pasta

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a day
....and I have not any propblem!
I can tell that in Italy... people eat pasta every day and don't have any
problem! so why are you convince the carb get fat? Mine is just curiosity!
:-)
I apologize for my English...in fact I'm Italian girl.
Bye
Blueberry

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Blueberry said:

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a day
...and I have not any propblem!
I can tell that in Italy... people eat pasta every day and don't have any
problem! so why are you convince the carb get fat? Mine is just curiosity!
:-)
I apologize for my English...in fact I'm Italian girl.
Bye
Blueberry

I'd suggest you do some googling on the term "insulin resistance".

I'm also betting you don't have a car and walk or bike everywhere. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Quoting Blueberry:

Quoted message said:

Sorry I hope I've not offended you... maybe I was too much direct!
But speaking English is not *natural* for me ... so please be patience.

I'm not offended in the slightest and don't have any problems with
directness (in fact, I prefer it). However, your question was like,
say, going into a vegan newsgroup and asking "why so obsessed with not
eating or using animal products? I eat meat everyday!". It comes off
as a bit trollish and boorish, whether that was your intent or not.
Just so you know.

I'd still recommend that you read the FAQ first (it's posted daily),
-then- ask questions.

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Blueberry said:

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a

day

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

...and I have not any propblem!

Quoted message said:

I'd suggest you do some googling on the term "insulin resistance".

I'm also betting you don't have a car and walk or bike everywhere. ;-)

well , I live in a little town...so generally I don't use the car...this is
true. But I swear I'm not a lover of sport, and for this I'm really lazy.
Some time I've problems with my weight...but only when I'm stressed and
I keep to eat during the day, or I eat bad (in messy way). Only one thing I
avoid to do eating pasta for dinner! better for lunch or eating pasta and
bread together. Anyway I'll follow your advise and I'll search about
"insulin resistance".
Blueberry

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Quoted message said:

Quoting Blueberry:

Quoted message said:

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a day
...and I have not any propblem!

That's nice. Good for you.

Here's a gold star.

Quoted message said:

I can tell that in Italy... people eat pasta every day and don't have any
problem! so why are you convince the carb get fat? Mine is just

curiosity!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

:-)
I apologize for my English...in fact I'm Italian girl.

If you truly want to know, read the FAQ.

Sorry I hope I've not offended you... maybe I was too much direct!
But speaking English is not *natural* for me ... so please be patience.
Blueberry

Blueberry said:

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a day
...and I have not any propblem!
I can tell that in Italy... people eat pasta every day and don't have any
problem! so why are you convince the carb get fat? Mine is just curiosity!
:-)
I apologize for my English...in fact I'm Italian girl.
Bye
Blueberry

It is often claimed that 25% of people have no problems at all digesting
carbohydrates in large quantities.

Similarly, 25% of the people are said to have great sensitivity to
ingenstion of carbohydrates turning into stored fat.

If you are one of the lucky 25% with no problems, then you can't
effectively understand why people are concerned with carbohydrates.

It is a mistake to think that everyone else is just like you.

To understand DIET, you need to look beyond yourself...... because there
are evidently large differences in how people respond to the same food,
drink, or drugs.

By the time the Italian girls are 40 years old, can you see any extra weight
on them?

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why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a day
...and I have not any propblem!
I can tell that in Italy... people eat pasta every day and don't have any
problem! so why are you convince the carb get fat? Mine is just

curiosity!

Quoted message said:

:-)
I apologize for my English...in fact I'm Italian girl.
Bye
Blueberry

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Blueberry said:

why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a

day

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

...and I have not any propblem!

Quoted message said:

I'd suggest you do some googling on the term "insulin resistance".

I'm also betting you don't have a car and walk or bike everywhere. ;-)

well , I live in a little town...so generally I don't use the car...this
is
true. But I swear I'm not a lover of sport, and for this I'm really lazy.
Some time I've problems with my weight...but only when I'm stressed and
I keep to eat during the day, or I eat bad (in messy way). Only one thing
I
avoid to do eating pasta for dinner! better for lunch or eating pasta and
bread together. Anyway I'll follow your advise and I'll search about
"insulin resistance".
Blueberry

I don't know how old you are, but you referred to yourself as a "girl" -- so
that may have something to do with it. I also used to eat a lot of pasta
and other carbs. I even fell for the high-carb "diet" a few years ago when
I wanted to lose weight, and there were some diet books that recommended
low-fat high-carb diets for weight loss. It didn't work, of course! Much
more important to my health, I eventually was diagnosed with diabetes (a
little more than a year ago). This time, I did some research and also
talked to a number of friends with diabetes. I didn't go true low-carb, but
I did adopt the South Beach diet and (in addition) completely eliminated
pasta, rice, potatoes, and added sugar. The result is that I have lost a
substantial amount of weight without ever being hungry (lots and lots of
veggies, moderate amounts of fruit, some cheese and nuts, low-fat meat,
etc.) *and* my sugar is now under control. I have not had to take
medication for diabetes for several months, and my readings have been
consistently within the normal range (hovering around 100).

MaryL

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Blueberry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a

day

Quoted message said:

> ...and I have not any propblem!

Quoted message said:

I'd suggest you do some googling on the term "insulin resistance".

I'm also betting you don't have a car and walk or bike everywhere. ;-)

well , I live in a little town...so generally I don't use the car...this
is
true. But I swear I'm not a lover of sport, and for this I'm really lazy.
Some time I've problems with my weight...but only when I'm stressed and
I keep to eat during the day, or I eat bad (in messy way). Only one thing
I
avoid to do eating pasta for dinner! better for lunch or eating pasta and
bread together. Anyway I'll follow your advise and I'll search about
"insulin resistance".
Blueberry

I don't know how old you are, but you referred to yourself as a "girl" --
so that may have something to do with it. I also used to eat a lot of
pasta and other carbs. I even fell for the high-carb "diet" a few years
ago when I wanted to lose weight, and there were some diet books that
recommended low-fat high-carb diets for weight loss. It didn't work, of
course! Much more important to my health, I eventually was diagnosed with
diabetes (a little more than a year ago). This time, I did some research
and also talked to a number of friends with diabetes. I didn't go true
low-carb, but I did adopt the South Beach diet and (in addition)
completely eliminated pasta, rice, potatoes, and added sugar. The result
is that I have lost a substantial amount of weight without ever being
hungry (lots and lots of veggies, moderate amounts of fruit, some cheese
and nuts, low-fat meat, etc.) *and* my sugar is now under control. I have
not had to take medication for diabetes for several months, and my
readings have been consistently within the normal range (hovering around
100).

MaryL

Addendum to my comments: I did experiment a bit when I first started to
reduce the amount of carbs in my diet. I found that my BG would spike if I
ate even a small amount of pasta or bread. So, I completely eliminated them
and the results have been good.

MaryL

Quoting Blueberry:

Quoted message said:

My purpose weren't offende no one!

Really, don't worry about it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'd still recommend that you read the FAQ first (it's posted daily),
-then- ask questions.

I'm reading... right now, but honestly I have a question ...this kind of
diet is it something that you follow for all of your life or only for losing
your weight? otherwise after you finished the diet what do you eat? I mean
you cancel carb from your diet forever?

The premise of most of the popular plans* is that one eliminates quite
a few carbohydrates in the beginning and gradually adds some back as
one progresses.

* Atkins, Protein Power, South Beach

It is also important to know that controlled carb (low carb) != no
carbs at all.

For those that benefit from carb restriction, yes, it is something
that is best followed to some extent for the rest of one's life.

As to what I eat, the emphasis of my diet is lots of vegetables and
lean meats. I do pay some attention to fat intake (many here don't),
but am not obsessive about it. If I want a steak, I have a steak.
Most of the time though, I eat a lot of chicken, seafood, and turkey.

Quoted message said:

I find this diet a little *unnatural* for the body, (for example you have to
take suplements I read "multivitamin and perhaps calcium" ..or other things
for have the fibre, if I'm not wrong) ... but of course is only
my opinion!

It can cause an electrolyte imbalance in some.

Quoted message said:

I understand that this kind of diet means to change the metabolism, is not
dangerous? or anyway a big stress for the body?

Not really. Calories still matter. It was/is rather unfortunate that
Atkins downplayed the importance of caloric restriction in his
writings.

MaryL said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Blueberry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>why so obsessed about carb? :-/ I eat pasta every day at least ONCE a

day

Quoted message said:

>...and I have not any propblem!

Quoted message said:

I'd suggest you do some googling on the term "insulin resistance".

I'm also betting you don't have a car and walk or bike everywhere. ;-)

well , I live in a little town...so generally I don't use the car...this
is
true. But I swear I'm not a lover of sport, and for this I'm really lazy.
Some time I've problems with my weight...but only when I'm stressed and
I keep to eat during the day, or I eat bad (in messy way). Only one thing
I
avoid to do eating pasta for dinner! better for lunch or eating pasta and
bread together. Anyway I'll follow your advise and I'll search about
"insulin resistance".
Blueberry

I don't know how old you are, but you referred to yourself as a "girl" -- so
that may have something to do with it. I also used to eat a lot of pasta
and other carbs. I even fell for the high-carb "diet" a few years ago when
I wanted to lose weight, and there were some diet books that recommended
low-fat high-carb diets for weight loss. It didn't work, of course! Much
more important to my health, I eventually was diagnosed with diabetes (a
little more than a year ago). This time, I did some research and also
talked to a number of friends with diabetes. I didn't go true low-carb, but
I did adopt the South Beach diet and (in addition) completely eliminated
pasta, rice, potatoes, and added sugar. The result is that I have lost a
substantial amount of weight without ever being hungry (lots and lots of
veggies, moderate amounts of fruit, some cheese and nuts, low-fat meat,
etc.) *and* my sugar is now under control. I have not had to take
medication for diabetes for several months, and my readings have been
consistently within the normal range (hovering around 100).

Nice job, Mary.

I was also wondering how old the OP was. I had no problems with carbs,
either, until I hit 35 and had a baby, gaining a lot of weight and never
getting it off.

Pasta, bread, rice, etc., etc., didn't seem to add to it after that, but
I wasn't losing it that way either. :-)

--
July Goals: BG readings in normal range; Not hungry, don't eat
Weight: 18 Pounds Gone (6 of them twice) 06/12/2005
Measurements: 8 inches gone 06/19/2005
Cholesterol: 145
FBG: < 100 since 07/01/2005 A1c 6.5

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Quoted message said:

Quoting Blueberry:

Quoted message said:

Sorry I hope I've not offended you... maybe I was too much direct!
But speaking English is not *natural* for me ... so please be patience.

I'm not offended in the slightest and don't have any problems with
directness (in fact, I prefer it). However, your question was like,
say, going into a vegan newsgroup and asking "why so obsessed with not
eating or using animal products? I eat meat everyday!". It comes off
as a bit trollish and boorish, whether that was your intent or not.
Just so you know.

you are right! I'm sorry
I was only surprise! I didn't know exist this kind of diets!
I simply eat like they have teached me! and I've never thought about pasta
like something that get fat.
My purpose weren't offende no one!

Quoted message said:

I'd still recommend that you read the FAQ first (it's posted daily),
-then- ask questions.

I'm reading... right now, but honestly I have a question ...this kind of
diet is it something that you follow for all of your life or only for losing
your weight? otherwise after you finished the diet what do you eat? I mean
you cancel carb from your diet forever?
I find this diet a little *unnatural* for the body, (for example you have to
take suplements I read "multivitamin and perhaps calcium" ..or other things
for have the fibre, if I'm not wrong) ... but of course is only
my opinion!
I understand that this kind of diet means to change the metabolism, is not
dangerous? or anyway a big stress for the body?

Blueberry

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I don't know how old you are, but you referred to yourself as a "girl" --

so

Quoted message said:

that may have something to do with it.

I'm 33! :-)

I also used to eat a lot of pasta

Quoted message said:

and other carbs. I even fell for the high-carb "diet" a few years ago

when

Quoted message said:

I wanted to lose weight, and there were some diet books that recommended
low-fat high-carb diets for weight loss. It didn't work, of course! Much
more important to my health, I eventually was diagnosed with diabetes (a
little more than a year ago). This time, I did some research and also
talked to a number of friends with diabetes. I didn't go true low-carb,

but

Quoted message said:

I did adopt the South Beach diet and (in addition) completely eliminated
pasta, rice, potatoes, and added sugar.

Oh well..if you are talking about diabetes...it's another thing! of course
if you have this kind of problem...you don't have to eat pasta or bread...
or this kind of food!
Who have this kind of problem don't eat them neither here! :-)
Blueberry

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By the time the Italian girls are 40 years old, can you see any extra

weight

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on them?

Some ladys get fat with menopause... but not extra weight!!! Sometime they
are over weight.
Actually we have problems only with the children!! Because they are eating
much junkfood! And this is a BIG problem! they don't want eat vegetables but
snack!!! :-((( and if you don't see old lady with problem of weight...you
can see children! But this a very recent problem!
Blueberry

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I don't know how old you are, but you referred to yourself as a "girl" --

so

Quoted message said:

that may have something to do with it.

I'm 33! :-)

I also used to eat a lot of pasta

Quoted message said:

and other carbs. I even fell for the high-carb "diet" a few years ago

when

Quoted message said:

I wanted to lose weight, and there were some diet books that recommended
low-fat high-carb diets for weight loss. It didn't work, of course!
Much
more important to my health, I eventually was diagnosed with diabetes (a
little more than a year ago). This time, I did some research and also
talked to a number of friends with diabetes. I didn't go true low-carb,

but

Quoted message said:

I did adopt the South Beach diet and (in addition) completely eliminated
pasta, rice, potatoes, and added sugar.

Oh well..if you are talking about diabetes...it's another thing! of course
if you have this kind of problem...you don't have to eat pasta or bread...
or this kind of food!
Who have this kind of problem don't eat them neither here! :-)
Blueberry

I wasn't diagnosed until a year ago (despite annual FBG testing), but I am
convinced that I have had diabetes or at least insulin resistance for 10
years. I can't claim that pasta, flour, etc. necessarily "causes" diabetes,
but I do think there is a relationship. I might never have had that problem
if I had learned more about carbs much earlier in my life

MaryL

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It is often claimed that 25% of people have no problems at all digesting

carbohydrates in large quantities.

Quoted message said:

Similarly, 25% of the people are said to have great sensitivity to

ingenstion of carbohydrates turning into stored fat.

Quoted message said:

If you are one of the lucky 25% with no problems, then you can't
effectively understand why people are concerned with carbohydrates.

I don't think so...otherwise all of this 25% are Italian people!
We usually eat pasta every day! And every country have hundreds of kinds of
bread!!! We are lover of bread! :-)
But good rule is if you eat pasta you don't eat bread or potatoes...or
rice! so it works for other kind of food... if you
eat cheese you don't eat meat or eggs or something that contains proteins!
we eat 80g of pasta (for lunch for example) and nothing else, then for
dinner we eat the main course (but never pasta and main course !)

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It is a mistake to think that everyone else is just like you.

If some one have a intollerance for a kind of food, it's right avoid
it ...but I think is dangerous follow a so extreme diet only because you are
a little bit over weight. If it's a healthy problem... I don't speak any
more!

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To understand DIET, you need to look beyond yourself...... because there
are evidently large differences in how people respond to the same food,
drink, or drugs.

I think (but it's only my opinion) that the better thing is eating a little
of all of kind of food, to cover all of necessity.
Blueberry

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Oh well..if you are talking about diabetes...it's another thing! of

course

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

if you have this kind of problem...you don't have to eat pasta or

bread...

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Quoted message said:

or this kind of food!
Who have this kind of problem don't eat them neither here! :-)
Blueberry

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I wasn't diagnosed until a year ago (despite annual FBG testing), but I am
convinced that I have had diabetes or at least insulin resistance for 10
years. I can't claim that pasta, flour, etc. necessarily "causes"

diabetes,

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but I do think there is a relationship. I might never have had that

problem

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if I had learned more about carbs much earlier in my life

If were in this way...how many people here in Italy would be sick!
Blueberry

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I don't think so...otherwise all of this 25% are Italian people!
We usually eat pasta every day! And every country have hundreds of kinds
of
bread!!! We are lover of bread! :-)

Well, Italy has the fastest growing rate of obesity and diabetes in Europe.
Likely not because of the Mediterranean diet, but because of the highly
processed carbs that come with the junk food/pizza diet.

Nicky.

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1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/76/72Kg

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I don't think so...otherwise all of this 25% are Italian people!
We usually eat pasta every day! And every country have hundreds of kinds
of
bread!!! We are lover of bread! :-)

Well, Italy has the fastest growing rate of obesity and diabetes in

Europe.

O__° What? I swear ...but when I go around I don't see no one with obesity
problem. One stupid example? if you want buy some clothes, the biggest size
that you can find, in normal shops, is 12 (Italian size is 46) If you have
problem with your
size and you can't wear the 12 anymore... you have to go in shops for extra
size! And they are very rare shops! I think is a index of the size of the
people! Right?

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Likely not because of the Mediterranean diet, but because of the highly
processed carbs that come with the junk food/pizza diet.

:-D are you kidding? how many years... centuries we are eating like that!
Pasta pizza we sholud be "rolling balls" :-D
Look...I can say many things (but I have to speak english, and it's
difficult fo me ... So I don't :-D) ...and you can always don't belive me
.... so you should look with your own eyes.

Blueberry