Hi, New Girl here.



Originally Posted by Volnix


Are you projecting your worries about your self again?
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Where's "Alienator" ???
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I am a girl!!!! I am a she!!!!! Don't quote, dude.
 
Originally Posted by q2cycling .

What is wrong with you?


Sooo... A "Spam troll" huh? Well, that's pretty rare.
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Well, where to start... I guess it all started when I was going out with this Danish girl who was cycling a lot (and was "a bit" older then me
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I visited her and I was riding a bike that I picked from the street (that's what they do over there
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Then after she left me, (for student - lifestyle related reasons) and went to find her, I picked up a pain in the back and went a little "funny" in the head... You know... Just a little, "funny".
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" President Merkin Muffley: ahm... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny.
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After that...
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Originally Posted by q2cycling .

So nobody should promote products? Your mind is sooooooo narrow....


In forums? Well I guess that forums -are- a good source of info then, if you spammers are trying to sneak in...
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Originally Posted by q2cycling .

I guess that's why you love rap so much.


Actually I am more into this kind of stuff:
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But if you insist:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by q2cycling .
I am a girl!!!! I am a she!!!!! Don't quote, dude.



Hey, no probs... I've seen some of you "Dudesses"
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on the internet. Some of you look better then some of my ex's...
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Quote by q2c:
"But for the young generation, we don't act and think that communism like our parents any more...."

That's fantastic.

"What is Chicom system?""

An acronym for Chinese Communist.

Spamming is a Yankee Imperialist Lackey Capitalist Running Dog business tactic so welcome to our club. As long as you ride a bicycle you are among friends.
 
Have they updated to carbon fiber Yoeleo wheels on Wiels yet?



I always like your sport of team bicycle shooting.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB .
We only have short 4 and 8 year spans of communism here


This is sarcasm. President Obama isn't really a communist.

We do have communist parties, but they get virtually no votes because we're taught that it's unpatriotic.

Come to think of it...
CampyBob, which is less patriotic: not voting, or voting communist?
 
Quote by u2k:
"President Obama isn't really a communist."

That jug-eared moron most certainly is a Communist with a capital 'C'. Anyone that redistributes capital from working men to ghetto rats is a Communist. To each according to their needs...




"We do have communist parties, but they get virtually no votes because we're taught that it's unpatriotic."

Yeah...ummm, no. They have historically received few votes because our citizens were well educated about the evils of communism. Now, we live in a nation populated by Free **** Army morons.

"Come to think of it...
CampyBob, which is less patriotic: not voting, or voting communist?"

Throwing yourself into a wood chipper before voting for commies is patriotic.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
Quote by u2k:
"President Obama isn't really a communist."

That jug-eared moron most certainly is a Communist with a capital 'C'. Anyone that redistributes capital from working men to ghetto rats is a Communist. To each according to their needs...
He is redistributing healthcare, not capital. I suppose all basic services should be run like businesses.

My spouse may have been murdered, but I can't afford a murder investigation!
Crime Scene Forensics - $400
Missing Person Search - $800
Trial Against Murderer -- $300

M 7-year-old child wants to be a mathematician, but I can't afford primary school!
Teacher's annual income divided among 30 students = $1300
Bathroom and Drinking Fountain Use - $30
Ventilation and Lighting - $25
Building Maintenance - $20

I caught tuberculosis, but I can't afford medical care!
*sigh* I guess I don't need medical care. I can stay at home and infect my family...
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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB

"We do have communist parties, but they get virtually no votes because we're taught that it's unpatriotic."

Yeah...ummm, no. They have historically received few votes because our citizens were well educated about the evils of communism. Now, we live in a nation populated by Free **** Army morons.
We were taught about amoral, authoritarian, communist leaders. It does not follow from the existence of evil communists that communism is inherently evil.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill It does not follow from the existence of evil communists that communism is inherently evil.
Just because it doesn't follow doesn't change the fact that it's inherently evil. It's theft at its most basic level unless ALL participants voluntarily participate.
 
Even if it is stealing, stealing isn't always immoral.

Besides, I doubt that every public funded program was supported by every single person in the country.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
We were taught about amoral, authoritarian, communist leaders. It does not follow from the existence of evil communists that communism is inherently evil.
Did they tell you that the "communist system" as in contrast with "democracy" does not rely on elections to start running a country?

Communism goes into power only after revolution. Once in power they dont go away and there are no more elections.

The only reason "communist parties" participate in elections is so they get some money from the election system for running an election campaign, which is probably stolen or used for more sinister causes.

That is how it got into power in the various countries who were unlucky enough to have them.


Plus when they do that revolution, they dont rely in numbers, they rely in a forced change of the government due to violence and de-stabilization of the peace. Which explains the regular protests, marches, the various communism related terrorist organizations etc. Plus they get "all the help they can get", which is often illegal immigrrants etc.

In short, they are not nice people.


It's probably never gonna happen in the states, or Europe, allthough some more and more "red" parties start getting a significant percentage in elections around here. They start with some "lightly red" propaganda and once they get some chairs in the parliament then they start going into a more "flame red" shade. For example they start putting pressure in taxing the church etc.

Communism, like fascism, has its most power when people are in a crisis. The less "stable" people tend to "trust" fascism and communism when things go bad, as they think that it's gonna be a radical and fast progress to something better... It is not.

I am not sure about Spain, but in Greece for example the first party at the moment is the US equivalent of the "Republicans". Second party is a new "Red" party created by people from various communist parties. The third party, now that is funny, is some nazis. It's quite an old party and suddently they went from last, into the parliament.
Ofcourse as fascists do they were involved in various crimes and now there are some laws against them, but people still voted for them. I guess there are alot of crazy people...
All that happened just after the last party in power, the equivalent of the US Obama government I guess, kinda "lost" alot of borrowed money which led the country into a some bankruptcy-like situation. That will probably not happen over there though and the US Obama "spending" into the "healthcare" as you say is probably not worst then paying some mate-contractor to build a lot of ICBM silos that will never be used and get alot of people "working" in the army as a more right-wing government would do.

I would prefer a government that would create a very efficient and easy job searching system which would leave no people job-less.

They all have their own "style" of spending the money that is available to be spent.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
Even if it is stealing, stealing isn't always immoral.

Besides, I doubt that every public funded program was supported by every single person in the country.
Wow. Some examples, please on stealing NOT being immoral? Because I'm of the cut that it always is, by definition.

Public-funded programs are generally socialism. We're talking about communism. You know, where everyone is equal. Except for the leaders, who are a little (or a lot) more equal. Where the motto is, "We pretend to work, and the government pretends to pay us!"
 
Reality.

We have people that exceed even the average North Korean's ability to blot it out.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill


This is sarcasm. President Obama isn't really a communist.

We do have communist parties, but they get virtually no votes because we're taught that it's unpatriotic.

Come to think of it...
CampyBob, which is less patriotic: not voting, or voting communist?
Haha. Now I understand the span of 4-8 years of communism in US. Your president is a bit like socialist... He likes large government like our communist party. Haha.

And also I know US also has communist parties. How is the life for them?

Honestly, our generation we don't give a **** about the communist party. Actually we make a lot of jokes about it among internet...

Although our parents and grandparents, they are so communism...
 
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"He is redistributing healthcare, not capital. I suppose all basic services should be run like businesses."

Healthcare ain't free. It costs real money.

"My spouse may have been murdered, but I can't afford a murder investigation!"

Here's a "murder investigation. The shooter killed the murderer of his child...got 5 years probation for doing it.

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Have a pistol and a spine? Ammunition is cheap. OK...not so cheap any more.

"M 7-year-old child wants to be a mathematician, but I can't afford primary school!"

Homeschool. It's not MY responsibility to educate your spawn.

"I caught tuberculosis, but I can't afford medical care!"

We wiped it out. Screen immigrants Lock the borders down and mine a mile-wide strip next to them and the problem's solved.
 
Originally Posted by Volnix

Did they tell you that the "communist system" as in contrast with "democracy" does not rely on elections to start running a country?

Communism goes into power only after revolution. Once in power they dont go away and there are no more elections.

The only reason "communist parties" participate in elections is so they get some money from the election system for running an election campaign, which is probably stolen or used for more sinister causes.

That is how it got into power in the various countries who were unlucky enough to have them.


Plus when they do that revolution, they dont rely in numbers, they rely in a forced change of the government due to violence and de-stabilization of the peace. Which explains the regular protests, marches, the various communism related terrorist organizations etc. Plus they get "all the help they can get", which is often illegal immigrrants etc.

In short, they are not nice people.


It's probably never gonna happen in the states, or Europe, allthough some more and more "red" parties start getting a significant percentage in elections around here. They start with some "lightly red" propaganda and once they get some chairs in the parliament then they start going into a more "flame red" shade. For example they start putting pressure in taxing the church etc.

Communism, like fascism, has its most power when people are in a crisis. The less "stable" people tend to "trust" fascism and communism when things go bad, as they think that it's gonna be a radical and fast progress to something better... It is not.

I am not sure about Spain, but in Greece for example the first party at the moment is the US equivalent of the "Republicans". Second party is a new "Red" party created by people from various communist parties. The third party, now that is funny, is some nazis. It's quite an old party and suddently they went from last, into the parliament.
Ofcourse as fascists do they were involved in various crimes and now there are some laws against them, but people still voted for them. I guess there are alot of crazy people...
All that happened just after the last party in power, the equivalent of the US Obama government I guess, kinda "lost" alot of borrowed money which led the country into a some bankruptcy-like situation. That will probably not happen over there though and the US Obama "spending" into the "healthcare" as you say is probably not worst then paying some mate-contractor to build a lot of ICBM silos that will never be used and get alot of people "working" in the army as a more right-wing government would do.

I would prefer a government that would create a very efficient and easy job searching system which would leave no people job-less.

They all have their own "style" of spending the money that is available to be spent.
I don't know. Why I become to think you are a guy full of knowledge?!! I hate that!!
 
Originally Posted by Volnix

Did they tell you that the "communist system" as in contrast with "democracy" does not rely on elections to start running a country?

Communism goes into power only after revolution. Once in power they dont go away and there are no more elections.

The only reason "communist parties" participate in elections is so they get some money from the election system for running an election campaign, which is probably stolen or used for more sinister causes.

That is how it got into power in the various countries who were unlucky enough to have them.


Plus when they do that revolution, they dont rely in numbers, they rely in a forced change of the government due to violence and de-stabilization of the peace. Which explains the regular protests, marches, the various communism related terrorist organizations etc. Plus they get "all the help they can get", which is often illegal immigrrants etc.
Are communist states necessarily authoritarian?


You might have a point about the revolutions. At first I thought that was more of a Leninist idea, but it's not.

"In Marxism, proletarian revolutions happen all the time. In the Marxist view, proletarian revolutions will inevitably happen in all capitalist countries."
The whole plan—the gaining of proletariat support to strengthen the rebellion—seems to presuppose that the communist economic system is superior, that it should be favored by the proletariat.

Quote: For example they start putting pressure in taxing the church etc.

Do they want to tax all religious institutions, or just the ones that border on being political organizations?

I know that communists think religion will become obsolete, but that doesn't necessitate opposition to religion. The Chinese government found a communistic reason to allow some religious freedom.


Quote: they think that it's gonna be a radical and fast progress to something better... It is not.

I'm aware that communism can make life terrible by restricting consumers' options, but China seems to have a decent market despite its communism.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill I'm aware that communism can make life terrible by restricting the sorts of goods available, but China seems to have a decent market despite its communism.
We used to be so poor. Because at that time, we were very communism.
Right now, I think you guys can change the old perspective about China.
I think, communist is just the party. Like Republic, or Democratic.
And our communist party needs to change, or we will make them change.
Because we are not that stupid and that obedient any more.

So they still call their communist country or party, whatever.
But they seem to be willing to accept and change. So in the future,
I think our country will have two parties, I don't know. Because for the our generation,
we learn a lot about the outside world, especially your American culture. So when we
are old enough to take part in the politics, things will be different.
 
That was a fast response. I was still adding to the post.

Quote: And also I know US also has communist parties. How is the life for them?

They go unnoticed. Some of our intellectuals support socialism, but not communism.

Quote: Honestly, our generation we don't give a **** about the communist party. Actually we make a lot of jokes about it among internet...
Although our parents and grandparents, they are so communism...


Politics is always a spectrum. Certain things shouldn't be left to a completely free market. That's why the government gives everyone equal protection under the law, provides all children with basic education, regulates the food and medicine sold at stores, requires accurate nutrition information on foods, and so on.
I think everyone should have basic medical care too, and that's going to happen because of President Obama. I hope he did a good job planning it out. Of course the Republican party was 100% against "Obamacare". They're all free marketeers, and they're not concerned about poverty,