htm
>>
>> So what do you suppose they think *now*, Bill? That poll is at
>> least two years old.
>
> Off-year election, of course, but I bet you they favor Bush over Kerry NOW
> by an even higher margin than the 84-16 it ended up being in '04. (And that
> was when Dems were still giving lip service to supporting the war in
> Afghanistan, BTW; that stopped about a nanosecond after Kerry lost.)
>
>

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,118112,00.html

Record Setting Pace for Re-Enlistment

 

[ST]

On 11/4/06 9:10 AM, in article
[email protected], "damyth"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>> Howard Kveck wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists and
>>>> they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground), then
>>>> why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
>>>
>>> Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released tapes
>>> before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From Ron
>>> Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":
>>
>> Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops support"
>> thread -- using OLD information.
>>
>> That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article describing the
>> CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...
>>
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
>>
>> Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL
>
> Since when did some Israeli editor have an inside line to Middle East
> terrorists? You think Islamic terrorists would willing talk to some
> Israeli editor what's really going on in their minds?
>

What a jackass.....

Aaron Klein is WorldNetDaily's Jerusalem bureau chief, whose past interview
subjects have included Yasser Arafat, Ehud Barak, Mahmoud al-Zahar and
leaders of the Taliban.

 

[damyth]

ST wrote:
> On 11/4/06 9:10 AM, in article
> [email protected], "damyth"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> >> Howard Kveck wrote:
> >>> In article <[email protected]>, "Bill Sornson"
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ask yourself this, Frank. If Bush is emboldening the terrorists and
> >>>> they're winning (hearts and minds as well as on the ground), then
> >>>> why do they ALL want the Democrats to take power here?
> >>>
> >>> Funny, the CIA is on record as saying that bin Laden released tapes
> >>> before the '04 election because he wanted Bush to win. From Ron
> >>> Suskind's book "The Price of Loyalty":
> >>
> >> Ha! You just did what you accused me of in the "who do the troops support"
> >> thread -- using OLD information.
> >>
> >> That must be why you DELETED the link to a CURRENT article describing the
> >> CURRENT situation! Here, I'll go put it back...
> >>
> >> http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
> >>
> >> Why don't you READ it this time?!? LOL
> >
> > Since when did some Israeli editor have an inside line to Middle East
> > terrorists? You think Islamic terrorists would willing talk to some
> > Israeli editor what's really going on in their minds?
> >
>
> What a jackass.....
>
> Aaron Klein is WorldNetDaily's Jerusalem bureau chief, whose past interview
> subjects have included Yasser Arafat, Ehud Barak, Mahmoud al-Zahar and
> leaders of the Taliban.

So? Your point is? So Barak is a terrorist now too? Has Aaron
interviewed any members of al-Queda _recently_?

I am well aware who Aaron Klien is. He has consistently championed
causes of militant Israeli settlers in the West Bank and Gaza. Why
should anyone in the United States give a damn what he thinks,
considering he reports on issues mainly of interest to Israel??
Furthermore, Sornson/WND tried to portray the opinions of a few as
representative of _all_ Islamic terrorists; at least the headline gives
that impression. Why should anyone buy in to such sensationalism?

I guess I don't understand why people conflate Israel's interests as US
interests. The WND headline states: "Withdrawal from Iraq would
embolden jihadists to destroy Israel, America." Get it straight,
people. The United States is not Israel, and no one should ever
confuse the two.

A few years ago people in the United States got ****** off when the
Guardian embarked on Operation Clark County, a letter writing campaign
"guiding" the citizens of OH how to vote. Why should we be influenced
now by how Israelis or Islamic terrorists tell us how to vote?