Has anyone tried the Bigha?



Larry Varney wrote:

> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>
>> Your inability to tell the truth make it clear that nothing you say
>> can be taken at face value. We will have to looks at bentrideronline
>> which you edit, as an extension of your lies. We can't trust it's
>> contents anymore then we can trust you to tell the truth. It is
>> transparently obvious to everyone that your income from
>> bentrideronline derives from your sponsors. No sponsors, no income.
>> Therefore sponsors must be defended at all costs. I fail to see any
>> other reason for this vendetta against an obvious observation that the
>> Bigha, one of your paid sponsors, costs too much. Follow the money.
>>
>> Lorenzo L. Love
>
>
> What have I lied about, Lorenzo? You said that BiGHA sponsors me. It
> doesn't. I agreed that BiGHA has advertisements on the magazine. Which
> of those are lies? They advertise on the magazine, but they do not
> sponsor me. And I see that you STILL make that claim, that they are on
> eof MY "paid sponsors".
> And this is one issue that has been beat on for weeks, and you can't
> seem to understand it - I have never defended BiGHA the company, nor
> BiGHA the bike. Never! Never have I written anything good about either!
> Never!
> That's it for me, Love. Either you're congentially unable to
> understand such a simple concept, or you're being deliberately obtuse.
> Which is it, Love? Are you stupid or just a royal pain? Either way, It
> serves little purpose to keep telling you the same thing, over and over.
>

Why does he spend so much time and effort attacking anyone who makes the
reasonable criticism of the Bigha that $3000.00 is far too much for a 52
pound comfort bike? Follow the money. Bigha pays bentrideronline,
bentrideronline on line pays Varney. Varney is not just a writer for
bentrideronline, but an editor. Bentrideronline does not have
subscription fees, their income (except for a real pathetic begging
page) derives entirely from advertiser fees. They can't afford to say
anything bad about their paid sponsors. They must protect their income
or go out of business. Follow the money. If he lies about this, what
else does he lie about? Consider that if you read bentrideronline.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"If you do not tell the truth about yourself you cannot tell it about
other people."
Virginia Woolf (1882-1941).
 
Edward Dolan wrote:

[Nothing]

Hey Ed, type something before hitting send, you dolt!

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> > He meant by sponsor that you were being paid by the magazine for your
> > review. But it is ever the way of small minds to attach to details and
make
> > a big issue out of nothing. I occasionally like to set up straw men too,
but
> > I try not to make a habit of it.
> >
> >
>
> I'll know who to go to from now on, when I have questions about what
> Lorenzo says, especially if what he said seems pretty stupid. But that
> is the way of details, I suppose.
> Anyway, I have not been making a "big issue" out of any of this - who
> has been constantly ranting and raving about this BiGHA, and now my
> being "sponsored" by them? Certainly not me. But I do agree with you -
> his behavior does indicate a small mind.

I now learn from another one of Lorenzo's posts that you are an EDITOR of
your magazine. True or false? You do not merely just submit articles as a
writer. Now my estimate of you is in the cellar. You do not even take
responsibility for your magazine even though you are an editor of it. I will
let the readers of ARBR draw their own conclusions about you and your
magazine, but I will stay as far away as I can get from it. Your credibility
with me is now zip!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> [Nothing]
>
> Hey Ed, type something before hitting send, you dolt!

I do this occasionally to keep you are your toes and to give you something
to post about.

But I am waiting for your response to Freewheeling (Scott) on another
current thread. Nothing to say? I thought so. It is getting harder and
harder to defend liberalism these days isn't it, let alone Marxism and
Communism. I note that only nut cases like Michael Moore (who is a big fat
treasonous pig without a brain) want to even be associated with the term
liberalism anymore. But his type (Al Gore too) are so out of it, that I
simply refer to them as Bush Haters and let it go at that. I like to be
accurate above all else.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>He meant by sponsor that you were being paid by the magazine for your
>>>review. But it is ever the way of small minds to attach to details and
>
> make
>
>>>a big issue out of nothing. I occasionally like to set up straw men too,
>
> but
>
>>>I try not to make a habit of it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'll know who to go to from now on, when I have questions about what
>>Lorenzo says, especially if what he said seems pretty stupid. But that
>>is the way of details, I suppose.
>> Anyway, I have not been making a "big issue" out of any of this - who
>>has been constantly ranting and raving about this BiGHA, and now my
>>being "sponsored" by them? Certainly not me. But I do agree with you -
>>his behavior does indicate a small mind.
>
>
> I now learn from another one of Lorenzo's posts that you are an EDITOR of
> your magazine. True or false? You do not merely just submit articles as a
> writer. Now my estimate of you is in the cellar. You do not even take
> responsibility for your magazine even though you are an editor of it. I will
> let the readers of ARBR draw their own conclusions about you and your
> magazine, but I will stay as far away as I can get from it. Your credibility
> with me is now zip!
>

What are you talking about? In what way do I "not even take
responsibility for my magazine"? Of course, we see that you are
continuing the tradition of your friend, claiming that it's MY magazine
- it's not.
And now you're all puffed up, and you're going to "stay as far away
from it" as you can. There's nothing new there, Dolan - you didn't read
it before, did you? Regardless, I do think it's a wise decision on your
part to continue not reading it.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
 
"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Edward Dolan wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>>He meant by sponsor that you were being paid by the magazine for your
> >>>review. But it is ever the way of small minds to attach to details and
> >
> > make
> >
> >>>a big issue out of nothing. I occasionally like to set up straw men
too,
> >
> > but
> >
> >>>I try not to make a habit of it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'll know who to go to from now on, when I have questions about what
> >>Lorenzo says, especially if what he said seems pretty stupid. But that
> >>is the way of details, I suppose.
> >> Anyway, I have not been making a "big issue" out of any of this - who
> >>has been constantly ranting and raving about this BiGHA, and now my
> >>being "sponsored" by them? Certainly not me. But I do agree with you -
> >>his behavior does indicate a small mind.
> >
> >
> > I now learn from another one of Lorenzo's posts that you are an EDITOR
of
> > your magazine. True or false? You do not merely just submit articles as
a
> > writer. Now my estimate of you is in the cellar. You do not even take
> > responsibility for your magazine even though you are an editor of it. I
will
> > let the readers of ARBR draw their own conclusions about you and your
> > magazine, but I will stay as far away as I can get from it. Your
credibility
> > with me is now zip!
> >
>
> What are you talking about? In what way do I "not even take
> responsibility for my magazine"? Of course, we see that you are
> continuing the tradition of your friend, claiming that it's MY magazine
> - it's not.
> And now you're all puffed up, and you're going to "stay as far away
> from it" as you can. There's nothing new there, Dolan - you didn't read
> it before, did you? Regardless, I do think it's a wise decision on your
> part to continue not reading it.

You were leaving the impression that you were merely a writer who was
submitting articles to the magazine. Now instead we learn that you are one
of the editors. Big difference! I take it that Mr. Ball is the publisher and
owner, but it is impossible to get any useful information out of you about
your relationship to the magazine of which you are an editor. You have had
plenty of opportunity on this thread to explain yourself, but instead
Lorenzo had to drag it out of you inch by inch. It strikes me that you are
not particularly fond of your association with the magazine. If I were Mr.
Ball, I would fire you for not defending the magazine better.

I will never have to read that magazine of which you are an editor as long
as RCN is around, of that I can assure you!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>He meant by sponsor that you were being paid by the magazine for your
>>>>>review. But it is ever the way of small minds to attach to details and
>>>
>>>make
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a big issue out of nothing. I occasionally like to set up straw men
>
> too,
>
>>>but
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I try not to make a habit of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll know who to go to from now on, when I have questions about what
>>>>Lorenzo says, especially if what he said seems pretty stupid. But that
>>>>is the way of details, I suppose.
>>>> Anyway, I have not been making a "big issue" out of any of this - who
>>>>has been constantly ranting and raving about this BiGHA, and now my
>>>>being "sponsored" by them? Certainly not me. But I do agree with you -
>>>>his behavior does indicate a small mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>I now learn from another one of Lorenzo's posts that you are an EDITOR
>
> of
>
>>>your magazine. True or false? You do not merely just submit articles as
>
> a
>
>>>writer. Now my estimate of you is in the cellar. You do not even take
>>>responsibility for your magazine even though you are an editor of it. I
>
> will
>
>>>let the readers of ARBR draw their own conclusions about you and your
>>>magazine, but I will stay as far away as I can get from it. Your
>
> credibility
>
>>>with me is now zip!
>>>
>>
>> What are you talking about? In what way do I "not even take
>>responsibility for my magazine"? Of course, we see that you are
>>continuing the tradition of your friend, claiming that it's MY magazine
>>- it's not.
>> And now you're all puffed up, and you're going to "stay as far away
>>from it" as you can. There's nothing new there, Dolan - you didn't read
>>it before, did you? Regardless, I do think it's a wise decision on your
>>part to continue not reading it.
>
>
> You were leaving the impression that you were merely a writer who was
> submitting articles to the magazine. Now instead we learn that you are one
> of the editors. Big difference! I take it that Mr. Ball is the publisher and
> owner, but it is impossible to get any useful information out of you about
> your relationship to the magazine of which you are an editor. You have had
> plenty of opportunity on this thread to explain yourself, but instead
> Lorenzo had to drag it out of you inch by inch. It strikes me that you are
> not particularly fond of your association with the magazine. If I were Mr.
> Ball, I would fire you for not defending the magazine better.
>
> I will never have to read that magazine of which you are an editor as long
> as RCN is around, of that I can assure you!
>

There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
already know how worthless you think that is.
Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I have
explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable to
understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of reading
what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of going by what
is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".
The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
 
Larry Varney wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> He meant by sponsor that you were being paid by the magazine for your
>>>>>> review. But it is ever the way of small minds to attach to details
>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> make
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> a big issue out of nothing. I occasionally like to set up straw men
>>
>>
>> too,
>>
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I try not to make a habit of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll know who to go to from now on, when I have questions about what
>>>>> Lorenzo says, especially if what he said seems pretty stupid. But that
>>>>> is the way of details, I suppose.
>>>>> Anyway, I have not been making a "big issue" out of any of this - who
>>>>> has been constantly ranting and raving about this BiGHA, and now my
>>>>> being "sponsored" by them? Certainly not me. But I do agree with you -
>>>>> his behavior does indicate a small mind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I now learn from another one of Lorenzo's posts that you are an EDITOR
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>>> your magazine. True or false? You do not merely just submit articles as
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>>> writer. Now my estimate of you is in the cellar. You do not even take
>>>> responsibility for your magazine even though you are an editor of it. I
>>
>>
>> will
>>
>>>> let the readers of ARBR draw their own conclusions about you and your
>>>> magazine, but I will stay as far away as I can get from it. Your
>>
>>
>> credibility
>>
>>>> with me is now zip!
>>>>
>>>
>>> What are you talking about? In what way do I "not even take
>>> responsibility for my magazine"? Of course, we see that you are
>>> continuing the tradition of your friend, claiming that it's MY magazine
>>> - it's not.
>>> And now you're all puffed up, and you're going to "stay as far away
>>> from it" as you can. There's nothing new there, Dolan - you didn't read
>>> it before, did you? Regardless, I do think it's a wise decision on your
>>> part to continue not reading it.
>>
>>
>>
>> You were leaving the impression that you were merely a writer who was
>> submitting articles to the magazine. Now instead we learn that you are
>> one
>> of the editors. Big difference! I take it that Mr. Ball is the
>> publisher and
>> owner, but it is impossible to get any useful information out of you
>> about
>> your relationship to the magazine of which you are an editor. You have
>> had
>> plenty of opportunity on this thread to explain yourself, but instead
>> Lorenzo had to drag it out of you inch by inch. It strikes me that you
>> are
>> not particularly fond of your association with the magazine. If I were
>> Mr.
>> Ball, I would fire you for not defending the magazine better.
>>
>> I will never have to read that magazine of which you are an editor as
>> long
>> as RCN is around, of that I can assure you!
>>
>
> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
> written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
> magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
> usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
> don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
> magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
> already know how worthless you think that is.
> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
> saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
> finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I have
> explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable to
> understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of reading
> what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of going by what
> is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".
> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.
>

I have read your magazine, that's how I know it is your magazine, that
is a magazine that you are an editor of. That's how I know Bigha is a
paid sponsor. That's how I know why you have been so fanatically
attacking anyone who expresses a negative opinion of one of your
sponsors, because that's where the money comes from. And that's how I
know you have been creating a disreputable public opinion of yourself
and your magazine by misrepresenting yourself. Does Bryan Ball know what
you are doing?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"If you do not tell the truth about yourself you cannot tell it about
other people."
Virginia Woolf (1882-1941).
 
Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
> Larry Varney wrote:

>> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
>> written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
>> magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
>> usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
>> don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
>> magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
>> already know how worthless you think that is.
>> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
>> saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
>> finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I
>> have explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable
>> to understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of
>> reading what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of
>> going by what is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".
>> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
>> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
>> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
>> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
>> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.
>>
>
> I have read your magazine, that's how I know it is your magazine, that
> is a magazine that you are an editor of. That's how I know Bigha is a
> paid sponsor. That's how I know why you have been so fanatically
> attacking anyone who expresses a negative opinion of one of your
> sponsors, because that's where the money comes from. And that's how I
> know you have been creating a disreputable public opinion of yourself
> and your magazine by misrepresenting yourself. Does Bryan Ball know what
> you are doing?
>
> Lorenzo L. Love

It is not my magazine. I do not own it. I have not attacked anyone
who has expressed a negative opinion of BiGHA, neither here nor in the
magazine. Quote me if you can - but you can't. I have not misrepresented
myself at all. I have merely been wasting my time trying to explain
these simple concepts, over and over, to you.
Why are you having such a hard time with this? What is wrong with
you? Is it deliberate? Do you think that I own the magazine? Do you
think I am the magazine? Can you post one, absolutely ONE, attack I've
made against anyone because they've expressed a negative opinion of this
bike?
No, you can't. And you won't. You'll just continue this silly
nonsense of yours. You are either a congeital liar, one of the stupidest
people I hope never to meet, or you just delight in passing yourself off
as one or both. Which is it, Love?
If you really do have a mental problem, then I apologize. Otherwise,
your game is very tiresome, and a waste of time. If you ever say
anything sensible in the future, I may respond. Otherwise, I am through
- you'll have to play with yourself from here on.


--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
 
Edward Dolan wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>[Nothing]
>>
>>Hey Ed, type something before hitting send, you dolt!
>
>
> I do this occasionally to keep you are your toes and to give you something
> to post about.
>
> But I am waiting for your response to Freewheeling (Scott) on another
> current thread. Nothing to say? I thought so. It is getting harder and
> harder to defend liberalism these days isn't it, let alone Marxism and
> Communism....

I will leave it to Mr. Dolan to defend avarice, violence, class warfare
against those born in the working classes, and hatred of cultural and
religious values not shared by the Christian Coalition, as these are the
values of the current leadership of the Republican Party that he so
strongly advocates.

Note: I will be too occupied with pile driving for the next to weeks to
engage in any lengthy discussions.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
Lorenzo L. Love wrote:

> Larry Varney wrote:
>
>> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Varney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Larry Varney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry Varney wrote:...

"As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end."

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> > You were leaving the impression that you were merely a writer who was
> > submitting articles to the magazine. Now instead we learn that you are
one
> > of the editors. Big difference! I take it that Mr. Ball is the publisher
and
> > owner, but it is impossible to get any useful information out of you
about
> > your relationship to the magazine of which you are an editor. You have
had
> > plenty of opportunity on this thread to explain yourself, but instead
> > Lorenzo had to drag it out of you inch by inch. It strikes me that you
are
> > not particularly fond of your association with the magazine. If I were
Mr.
> > Ball, I would fire you for not defending the magazine better.
> >
> > I will never have to read that magazine of which you are an editor as
long
> > as RCN is around, of that I can assure you!
> >
>
> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
> written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
> magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine.

Why the hell didn't you tell us what it is that you DO for the magazine
instead of telling us what it is that you do NOT do for the magazine. You
underestimate the intelligence of ARBR members. Any one with their head
screwed on straight would have immediately said that he was an editor and a
writer for the magazine. What else have you neglected to tell us about your
relationship to the magazine I wonder? Apparently you are not the publisher
and you do not own the magazine. All of this should have been said about a
hundred posts ago.

And you, as
> usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
> don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
> magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
> already know how worthless you think that is.

I only read what interests me, just like you do.

> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
> saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
> finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I have
> explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable to
> understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of reading
> what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of going by what
> is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".

I did not know you were an editor of the magazine. I didn't know because you
never mentioned it. Why? I had to find out that bit of information from
Lorenzo.

> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?

Second hand knowledge is as good if not better than first hand knowledge in
most cases. All you have to know is the trustworthiness of the provider of
the knowledge. For instance, I trust Mr. Bob Bryant of RCN; I do not trust
Mr. Larry Varney of Bentrideronline. Elementary my dear Watson!

> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.

You can't go wrong with RCN. It is an honest recumbent publication and
informative as hell. And it will tell you what is a good buy and what is a
bad buy, something you and your magazine will never do apparently.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:

>
> Why the hell didn't you tell us what it is that you DO for the magazine
> instead of telling us what it is that you do NOT do for the magazine. You
> underestimate the intelligence of ARBR members. Any one with their head
> screwed on straight would have immediately said that he was an editor and a
> writer for the magazine. What else have you neglected to tell us about your
> relationship to the magazine I wonder? Apparently you are not the publisher
> and you do not own the magazine. All of this should have been said about a
> hundred posts ago.
>

No one has asked me what I do for the magazine, Dolan - proably for
the simple reason that all they have to do is READ IT! Look at the
website, and there it is for all to see!
No, I've just responded to the idiots who keep claiming that I *AM*
the magazine, that I *own* the magazine, that some particular bike
company sponsors *me*! These accusations were all wrong - should I have
let people think that they were true? Or should I have gone on and told
them the bloody obvious, the things that they could see for themselves,
so long as they're not too lazy or cowardly to READ!

>
> I did not know you were an editor of the magazine. I didn't know because you
> never mentioned it. Why? I had to find out that bit of information from
> Lorenzo.
>
>
Wy didn't you know? Because you never read the magazine. Don't be so
lazy, Dolan! Do some work for yourself - READ! You did NOT have to find
that out from your pal - you could have seen it for yourself!

>>The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
>>anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
>>you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
>>EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
>
>
> Second hand knowledge is as good if not better than first hand knowledge in
> most cases.

I am so thankful that you were a librarian and not a surgeon. Such an
attitude inspires lots of confidence in your abilities and opinions - not.




--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
 
"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
> > Larry Varney wrote:
>
> >> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
> >> written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
> >> magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
> >> usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
> >> don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
> >> magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
> >> already know how worthless you think that is.
> >> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
> >> saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
> >> finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I
> >> have explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable
> >> to understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of
> >> reading what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of
> >> going by what is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".
> >> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
> >> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
> >> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
> >> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
> >> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.
> >>
> >
> > I have read your magazine, that's how I know it is your magazine, that
> > is a magazine that you are an editor of. That's how I know Bigha is a
> > paid sponsor. That's how I know why you have been so fanatically
> > attacking anyone who expresses a negative opinion of one of your
> > sponsors, because that's where the money comes from. And that's how I
> > know you have been creating a disreputable public opinion of yourself
> > and your magazine by misrepresenting yourself. Does Bryan Ball know what
> > you are doing?
> >
> > Lorenzo L. Love
>
> It is not my magazine. I do not own it. I have not attacked anyone
> who has expressed a negative opinion of BiGHA, neither here nor in the
> magazine. Quote me if you can - but you can't. I have not misrepresented
> myself at all. I have merely been wasting my time trying to explain
> these simple concepts, over and over, to you.
> Why are you having such a hard time with this? What is wrong with
> you? Is it deliberate? Do you think that I own the magazine? Do you
> think I am the magazine? Can you post one, absolutely ONE, attack I've
> made against anyone because they've expressed a negative opinion of this
> bike?
> No, you can't. And you won't. You'll just continue this silly
> nonsense of yours. You are either a congeital liar, one of the stupidest
> people I hope never to meet, or you just delight in passing yourself off
> as one or both. Which is it, Love?
> If you really do have a mental problem, then I apologize. Otherwise,
> your game is very tiresome, and a waste of time. If you ever say
> anything sensible in the future, I may respond. Otherwise, I am through
> - you'll have to play with yourself from here on.

You had best bail out of this ****ing mess you have created for yourself on
this subject thread Varney. If Mr. Ball were to stumble on this he would
most likely fire you. I know I would if I were him. You did not defend your
magazine properly and you did not even defend Bigha properly. The latter is
probably the more serious offense. But Hells Bells! You did not even defend
yourself properly. Strike three - you are out!

I note that Mr. Ball has left ARBR for greener pastures elsewhere. I think
that was very smart of him. I think if I were you I would do the same. It is
impossible for you to open your mouth without putting your foot in it. You
have certainly done your magazine no good by your being here.

Mr. Lorenzo T. Love has been dead on from the beginning and you have never
answered a single one of his objections to your disreputable conduct on this
thread. We should all save this thread to our Documents as an example of
what never to do. Varney can be an object lesson to us all.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Varney wrote:
>>
>>>> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
>>>>written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
>>>>magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
>>>>usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
>>>>don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
>>>>magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
>>>>already know how worthless you think that is.
>>>> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've kept
>>>>saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you would
>>>>finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the other. I
>>>>have explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal seem unable
>>>>to understand the simplest of English words and phrases. Instead of
>>>>reading what is written, you go by your "impressions". Instead of
>>>>going by what is said, you go by what you think the writer "intended".
>>>> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
>>>>anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
>>>>you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
>>>>EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
>>>> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have read your magazine, that's how I know it is your magazine, that
>>>is a magazine that you are an editor of. That's how I know Bigha is a
>>>paid sponsor. That's how I know why you have been so fanatically
>>>attacking anyone who expresses a negative opinion of one of your
>>>sponsors, because that's where the money comes from. And that's how I
>>>know you have been creating a disreputable public opinion of yourself
>>>and your magazine by misrepresenting yourself. Does Bryan Ball know what
>>>you are doing?
>>>
>>>Lorenzo L. Love
>>
>> It is not my magazine. I do not own it. I have not attacked anyone
>>who has expressed a negative opinion of BiGHA, neither here nor in the
>>magazine. Quote me if you can - but you can't. I have not misrepresented
>>myself at all. I have merely been wasting my time trying to explain
>>these simple concepts, over and over, to you.
>> Why are you having such a hard time with this? What is wrong with
>>you? Is it deliberate? Do you think that I own the magazine? Do you
>>think I am the magazine? Can you post one, absolutely ONE, attack I've
>>made against anyone because they've expressed a negative opinion of this
>>bike?
>> No, you can't. And you won't. You'll just continue this silly
>>nonsense of yours. You are either a congeital liar, one of the stupidest
>>people I hope never to meet, or you just delight in passing yourself off
>>as one or both. Which is it, Love?
>> If you really do have a mental problem, then I apologize. Otherwise,
>>your game is very tiresome, and a waste of time. If you ever say
>>anything sensible in the future, I may respond. Otherwise, I am through
>>- you'll have to play with yourself from here on.
>
>
> You had best bail out of this ****ing mess you have created for yourself on
> this subject thread Varney. If Mr. Ball were to stumble on this he would
> most likely fire you. I know I would if I were him. You did not defend your
> magazine properly

Defend it against what? What accusations were made against it?

and you did not even defend Bigha properly.

I haven't defended it at all - haven't you noticed?

The latter is
> probably the more serious offense. But Hells Bells! You did not even defend
> yourself properly. Strike three - you are out!
>
> I note that Mr. Ball has left ARBR for greener pastures elsewhere. I think
> that was very smart of him. I think if I were you I would do the same. It is
> impossible for you to open your mouth without putting your foot in it. You
> have certainly done your magazine no good by your being here.

Actually, I disagree. Many people have said that while they feel bad for
the sty that ARBR has become as a result of you and your pal, they're
glad to know that there is a place online they can go to, for good
information without the embarrassing bigotry and vulgar language.

>
> Mr. Lorenzo T. Love has been dead on from the beginning and you have never
> answered a single one of his objections to your disreputable conduct on this
> thread.

I answered them over and over again. It's not my fault that you two are
deficient in understanding.

We should all save this thread to our Documents as an example of
> what never to do. Varney can be an object lesson to us all.
>


--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
 
Edward Dolan wrote:

> ...
> Mr. Lorenzo T. Love...

Who is Lorenzo T. Love - related to Lorenzo L. Love, perchance?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>
> >>[Nothing]
> >>
> >>Hey Ed, type something before hitting send, you dolt!
> >
> >
> > I do this occasionally to keep you are your toes and to give you
something
> > to post about.
> >
> > But I am waiting for your response to Freewheeling (Scott) on another
> > current thread. Nothing to say? I thought so. It is getting harder and
> > harder to defend liberalism these days isn't it, let alone Marxism and
> > Communism....
>
> I will leave it to Mr. Dolan to defend avarice, violence, class warfare
> against those born in the working classes, and hatred of cultural and
> religious values not shared by the Christian Coalition, as these are the
> values of the current leadership of the Republican Party that he so
> strongly advocates.

I am only attacking liberal and leftist nostrums to the eternal problems of
mankind on this earth. These liberal and leftist nostrums have never yet
accomplished much. In fact, they have mostly made matters infinitely worse.

I have the common sense never to make the kind of equations which Mr.
Sherman constantly makes. He thinks the Christian West is no better than the
Muslim East. Have you ever heard of anything so ridiculous? He also thinks
the Israeli military is no different than the Palestinian terrorists. And so
it goes with him. He is a case of diversity and relativism gone stark raving
mad. He is unable to make any judgments about anything in the cultural and
religious sphere. We are all equally good or we are all equally bad. It is
nothing but brainless nonsense.

> Note: I will be too occupied with pile driving for the next to weeks to
> engage in any lengthy discussions.

I think I have just divined the source of all your troubles in this world -
it is those pile driving machines. They have rattled your brains. You need
to find a more contemplative type of work. As Rush is constantly saying on
his radio program, if you don't like your work, then quit it and find
something else to do. I think 5 minutes around a pile driving machine would
be more than enough for me. I thought engineers were suppose to be
intellectuals. That pile driving is the death of intellect. No wonder you
are so confused and shook up all the time.

One other thing, this pile driving **** is what could be giving you your
headaches you know. 2 + 2 = 4!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Larry Varney wrote:
> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>
>> Larry Varney wrote:
>
>
>>> There you go again, reading the "impression" rather than what is
>>> written. All I said was, and I continue to say, is that it is not my
>>> magazine, I don't own it, and that I am NOT the magazine. And you, as
>>> usual, do not do any work of your own - you don't read anything, you
>>> don't investigate anything, you don't actually go out and look at the
>>> magazine. After all, that would count as personal experience, and we
>>> already know how worthless you think that is.
>>> Lorenzo has not had to "drag" anything out of me. In fact, I've
>>> kept saying the same things, over and over, hoping that one of you
>>> would finally understand what I've writen, and perhaps tell the
>>> other. I have explained myself, over and over, but you and your pal
>>> seem unable to understand the simplest of English words and phrases.
>>> Instead of reading what is written, you go by your "impressions".
>>> Instead of going by what is said, you go by what you think the writer
>>> "intended".
>>> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
>>> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
>>> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
>>> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
>>> And just to be on the safe side, I'm sending in my RCN renewal today.
>>>
>>
>> I have read your magazine, that's how I know it is your magazine, that
>> is a magazine that you are an editor of. That's how I know Bigha is a
>> paid sponsor. That's how I know why you have been so fanatically
>> attacking anyone who expresses a negative opinion of one of your
>> sponsors, because that's where the money comes from. And that's how I
>> know you have been creating a disreputable public opinion of yourself
>> and your magazine by misrepresenting yourself. Does Bryan Ball know
>> what you are doing?
>>
>> Lorenzo L. Love
>
>
> It is not my magazine. I do not own it. I have not attacked anyone who
> has expressed a negative opinion of BiGHA, neither here nor in the
> magazine. Quote me if you can - but you can't. I have not misrepresented
> myself at all. I have merely been wasting my time trying to explain
> these simple concepts, over and over, to you.
> Why are you having such a hard time with this? What is wrong with you?
> Is it deliberate? Do you think that I own the magazine? Do you think I
> am the magazine? Can you post one, absolutely ONE, attack I've made
> against anyone because they've expressed a negative opinion of this bike?
> No, you can't. And you won't. You'll just continue this silly nonsense
> of yours. You are either a congeital liar, one of the stupidest people I
> hope never to meet, or you just delight in passing yourself off as one
> or both. Which is it, Love?
> If you really do have a mental problem, then I apologize. Otherwise,
> your game is very tiresome, and a waste of time. If you ever say
> anything sensible in the future, I may respond. Otherwise, I am through
> - you'll have to play with yourself from here on.
>
>

Again with the attacks, again defending a paid sponsor. There is a liar
there, it is the one misrepresenting his position in his magazine and
his financial relationship with Bigha. What other reason is there to so
ferociously attack anyone who makes the obvious observation that
$3000.00 is a ridiculous price for a 52 pound comfort bike then to
protect a source of income? It could be insanity, but I never attribute
to insanity what can be explained by greed.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Thirst makes any wine drinkable
And greed makes any crime thinkable.
 
Larry Varney wrote:

> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>>
>> Why the hell didn't you tell us what it is that you DO for the magazine
>> instead of telling us what it is that you do NOT do for the magazine. You
>> underestimate the intelligence of ARBR members. Any one with their head
>> screwed on straight would have immediately said that he was an editor
>> and a
>> writer for the magazine. What else have you neglected to tell us about
>> your
>> relationship to the magazine I wonder? Apparently you are not the
>> publisher
>> and you do not own the magazine. All of this should have been said
>> about a
>> hundred posts ago.
>>
>
> No one has asked me what I do for the magazine, Dolan - proably for
> the simple reason that all they have to do is READ IT! Look at the
> website, and there it is for all to see!
> No, I've just responded to the idiots who keep claiming that I *AM*
> the magazine, that I *own* the magazine, that some particular bike
> company sponsors *me*! These accusations were all wrong - should I have
> let people think that they were true? Or should I have gone on and told
> them the bloody obvious, the things that they could see for themselves,
> so long as they're not too lazy or cowardly to READ!
>
>>
>> I did not know you were an editor of the magazine. I didn't know
>> because you
>> never mentioned it. Why? I had to find out that bit of information from
>> Lorenzo.
>>
>>
> Wy didn't you know? Because you never read the magazine. Don't be so
> lazy, Dolan! Do some work for yourself - READ! You did NOT have to find
> that out from your pal - you could have seen it for yourself!
>
>>> The magazine needs no defense, Dolan. But then, you wouldn't know
>>> anything about it, would you? Have you ever bothered to read it? Have
>>> you ever bothered to read ANYTHING? Or do you form your opinions of
>>> EVERYTHING without actual knowledge?
>>
>>
>>
>> Second hand knowledge is as good if not better than first hand
>> knowledge in
>> most cases.
>
>
> I am so thankful that you were a librarian and not a surgeon. Such an
> attitude inspires lots of confidence in your abilities and opinions - not.
>
>
>
>

Anyone who reads your magazine knows that you are an editor and that
Bigha is an paid sponsor. No other reason is needed for your ferocious
defense of a $3000.00, 52 pound comfort bike.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Thirst makes any wine drinkable
And greed makes any crime thinkable.
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
>
> > Larry Varney wrote:
> >
> >> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
> >>
> >>> Larry Varney wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Larry Varney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Lorenzo L. Love wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Larry Varney wrote:...
>
> "As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end."
>
> --
> Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

You're right Tom. Screw it! I'm out of here as I am now convinced that
Varney is as screwy as they come. We just go round and round and never get
anywhere. It reminds me of many a childish game we use to play when I was a
wittle kid. Either Ring-Around-the-Rosie or musical chairs or some such
brainless game.Varney is an eternal Purgatory. It is better to go to Hell
and be done with it than to have to correspond with Varney. Like I said -
screw it!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
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