Helmets

[Joel]

Dan B. wrote:
> On Feb 9, 7:23 am, Buck <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> <snip>
>> I have a bar mounted mirror on the trike but have never tried a helmet
>> mounted one,
>> wouldn't it cause a problem in an accident with snagging or applied localised
>> pressure to a point on the helmet?
>>
> <snip>
> Possible, if unlikely, IMO. I'll take that potential increased risk,
> in exchange for the benefit of being able to better perceive my
> surroundings and (hopefully) avoid the accident in the first place.
>
> Best,
>
> Dan
>
I have the two bar end mirrors on the trike and prefer the wider view,
plus I don't think I would function well with a helmet mounted mirror.
What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
built into there helmet.

 

[Peter Clinch]

Joel wrote:

> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
> built into there helmet.

Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.

I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
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[Joel]

Peter Clinch wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>> built into there helmet.
>
> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
> pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>
> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
> was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
> move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
> better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
> angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
>
> Pete.
I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

 

[gotbent]

"Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Peter Clinch wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>
>>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>>> built into there helmet.
>>
>> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for pedal
>> cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>>
>> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It was
>> okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to move
>> my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no better than
>> a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an angle on a
>> 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
>>
>> Pete.
> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
> type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
> would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount mirror,
> but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.

Battery life problems...going rear blind when the battery dies. Cost! LCD
not so good in bright light. Weight! If a system was developed with a CCD
and LCD, there would be no absolute reason to mount the LCD on the helmet,
and on a helmet focus distance would probably be a big issue, especially
amongst us presbyopic old codgers. With a mirror the focus isn't at the
mirror, but rather at the object (I could be wrong here...it's been a long
time since high school phyisics). With a LCD the focus is at the surface of
the display, and unless you had special lenses ground where the near vision
was at the top, you wouldn't be able to focus on the display. Moving the
display to a more remote position would require a larger display and more
power and then we get back to the bright ambient light display problems.



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[Peter Clinch]

Joel wrote:

> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
> type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
> would be the ultimate.

Nah... head-up display in your radar-equipped velomobile ;-)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Joel]

gotbent wrote:
> "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>>>> built into there helmet.
>>> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for pedal
>>> cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>>>
>>> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It was
>>> okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to move
>>> my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no better than
>>> a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an angle on a
>>> 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
>>>
>>> Pete.
>> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
>> type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
>> would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount mirror,
>> but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.
>
> Battery life problems...going rear blind when the battery dies. Cost! LCD
> not so good in bright light. Weight! If a system was developed with a CCD
> and LCD, there would be no absolute reason to mount the LCD on the helmet,
> and on a helmet focus distance would probably be a big issue, especially
> amongst us presbyopic old codgers. With a mirror the focus isn't at the
> mirror, but rather at the object (I could be wrong here...it's been a long
> time since high school phyisics). With a LCD the focus is at the surface of
> the display, and unless you had special lenses ground where the near vision
> was at the top, you wouldn't be able to focus on the display. Moving the
> display to a more remote position would require a larger display and more
> power and then we get back to the bright ambient light display problems.
>
>
>
The LCD system I saw gives you the ability to see picture as if it was
on a 50" TV at 7.5' from screen. I had a expermental one for a portable
wrist mount computer, which I field tested, and it worked fine, but the
computer was crashing all the time. It was designed for the military as
a way for a spotter to remain hiden, but still get the view. I
simplified it, but you get the point. The camera also had an extreme
wide angle view which was adjustable. The battery life for the LCD was
15 hours, and the camera was only 6 hrs. When I tested it the supply was
Nicad, but with todays technology for batteries I would think the life
would be extended.

 

[Dan B.]

On Feb 9, 11:33 am, Peter Clinch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joel wrote:
> > I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
> > type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
> > would be the ultimate.
>
> Nah... head-up display in your radar-equipped velomobile ;-)
>
> Pete.
> --
> Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
> Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
> Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
> net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

I'd vote for having a stoker on a back-to-back tandem as the ultimate
in rear vision. Unless they're asleep, or their vocal cords have been
paralyzed by fear, it's hard to do better for monitoring the world
behind you.

Dan

 

[Buck]

On 2007-02-09 16:03:34 +0000, "gotbent" <[email protected]> said:

>
> "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>>>> built into there helmet.
>>>
>>> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
>>> pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>>>
>>> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
>>> was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
>>> move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
>>> better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
>>> angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
>>>
>>> Pete.
>> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
>> type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
>> would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
>> mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.
>
> Battery life problems...

Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine
mounted in the vents of your helmet.


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[John Knez]

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Never occurred to me to use one when I was commuting on an upright so
> perhaps it's just exposure.
>
> Zebee

I didn't start using a mirror on a bike until I started riding a bent.
I found that on an upright it was easier to quickly twist my body and
look behind me. On my bent I find that very difficult to do. I ride in
a fairly reclined position, so the same sort of maneuver I did on an
upright tends to produce a view of the ground. I've found I get a
better view of the rear with a mirror on a recumbent than I did twisting
and looking back on the upright. I didn't know what I was missing when I
rode an upright, and if I was to start riding an upright again, I would
undoubtedly get a mirror for it.

---
John Knez

 

[Joel]

Buck wrote:
> On 2007-02-09 16:03:34 +0000, "gotbent" <[email protected]> said:
>
>>
>> "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>>>>> built into there helmet.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
>>>> pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>>>>
>>>> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid).
>>>> It was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found
>>>> having to move my head to the correct angle to get the right view
>>>> made it no better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could
>>>> well be at an angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers
>>>> assumed.
>>>>
>>>> Pete.
>>> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as
>>> the type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing
>>> rear would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet
>>> mount mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.
>>
>> Battery life problems...
>
> Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine mounted
> in the vents of your helmet.
>
>
Now how about add a little Infra Red technology for not riding?

 

[Buck]

On 2007-02-10 13:59:06 +0000, Joel <joelw135atcomcast.net> said:

> Buck wrote:
>> On 2007-02-09 16:03:34 +0000, "gotbent" <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Joel" <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What ever happened to the company that made a periscope type system
>>>>>> built into there helmet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at their site (reevu.com) I'd say they've given up hats for
>>>>> pedal cyclists in favour of motorcyclists.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did try a Reevu briefly (it was back when I always wore a lid). It
>>>>> was okay... but not better than that and in practice I found having to
>>>>> move my head to the correct angle to get the right view made it no
>>>>> better than a bar mirror, and in practice your head could well be at an
>>>>> angle on a 'bent other than that which the designers assumed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete.
>>>> I think they have a good idea, but I think a small video monitor as the
>>>> type sold for miniature computers and a CCD helmet camera facing rear
>>>> would be the ultimate. The miniature LCD hangs like a helmet mount
>>>> mirror, but gives you the view of a full screen monitor.
>>>
>>> Battery life problems...
>>
>> Power it from a lithium cell, charged by a miniture wind turbine
>> mounted in the vents of your helmet.
>>
>>
> Now how about add a little Infra Red technology for not riding?

Let's just go all the way and integrate a particle beam generator to
deal with errant cagers.
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