Has anyone been to www.abovetopsecret.com?

[Colorado Ryder]

That's correct - I dunno how Clinton prevented the largest attack on US soil between 1992-2000.

And I don't care (how Clinton prevented it) either.

Fact remains the largest attack on US soil since WWII happened under Bush's watch.

11th September 2001

Originally Posted by limerickman
Dunno.
Don't care either.

 

[limerickman]

It has been well established that the Clinton team during the transition informed the Bush people that AQ/OBL was in their opinion the greatest potential terrorist threat extant. Apparently, the Neo Cons would have none of it, because their agenda was much more than trying to prevent terrorism attacks.

We know now that BushCo had planned on invading Iraq before the election of 2000. Therefore, given the evidence and highly dubious official gov't version of the events of 9/11, it is clear that to the Bushites, 9/11 would be simply a convenient excuse to invade the Middle East: A'stan because they wanted the Unocal-proposed pipeline put in and protected, Iraq for it's oil reserves.

The side benefits were a long-term military presence in the heart of the Middle East, and the ability to claim "I'm a war preznit" at home for the '04 elections, where his coattails might help in getting more Rethugs elected to Congress, thus insuring their domestic agenda.

Bush was derelict in his duty between January 2001 and 11th September 2001.
He did not prevent 11th September 2001.
That dereliction of duty has continued since 11th September 2001 it has to be said with the illegal invasion of Iraq, the total recklessness of his management of the US economy.

 

[MountainPro]

did you know that apart from humans, the armadillo is the only other animal on the planet that can get leprosy?

also, and more interestingly, the UK is the only country in the world that doesnt have its country's name on their postage stamps. Instead is has an image of The Queen. This is because it was the first country to use postage stamps and therefore is credited with thier invention.

fascinating, no?

 

[limerickman]

did you know that apart from humans, the armadillo is the only other animal on the planet that can get leprosy?

also, and more interestingly, the UK is the only country in the world that doesnt have its country's name on their postage stamps. Instead is has an image of The Queen. This is because it was the first country to use postage stamps and therefore is credited with thier invention.

fascinating, no?

Indeed that is fascinating Pro - and let me tell you something else, it's pissing rain here too.
So expect some rain your way soon.

 

[Wurm]

Interesting how the Neo Con sheep here can't seem to address the gaping holes in the official account of 9/11. That their "president" and his administration are a pack of homicidal cretins doesn't seem to bother these fellow travellers.

 

[limerickman]

Interesting how the Neo Con sheep here can't seem to address the gaping holes in the official account of 9/11. That their "president" and his administration are a pack of homicidal cretins doesn't seem to bother these fellow travellers.

You're not going to get an answer from them this evening Wurm - they've both logged off from their employers PC's.

I can't say that I have read the 9/11 Commission Report but the reports of the commission report do seem to suggest that there are gaps in the story.

 

[MountainPro]

Indeed that is fascinating Pro - and let me tell you something else, it's pissing rain here too.
So expect some rain your way soon.

cheers for the heads up Lim,

just trying to lighten the mood...

 

[Wurm]

"Gaps in the story" is a gigantic understatement - that Commission was filled with former Bush & Reagan toadies, and as you may recall, Bush & Cheney testified in closed session instead of in the public forum, without being sworn under oath, and got to pick the questions they'd be asked. It was a sham and a hoax on the American public.

Take a look at David Ray Griffin's "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" and you'll see to what extent the charade was played out.

 

[limerickman]

"Gaps in the story" is a gigantic understatement - that Commission was filled with former Bush & Reagan toadies, and as you may recall, Bush & Cheney testified in closed session instead of in the public forum, without being sworn under oath, and got to pick the questions they'd be asked. It was a sham and a hoax on the American public.

Take a look at David Ray Griffin's "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" and you'll see to what extent the charade was played out.

Wurm - thanks for the link.

I use the term gaps in the story very loosely because I haven't read the report nor have I read any indepth analysis of the ommissions and errors in the commission report.

 

[lyotard]

afgahnis did come to dc to visit clinton in black limos, the deals for their resources were not to be cut to their liking. no preferential treatment was extended as to the "legit" govt's like the saudi's.

this ****** a lot of us supported "freedom fighters" off, just one of the instigating factors the us faces today.

for the us to fight terroism, it must look inward,
where are un sanctions ignored?
where is the us supporting anti arab military?
what punitive us sanctions are being applied?
where are oppresive gov'ts being given favored status for oil?
where is the us applying religious discrimination?
what are the human rights matters reported by amnesty international against the us?
how can an enemy be not of a nation but of "insurgents" within a nation?
how can the us truly want what is best for a nation yet refuse to cease occupation?
true diplomacy means more than coercing a "coalition of the willing" to invade and occupy under false pretense...

until these issues are addressed, the us cannot claim moral high ground as an example of freedom, and remains led by a quasi-imperialist fascist syndicate.

Yes Clinton did so well at apprehending the perpetrators that they came back and did it again. But then I guess that was another of your memory lapses.

 

[Colorado Ryder]

You're not going to get an answer from them this evening Wurm - they've both logged off from their employers PC's.

Yes I was using MY employers PC? Is that your standard retort Limmy?
Then that means instead of servicing your wife you'd rather spend your time out on the net.

 

[zapper]

Yes I was using MY employers PC? Is that your standard retort Limmy?
Then that means instead of servicing your wife you'd rather spend your time out on the net.

The net is his wife/life and of course anyting pertaiing to bush...Wait a minute...did I just say bush?

 

[Colorado Ryder]

I can't say that I have read the 9/11 Commission Report but the reports of the commission report do seem to suggest that there are gaps in the story.

C'mon Lim. Just give us all one, just one, example of what Clinton did to prevent 9/11. Just one little measly example of what Clinton did.

 

[limerickman]

I don't know how Clinton prevented the largest attack ever on US soil.

the fact of the matter is that the single largest attack on US soil since WWII
happened under your boys watch proves that your boy took his eye off the terrorist threat that did/does exist.
11th September 2001 : nine months in to the Bush presidency.

Q.E.D.

 

[Colorado Ryder]

I don't know how Clinton prevented the largest attack ever on US soil.

the fact of the matter is that the single largest attack on US soil since WWII
happened under your boys watch proves that your boy took his eye off the terrorist threat that did/does exist.
11th September 2001 : nine months in to the Bush presidency.

Q.E.D.

Really. So all those hijackers in the US training while your boy was president and I remind you that several FBI agents raised red flags that they were training in the US. Clinton did nothing to stop it. Oh thats right. Clinton warned Bush about it. Clinton knew about it but decided that he wouldn't do anything and passed the buck.

 

[limerickman]

Really. So all those hijackers in the US training while your boy was president and I remind you that several FBI agents raised red flags that they were training in the US. Clinton did nothing to stop it. Oh thats right. Clinton warned Bush about it. Clinton knew about it but decided that he wouldn't do anything and passed the buck.

nine months in the Presidency of your boy, your country suffered the largest attack on US soil since WWII.

You can ring your hangs and try to blame Clinton - the fact of the matter is that Clinton was out of office for 9 months prior to the attack.
Bush took his eye off the ball.

Q.E.D.

 

[Colorado Ryder]

nine months in the Presidency of your boy, your country suffered the largest attack on US soil since WWII.

You can ring your hangs and try to blame Clinton - the fact of the matter is that Clinton was out of office for 9 months prior to the attack.
Bush took his eye off the ball.

Q.E.D.

Clinton was in office for 8 years and did nothing about Al-Qaeda. 8 YEARS to do something. Anything. But nothing. 8 years of the 1st WTC, Khobar Towers, Afican embassies, Mogadishu, and the USS Cole. He never did a thing about Al-Qaeda. All Clinton did was tell Bush that those Al-Qaeda guys could be dangerous. But thats your boy.

 

[limerickman]

Clinton was in office for 8 years and did nothing about Al-Qaeda. 8 YEARS to do something. Anything. But nothing. 8 years of the 1st WTC, Khobar Towers, Afican embassies, Mogadishu, and the USS Cole. He never did a thing about Al-Qaeda. All Clinton did was tell Bush that those Al-Qaeda guys could be dangerous. But thats your boy.

First of all, I am not registered to vote in the USA, therefore I am not a democrat.
But you're a Republican.

What did Clinton do about Al Qaeda between 1992-2000 ?
he must have done something - cause Al Qaeda didn't create the largest attack on US soil since WWII between 1992-2000.

So instead of whinning on here about what clinton did or did not do, you ought to look at what your boy didn't do, which resulted in your country being directly attacked nine months in to his term of office.

 

[Colorado Ryder]

First of all, I am not registered to vote in the USA, therefore I am not a democrat.
But you're a Republican.

What did Clinton do about Al Qaeda between 1992-2000 ?
he must have done something - cause Al Qaeda didn't create the largest attack on US soil since WWII between 1992-2000.

So instead of whinning on here about what clinton did or did not do, you ought to look at what your boy didn't do, which resulted in your country being directly attacked nine months in to his term of office.

Ok. Since Clinton didn't do anything about Al-Qaeda for 8 years, We'll just totally dismiss that fact. Great logic from Limerickman.

 

[Wurm]

Not only 9/11, but let's talk about the Madrid, London, Istanbul, and Bali bombings, and the fact that GWB let OBL get away at Tora Bora. All on the Man-Ape's watch.

Bush is the worst president ever, and his "war against terrr" is a farce.