Has anyone tried the Bigha?



"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[...]
> As usual you can't answer the question I ask but expect everyone to answer
> yours even after they have so I ask you once again if you can name one
> reviewer that isn't too critical and won't make a no buy recommendation?

No, you stupid ****ing asshole! Most reviewers will never be that critical
and will never recommend that you don't buy the product. If they did that
they would be fired. The only reviewers who will make those kind of
recommendations are consumer organizations like Consumer's Reports. That is
why they are worth their weight in gold. Were you born stupid or did you get
that way from your association with that other supreme asshole of the
newsgroup, Varney.

> I am not adamant for the bike however unlike you I will not judge it
without
> riding it.

Hells Bells, I have been reading you long enough now to know that you are an
idiot. I do not have to read you any further but I will because your kind of
stupidity is boundless and full of unexpected depths. But mostly I will read
you because I am not a cowardly kill filer like you. But if I am going to
have to read your stupid posts, then at least learn how to write them. Your
sentence above is a mess because you have not punctuated it correctly.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Slugger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, Edward Dolan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Slugger wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...
> > > > I then went to a bike store in town that specializes in recumbents.
> > > > I then road the Burley Koosah....
> > >
> > > Has anyone else noticed that the Burley Koosah/Jett Creek looks like a
> > > RANS Stratus with the triangulating frame tubes removed?
> >
> > That may well be because the Stratus was always a very good design. I
feel
> > like the Burley Koosah is most likely the classic design that is going
to
> > prevail for LWB OSS direct steer. The seat is where it should be, the BB
is
> > where it should be and the handlebars are where they should be. The head
> > tube and fork rake look about right. The 26" rear wheel is the only way
to
> > go. And finally, the price looks good too at $899. (Hostel Shoppe). I
would
> > only have to ride it to check out the comfort of the seat.
>
> I found a review with a comparison chart of the Burley against the EZ -
> Sport and the Rans Tailwind.
> http://www.bicycleman.com/recumbents/burley/burley_koosah.htm
>
> Its a good read for me..i am really leaning towards this bike now.

Slugger, I don't think you can go far wrong if you get the Burley Koosah.
However, seat comfort can sometimes be a problem on even the best designed
recumbents. If possible, try to ride the bike for a couple of hours
continuously to see if the seat is going to be comfortable for you. You may
have to fiddle with the seat lean back to dial in perfect comfort. If you
start getting recumbent butt after a half hour or so, then you will need to
rethink it. A recumbent that is not totally comfortable for all day riding
is an abomination.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Slugger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:120620042308060139%[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Edward Dolan
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Slugger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > > I then went to a bike store in town that specializes in
recumbents.
> > > > > I then road the Burley Koosah....
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else noticed that the Burley Koosah/Jett Creek looks like
a
> > > > RANS Stratus with the triangulating frame tubes removed?
> > >
> > > That may well be because the Stratus was always a very good design. I
> feel
> > > like the Burley Koosah is most likely the classic design that is going
> to
> > > prevail for LWB OSS direct steer. The seat is where it should be, the
BB
> is
> > > where it should be and the handlebars are where they should be. The
head
> > > tube and fork rake look about right. The 26" rear wheel is the only
way
> to
> > > go. And finally, the price looks good too at $899. (Hostel Shoppe). I
> would
> > > only have to ride it to check out the comfort of the seat.
> >
> > I found a review with a comparison chart of the Burley against the EZ -
> > Sport and the Rans Tailwind.
> > http://www.bicycleman.com/recumbents/burley/burley_koosah.htm
> >
> > Its a good read for me..i am really leaning towards this bike now.
>
> Slugger, I don't think you can go far wrong if you get the Burley Koosah.
> However, seat comfort can sometimes be a problem on even the best designed
> recumbents. If possible, try to ride the bike for a couple of hours
> continuously to see if the seat is going to be comfortable for you. You
may
> have to fiddle with the seat lean back to dial in perfect comfort. If you
> start getting recumbent butt after a half hour or so, then you will need
to
> rethink it. A recumbent that is not totally comfortable for all day riding
> is an abomination.
>
> --

Slugger:

Good advice from Ed.

The Burley Koosa is a new bike and I haven't had the opportunity to ride
one. But I sure like the looks of the Koosah and the price is right.
Here's a link to review of an upgraded Koosah called the Jett Creek:

http://www.bentrideronline.com/

skip
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> Ed is a fool and I suggest putting him on ignore like I did ages ago,
> besides for some reason I doubt he picked his last car or the house he
lives
> in based only on price and weight :)

In reviewing my posts on this thread I discovered that I actually had
addressed a few of them to Mark which like all my posts are full of
knowledge and the most profound wisdom. Now I learn that he never even saw
them because I am on his "ignore" list. In other words, he has kill filed
me, but he is contributing heavily to a thread to which I am also
contributing heavily and now, as the final straw, he tells one and all that
he ignores me, yet feels free to call me names, and then to top it all off
advises others to also kill file me since they can't think for themselves .
Ah, where to begin with a fool like him!

I do not have any problem with correspondents who read and respond, no
matter how idiotic I think their comments may be. I have proven this over
and over via Mr. Sherman. Even when he equates the Palestinian terrorists
with the Israeli military, I only go berserk, I do not kill file him and
then call him names. No, I will read him until hell freezes over because I
pride myself on being a fair person. I do the same with Varney and many
others here. Cletus and I fell out early on because he did exactly the same
thing as this fool Leuck did - bad mouthing me without even reading my
messages.

Now maybe some of you can see why I never give a liberal any quarter. They
do not play fair. They are back stabbers and scoundrels. Once you know this
about them, the only thing to do is to go for the jugular like I do. It is
the one thing they understand.

Mark Leuck now goes on my "bastards to excoriate" list along with Cletus and
a few others (by the way, what ever happened to Cletus? I do not see his
posts on ARBR anymore.).

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:05:31 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This is about value. Do YOU thing a Bigha is a good value? You don't
>need to buy one to determine that. Do you think that a 50 lb comfort
>bike is a good value at $3000?

No, this is about your monomania. You have a problem and you've spent
a lot more time on this than it is worth. I've spent a lot less time,
but time spent talking to you is wasted, so yes, I've wasted enough
time as it is.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
"Curtis L. Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:05:31 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >This is about value. Do YOU thing a Bigha is a good value? You don't
> >need to buy one to determine that. Do you think that a 50 lb comfort
> >bike is a good value at $3000?
>
> No, this is about your monomania. You have a problem and you've spent
> a lot more time on this than it is worth. I've spent a lot less time,
> but time spent talking to you is wasted, so yes, I've wasted enough
> time as it is.

Lorenzo is on point and is asking the same question that I am asking also.
It is a simple question and only calls for a simple answer. But you and
others of your ilk will not answer it because you fall into that category of
person who has more money than brains and you are not used to justifying how
you spend your money. Lorenzo and I of course could care less how you spend
your money, but we would like to know how you can justify such an
expenditure to the great mass of mankind who do not have your kind of
disposable income.

Lorenzo and I KNOW that the Bigha is not good value because we live in a
real world and not some fantasy land like you where price bears no
relationship to value. The proper answer for you is to claim that I am a
rich ******* and I spend my money like a fool because I have it to burn and
I want to show the world what a rich and successful person I am. You have
lots of company here in America and other rich nations, but please do not
insult us by talking about value.

You need to read Thorstein Veblen's account of conspicuous consumption in
"The Theory of the Leisure Class" in order to get a clue.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:05:31 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>This is about value. Do YOU thing a Bigha is a good value? You don't
>>need to buy one to determine that. Do you think that a 50 lb comfort
>>bike is a good value at $3000?
>
>
> No, this is about your monomania. You have a problem and you've spent
> a lot more time on this than it is worth. I've spent a lot less time,
> but time spent talking to you is wasted, so yes, I've wasted enough
> time as it is.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

Why does such a simple question cause such a kneejerk defensive
reaction? Do you thing a Bigha is a good value? Do you think that a 50
lb comfort bike is a good value at $3000? People like Larry Varney have
a financial reason, Bigha is an sponsor of his webmagazine. Can't say
bad things about a sponsor. What is your connection with Bigha that
compels you to attack anyone who is critical of them?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Thirst makes any wine drinkable
And greed makes any crime thinkable.
 
"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Why does such a simple question cause such a kneejerk defensive
> reaction?

We've answered your question many times but lets try once more

Do you thing a Bigha is a good value?

For me no since I already have 2 bikes

> Do you think that a 50
> lb comfort bike is a good value at $3000?

It might be but I've never ridden it, I also don't know if a Giant Revive is
a good value at less than $1000 for the same reason or a Gold Rush or a
Volare or a Rans or...etc etc..

> People like Larry Varney have
> a financial reason, Bigha is an sponsor of his webmagazine. Can't say
> bad things about a sponsor.

Ahhh the conspiracy widens, BigHa is silencing Larry.....oookkkkayyyy

> What is your connection with Bigha that
> compels you to attack anyone who is critical of them?

He didn't say either way and won't know until he rides one, you on the other
hand choose to attack him and BigHa the company, the bike really has nothing
to do with it
 
Mark Leuck wrote:
> "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Why does such a simple question cause such a kneejerk defensive
>>reaction?
>
>
> We've answered your question many times but lets try once more
>
> Do you thing a Bigha is a good value?
>
> For me no since I already have 2 bikes
>
>
>>Do you think that a 50
>>lb comfort bike is a good value at $3000?
>
>
> It might be but I've never ridden it, I also don't know if a Giant Revive is
> a good value at less than $1000 for the same reason or a Gold Rush or a
> Volare or a Rans or...etc etc..
>
>
>>People like Larry Varney have
>>a financial reason, Bigha is an sponsor of his webmagazine. Can't say
>>bad things about a sponsor.
>
>
> Ahhh the conspiracy widens, BigHa is silencing Larry.....oookkkkayyyy
>
>
>>What is your connection with Bigha that
>>compels you to attack anyone who is critical of them?
>
>
> He didn't say either way and won't know until he rides one, you on the other
> hand choose to attack him and BigHa the company, the bike really has nothing
> to do with it
>
>

You claim you don't have an opinion on the Bigha, yet you attack anyone
who expresses their opinion that it costs too much. That is in itself an
opinion. So what's your real reason for defending Bigha?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"If you would know the value of money, go and try to borrow some."
Benjamin Franklin
 
"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > He didn't say either way and won't know until he rides one, you on the
other
> > hand choose to attack him and BigHa the company, the bike really has
nothing
> > to do with it
> >
> >
>
> You claim you don't have an opinion on the Bigha, yet you attack anyone
> who expresses their opinion that it costs too much. That is in itself an
> opinion. So what's your real reason for defending Bigha?

I won't judge a bike until I ride it, you on the other hand just attack
anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion
 
Mark Leuck wrote:
> "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>He didn't say either way and won't know until he rides one, you on the
>
> other
>
>>>hand choose to attack him and BigHa the company, the bike really has
>
> nothing
>
>>>to do with it
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You claim you don't have an opinion on the Bigha, yet you attack anyone
>>who expresses their opinion that it costs too much. That is in itself an
>>opinion. So what's your real reason for defending Bigha?
>
>
> I won't judge a bike until I ride it, you on the other hand just attack
> anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion
>
>
>

I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"There was a time when a fool and his money were soon parted, but now it
happens to everybody."
Adlai E. Stevenson
 
"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[...]
> I won't judge a bike until I ride it, you on the other hand just attack
> anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion.

I do not have to ride the bike to know that it is over priced and over
weight and is not a good value. The reason I can say this is because I am
not an idiot like you are. What do you think you are going to find out by
riding this over priced and over weight bike anyway? You need to see a head
shrink and find out why you are so stupid!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
> are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
> you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?
>
> Lorenzo L. Love

I find it odd you think everyone here has a connection with Bigha, wierd
 
"Mark Leuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
> > are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
> > you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?
> >
> > Lorenzo L. Love
>
> I find it odd you think everyone here has a connection with Bigha, wierd

What else are we to conclude when your posts in defense of the Bigha make no
sense at all. If you want credibility, then make sense. Your posts insult
our intelligence.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
>>are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
>>you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?
>>
>> Lorenzo L. Love
>
>
> I find it odd you think everyone here has a connection with Bigha, wierd
>
>
>

You obviously have some sort of emotional investment in this bike. You
say you never rode it, I believe you said you would not buy one, you
claim to not have any opinion on it, yet in post after post you attack
people who do have negative opinions of it. Apparently gushing over this
bike for no reason is fine with you but rational criticism of it based
on known indisputable data like price and weight is forbidden. Why do
you care so much about this bike?


Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures
of logic, but with creatures of emotions, creatures bristling with
prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity."
Dale Carnegie
 
> Because if you didn't give a fair and impartial review, you wouldn't be
> working for Consumer Reports for long. Consumer Reports, because they
> buy the product and are not dependent on the manufacturers for free
> products, can insist on fair reviews. Who does that for recumbents?
>
> Lorenzo L. Love
> http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove
>
> Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand

If your publication does not give fair or impartial reviews on any
product, the market will reject you and you'll soon be out of
business. Do you think Ebert pays to see all the movies he reviews?
No, but he still sticks his thumb down at some of them.

IMO, all reviews must be taken with a grain of salt. Surely, the
company is out to impress the reviewer, giving them special service
and attention. Then you have to take into account the reviewer is not
exactly like you and may not have your same preferences (unless you're
a follower like Ed Dolan). Finally and perhaps most importantly, a
review is only a snapshot of the ownership experience. I don't want to
know what happened with the Bigha in the first day or week of riding,
I want to know what happens 1 year and 5 years down the road. Will it
fall apart? Will I still enjoy riding it? No review will ever answer
these questions.

I think you are too critical of Bentrider Online. If they make a
profit at all, its got to be tiny. They're not getting rich off of it
so they only do it for the love of recumbency. I could be wrong, but
my assumption has always been that Varney contributes on a voluntary
basis only. For God's sake, they opened up a donation wire so people
could give money to help keep things going!

If they give overly-positive reviews it's certainly got nothing to do
with financial reasons.
 
Hashim El Amin wrote:

>>Because if you didn't give a fair and impartial review, you wouldn't be
>>working for Consumer Reports for long. Consumer Reports, because they
>>buy the product and are not dependent on the manufacturers for free
>>products, can insist on fair reviews. Who does that for recumbents?
>>
>>Lorenzo L. Love
>>http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove
>>
>>Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand
>
>
> If your publication does not give fair or impartial reviews on any
> product, the market will reject you and you'll soon be out of
> business. Do you think Ebert pays to see all the movies he reviews?
> No, but he still sticks his thumb down at some of them.
>
> IMO, all reviews must be taken with a grain of salt. Surely, the
> company is out to impress the reviewer, giving them special service
> and attention. Then you have to take into account the reviewer is not
> exactly like you and may not have your same preferences (unless you're
> a follower like Ed Dolan). Finally and perhaps most importantly, a
> review is only a snapshot of the ownership experience. I don't want to
> know what happened with the Bigha in the first day or week of riding,
> I want to know what happens 1 year and 5 years down the road. Will it
> fall apart? Will I still enjoy riding it? No review will ever answer
> these questions.
>
> I think you are too critical of Bentrider Online. If they make a
> profit at all, its got to be tiny. They're not getting rich off of it
> so they only do it for the love of recumbency. I could be wrong, but
> my assumption has always been that Varney contributes on a voluntary
> basis only. For God's sake, they opened up a donation wire so people
> could give money to help keep things going!
>
> If they give overly-positive reviews it's certainly got nothing to do
> with financial reasons.

There are over 30 sponsors listed on their homepage, one of which is
Bigha. I've no idea how much they charge for sponsorship but there is
obviously a financial relationship. This is true for most product
related magazines. Magazines like Consumer Reports who are independent
of sponsorship/advertisement revenue are rare. Varney is not just a
contributor, he's an editor. You're right, all reviews must be taken
with a grain of salt, sometimes a bigger grain then others. But Varney
didn't review the Bigha, he says he never rode it, yet he is an staunch
defender of it. A staunch defender of a sponsor. Draw your own conclusions.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Thirst makes any wine drinkable
And greed makes any crime thinkable.
 
"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
> >>are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
> >>you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?
> >>
> >> Lorenzo L. Love
> >
> >
> > I find it odd you think everyone here has a connection with Bigha, wierd
> >
> >
> >
>
> You obviously have some sort of emotional investment in this bike.

Not really, we could insert the words "Vision" for BigHa and I'd bet we'd
have the same debate, again your problem really is with the company not the
bike

> You
> say you never rode it,

> True

> I believe you said you would not buy one

Also true with a reason unrelated to that particular bike, At this time I
would not buy any other recumbent because as I said I have 2 now

> you
> claim to not have any opinion on it

No never said that, I said I wouldn't judge a bike unless I ride it

>, yet in post after post you attack
> people who do have negative opinions of it.

Only those with an irrational opinion

> Apparently gushing over this
> bike for no reason is fine with you

I never gushed over it, I stated any review I've seen had an overall
positive opinion about the bike in spite of the price and weight

> but rational criticism of it based
> on known indisputable data like price and weight is forbidden.

Never was forbidden, what post said it was?

> Why do
> you care so much about this bike?

Its not about the bike, its about your irrational hatred of the company that
interests me, why do you care enough to respond with so far 30 messages
about it?
 
"Hashim El Amin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[...]
> If your publication does not give fair or impartial reviews on any
> product, the market will reject you and you'll soon be out of
> business. Do you think Ebert pays to see all the movies he reviews?
> No, but he still sticks his thumb down at some of them.
>
> IMO, all reviews must be taken with a grain of salt. Surely, the
> company is out to impress the reviewer, giving them special service
> and attention. Then you have to take into account the reviewer is not
> exactly like you and may not have your same preferences (unless you're
> a follower like Ed Dolan). Finally and perhaps most importantly, a
> review is only a snapshot of the ownership experience. I don't want to
> know what happened with the Bigha in the first day or week of riding,
> I want to know what happens 1 year and 5 years down the road. Will it
> fall apart? Will I still enjoy riding it? No review will ever answer
> these questions.

If I know next to nothing about a product that I am thinking of buying, then
of course I am going to rely heavily on reviews. What would you have me do -
my own research?

On the other hand, a product like a recumbent bicycle I already know a lot
about from many years of reading RCN and from my own vast personal
experience. So of course I do not rely nearly so heavily on what expert
reviewers have to say about it.

There are moments for being a follower and other moments for being a leader.
It takes a smart man to know when one begins and the other leaves off. Only
dumkopfs thing they have to decide everything for themselves.

By the way, what movie reviewers do is in no way comparable to what product
reviewers do. There is nothing more subjective in this world than to review
a work of "art". I always explain to all the benighted in the world that
basically there is only good taste and bad taste when it comes to the arts.
Of course, my taste is impeccable and anyone who disagrees with me is
afflicted with bad taste.

What ultimately determines good taste though is the opinion of our betters.
Most Americans cannot accept this as it is profoundly anti-democratic. But
art has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with aristocracy.
What Beethoven thinks of music for instance matters (Beethoven's taste was
formed by the composers who preceded him and it was the taste of the
European aristocracy which was at the base of it all). What Joe Blow of
Chicago thinks of music does not matter in the slightest.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Mark Leuck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm expressing an opinion based on the known facts about the Bigha. Why
>>>>are you spending so much time and energy defending a bike about which
>>>>you claim to have no opinion? What is your real connection with Bigha?
>>>>
>>>> Lorenzo L. Love
>>>
>>>
>>>I find it odd you think everyone here has a connection with Bigha, wierd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You obviously have some sort of emotional investment in this bike.
>
>
> Not really, we could insert the words "Vision" for BigHa and I'd bet we'd
> have the same debate, again your problem really is with the company not the
> bike
>
>
>>You
>>say you never rode it,
>
>
>>True
>
>
>>I believe you said you would not buy one
>
>
> Also true with a reason unrelated to that particular bike, At this time I
> would not buy any other recumbent because as I said I have 2 now
>
>
>>you
>>claim to not have any opinion on it
>
>
> No never said that, I said I wouldn't judge a bike unless I ride it
>
>
>>, yet in post after post you attack
>>people who do have negative opinions of it.
>
>
> Only those with an irrational opinion
>
>
>>Apparently gushing over this
>>bike for no reason is fine with you
>
>
> I never gushed over it, I stated any review I've seen had an overall
> positive opinion about the bike in spite of the price and weight
>
>
>>but rational criticism of it based
>>on known indisputable data like price and weight is forbidden.
>
>
> Never was forbidden, what post said it was?
>
>
>>Why do
>>you care so much about this bike?
>
>
> Its not about the bike, its about your irrational hatred of the company that
> interests me, why do you care enough to respond with so far 30 messages
> about it?
>
>
>

Someone asked what people think of the Bigha. I answered them that I
think it is grossly overpriced for a 50 lb comfort bike. This is based
on publicly known information, right off of Bigha's own website. Are you
disputing Bigha's own data? If you are so wealthy or foolish with your
money that you do not think that $3000 is too much for a slow heavy
comfort bike, then that is your right to say so and make a fool of
yourself. But why do you find it necessary to repeatedly attack people
who have an opinion contrary to your's? I've stated what my opinion is
based on, why can't you do the same? If you have never rode this bike,
what do you base your opinion on, besides Bigha's own data? Why the
emotional investment in this bike? What connection do you have with Bigha?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

"One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully
self-assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for
competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize competence."
Erica Goode
 
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