Discovery in disarray.... ?
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That’s because the diet of Americans is French fires and burgers.. the Europeans really know what food is about and how to cook it..... The fact that you think food in England is better than Europe means your lying.... England has the worst food preparation sanitation in the modern world !
Accept the facts that the DC riders had high hemocrit readings for a majority of the team and they were told to finish off the pace or get out of the race.....
DC are in disarray... if you don't believe it then stick with your "it was the hotels fault" and not that DC aren't the best prepared team in the world...... they couldn't organize a shag in a brothel at the moment....
I list the shambles that is Discovery 2006:
1. TommyD speaking out that he is the leader at the Giro.
2. Il Falco telling the world that he is the leader of the Giro and TommyD is a **** bike handler in the peleton.
3. Sean Yates speaking out against TommyD that he is also a **** bike handler.
3.1 Bruyneel telling the world that TommyD is leading the Giro and that he is the great white hope.
4. Hoste attacking his own team-leader in Flanders.
5. DeMol changing his story to why Hoste attacked… first of all it was “I have no farking idea why he did what he did” to “it was a tactic to bust up the lead group”.
6. DC with 3 riders in the break at PR and then losing the race through bad mechanical preparation, bad tactics and breaking the rules. Unacceptable.
7. Bruynnel undermining DeMol by riding in the team car at PR.
8. Azverdo and Beltran failing at TBC.
9. TommyD failing at TdG and not be able to contain a repent Floyd Landis.
10. The entire team at TdR suffering from alleged “food poisoning” – either drug induced or just bad planning again.
The list is endless….. the team is ready to implode and with the second highest budget in the ProTour they are likely to finish the year with no ProTour wins. What a dismal year it has been and one wonders why a wnner like Armstrong continues to have involvement with the team. He must be losing a fortune.
Accept the facts that the DC riders had high hemocrit readings for a majority of the team and they were told to finish off the pace or get out of the race.....
DC are in disarray... if you don't believe it then stick with your "it was the hotels fault" and not that DC aren't the best prepared team in the world...... they couldn't organize a shag in a brothel at the moment....
I list the shambles that is Discovery 2006:
1. TommyD speaking out that he is the leader at the Giro.
2. Il Falco telling the world that he is the leader of the Giro and TommyD is a **** bike handler in the peleton.
3. Sean Yates speaking out against TommyD that he is also a **** bike handler.
3.1 Bruyneel telling the world that TommyD is leading the Giro and that he is the great white hope.
4. Hoste attacking his own team-leader in Flanders.
5. DeMol changing his story to why Hoste attacked… first of all it was “I have no farking idea why he did what he did” to “it was a tactic to bust up the lead group”.
6. DC with 3 riders in the break at PR and then losing the race through bad mechanical preparation, bad tactics and breaking the rules. Unacceptable.
7. Bruynnel undermining DeMol by riding in the team car at PR.
8. Azverdo and Beltran failing at TBC.
9. TommyD failing at TdG and not be able to contain a repent Floyd Landis.
10. The entire team at TdR suffering from alleged “food poisoning” – either drug induced or just bad planning again.
The list is endless….. the team is ready to implode and with the second highest budget in the ProTour they are likely to finish the year with no ProTour wins. What a dismal year it has been and one wonders why a wnner like Armstrong continues to have involvement with the team. He must be losing a fortune.
hombredesubaru said:
Because of the European influence America has just as many fine dining establishments as anything Europe has to offer.whiteboytrash said:
Then explain to me what they were told today.... Hoste is currently leading and will lose it by a few places as the top riders come thru .....I just checked again ..... Hoste has beaten Contador by a good margin .. Did the race promoters tell Discovery to ride hard today?whiteboytrash said:
Yep did a great job our friend Hoste..... fnished 32 minutes down on GC and got second in the TT 'cos he was fresh as a daisy... the idea is to win the race not to bob up on one stage when you have been sitting at the back of the pack avoiding the drug testers for 15 stages.....wolfix said:
Off to have a burger at 3-mile island cafe now.... the burger was made from a cow with 3 heads... lekker !
solution (this could work with MLB -- Major League Baseball in the US, always in disarray over steroid use -- also)--
just let them take any drugs they want. then everyone's on the same level.
no money wasted on testing etc.
everyone knows that everyone else is doing anything possible to win.
some journalists and so-called journalists go on to other topics or just lose their jobs. no loss there.
no press conferences on did they or didnt they
no giving back medals or titles
no drug suspensions or banned-for-life
70kph ITT's
sure, some additional health problems down the road and some deaths.
but that's the risk of free will, innit?
just let them take any drugs they want. then everyone's on the same level.
no money wasted on testing etc.
everyone knows that everyone else is doing anything possible to win.
some journalists and so-called journalists go on to other topics or just lose their jobs. no loss there.
no press conferences on did they or didnt they
no giving back medals or titles
no drug suspensions or banned-for-life
70kph ITT's
sure, some additional health problems down the road and some deaths.
but that's the risk of free will, innit?
tcklyde said:
Yep, Abrakebabra is the place you're thinking off - they make kebabs served in tortilla/bread.
Very nice after a few pints, I agree!
Abrakebabra are a fast food business and they do nice food if you like fast food.
One of the nicest meals, I ever ate was in Naples Fla. in the Ritz Carlton Hotel
in Moorings restaurant.
The dish we had was sirloin of beef, done in a sauce with potatoes and veg.
It was magnificent - superb.
And for our hombre/bobke dual personality I would recommend a fantastic restaurant in the Beaugrannelle arrandisement 15 area, of Paris.
The restaurant is called Lola's on the Rue de Theatre.
Magnifique!
Lim -- "it's a small world". Naples is my hometown. During summers between college semesters, I was a construction worker with my father's business and we did all the fireproofing of the upper floors when they built the Ritz in the 80s. In the meantime, one of my best friends growing up is a graduate of the "CIA" -- not the one in Washington, but the Culinary Institute of America, which is recognized as one of the pre-eminent culinary schools on this side of the Atlantic. He was an executive chef at the Ritz for awhile, so depending upon when you visited there's some possibility he oversaw the meal you enjoyed. (I used to make excuses to show up at his house around mealtimes --- it was always worth it.)limerickman said:
When I was living in Naples and doing a lot more road cycling, I had a route that led from my house down along Gulfshore Blvd and millionaires row back up through Pelican Bay -- the turnaround point was the guardhouse at the Ritz's entrance, where I'd usually receive a high-five from the attendant on my way around. That was back when I could go out clubbing with my friends until 2:00 a.m. and get up at dawn and bike all morning. >>>sigh<<<
Generally speaking, I agree with you that good and bad food is to be found everywhere. I have an agreeable palate, meaning I'll eat most anything, and I love to "eat what the locals eat" wherever I go. Although we've had good luck with choosing restaurants when we're travelling in Europe, I confess I look forward more to shopping in a good local market and picking up some great bread, cheese, fruit, pate, etc., and eating al fresco somewhere on a park bench. Although I believe I can compare my country's culinary talents favorably to most others, I will admit that for some reason, we can't compare to most European countries when it comes to baking a great loaf of bread.
A humble sincere question about this topic and all the Jan related topics.
If DSC has a flop somewhere, does it mean that Lance competed the 2006 TDF and lost?
If Jan will loose this years' TDF, does it mean that Lance competed as well and won?
PS. DSC in terms of organization is pretty more Belgian than American. So, what about Belgian food and eateries?
If DSC has a flop somewhere, does it mean that Lance competed the 2006 TDF and lost?
If Jan will loose this years' TDF, does it mean that Lance competed as well and won?
PS. DSC in terms of organization is pretty more Belgian than American. So, what about Belgian food and eateries?
This should answer some of the questions about Discovery not supporting Savoldelli for the Giro. It would basically the same team LA would have had if he would have rode the TDF this year. Except Hincapie who obviously cannot be there.
Velonews.......
[size=-1]Savoldelli getting strong support at Giro
Defending champion Paolo Savoldelli will be counting on top support from his Discovery Channel teammates as he lines up Saturday to defend his Giro d'Italia title. [/size]
[size=-1]Savoldelli won his second Giro title last year using a mix of guile and depth to earn a surprise win against pre-race favorites Damiano Cunego and Ivan Basso. Once again, everyone seems to be looking to Cunego and Basso as the favorites, a tactic which plays well for Discovery Channel. [/size]
[size=-1]"We have the last winner of the Giro with Savoldelli, so we'll try to win it again. He's won it twice and he's proven that he's always good for the Giro. We'll be there for him," Discovery Channel sport director Johan Bruyneel told VeloNews. "It will be difficult. He's not another Armstrong. The course this year isn't ideal for him, but everyone said the same thing last year. If you go to the podium with Savoldelli, that's an objective." [/size]
[size=-1]Also lining up for Discovery Channel will be Tom Danielson, back to make a stronger run at the Giro after a knee injury forced him to pull out of last year's race. Jason McCartney is back from last year's winning team as well as Matt White. [/size]
[size=-1]The team comes stacked with Tour de France veterans Viatcheslav Ekimov, Manuel Beltrán, Pavel Padrnos and Chechu Rubiera to provide Savoldelli will excellent support.
Discovery Channel for Giro d'Italia
Velonews.......
[size=-1]Savoldelli getting strong support at Giro
Defending champion Paolo Savoldelli will be counting on top support from his Discovery Channel teammates as he lines up Saturday to defend his Giro d'Italia title. [/size]
[size=-1]Savoldelli won his second Giro title last year using a mix of guile and depth to earn a surprise win against pre-race favorites Damiano Cunego and Ivan Basso. Once again, everyone seems to be looking to Cunego and Basso as the favorites, a tactic which plays well for Discovery Channel. [/size]
[size=-1]"We have the last winner of the Giro with Savoldelli, so we'll try to win it again. He's won it twice and he's proven that he's always good for the Giro. We'll be there for him," Discovery Channel sport director Johan Bruyneel told VeloNews. "It will be difficult. He's not another Armstrong. The course this year isn't ideal for him, but everyone said the same thing last year. If you go to the podium with Savoldelli, that's an objective." [/size]
[size=-1]Also lining up for Discovery Channel will be Tom Danielson, back to make a stronger run at the Giro after a knee injury forced him to pull out of last year's race. Jason McCartney is back from last year's winning team as well as Matt White. [/size]
[size=-1]The team comes stacked with Tour de France veterans Viatcheslav Ekimov, Manuel Beltrán, Pavel Padrnos and Chechu Rubiera to provide Savoldelli will excellent support.
Discovery Channel for Giro d'Italia
- Paolo Savoldelli
- Benoît Joachim
- Manuel Beltrán
- Tom Danielson
- Jason McCartney
- Viatcheslav Ekimov
- Pavel Padrnos
- Chechu Rubiera
- Matt White
Do you think ?
Why does TommyD get his own line and not in the same paragraph is the backup team ?
This would be like: "Armstrong is back for his 8th Tour and is a strong showing for the podium with his 7 former Tour wins. This years Tour does not suit Armstrong but he will give it a shot anyway. Also Floyd Landis is riding hard for the Tour after being forced out of last years tour with knee injury. The support staff for the Giro are Beltran......" etc etc you get the picture.... this is hardly a clear picture on who is the leader of the team and who is ridng for whom is it now.....
Why does TommyD get his own line and not in the same paragraph is the backup team ?
This would be like: "Armstrong is back for his 8th Tour and is a strong showing for the podium with his 7 former Tour wins. This years Tour does not suit Armstrong but he will give it a shot anyway. Also Floyd Landis is riding hard for the Tour after being forced out of last years tour with knee injury. The support staff for the Giro are Beltran......" etc etc you get the picture.... this is hardly a clear picture on who is the leader of the team and who is ridng for whom is it now.....
wolfix said:
Why do Jason McCartney and Matt White get a seperate line from the backup team? Maybe they are being looked at as team leaders?whiteboytrash said:
Maybe Discovery needs 3 leaders to back Savoldelli if he gets the mysterious "Tour of Romandie" virus again?
Maybe it is written in Tommy D's contract he gets a seperate line in all Discovery's publicity releases.
Maybe the author of the article likes writing TommyD, TommyD.... Or he is dating Tommy D's sister or cousin....
So many questions and too few answers...... we will just have to wait and read the "Expose" book that Savoldeeli writes when he moves on .....
Well, at least DC have given Savoldelli a decent support crew this time. Not the best they could have given him (I guess Popovych and some others are off to Cataluyna to defend Popo's title there) but at least he has 3 strong climbers to support him as well as some firepower for the TTT. Still, it could have been a stronger squad.
four pure climbers who can also TT very well. Two big strong flats/TT powerhouses with loads of experience, Joachim and White are both very strong riders too... not sure exactly what their specialties are. That's a strong enough team if they ride in array as opposed to dis-array. I don't think WBT would be convinced of array any more than Musette will every admit she loves Jan but the actual truth will be revealed starting very soon. I still feel so much more up in the air about what might happen in the Giro than any other race... I guess that's why it's been so great to watch.
whiteboytrash said:
Parsing velo news articles to figure out what the team politics are? Come on! That stuff is produced for the audience, which in this case is a bunch of American cycling fans who want to hear about Americans.
This endless pissing match about whether Discovery cares about Savoldelli is about as tiresome as they come. Why don't we debate what Davitamon is doing with a TdF team full of people like Menchov, Rasmussen, E. & T. Dekker, Flecha, Boogerd, and Friere. Someone figure out the division of labor there.
Only time will tell and then we will know....... if for one minute the team splits into two camps then Bruyneel needs to be strung up by his gonads and let the Italian public throw rocks at his head..... I know Sean Yates is supporting Il Falco, I just hope the rest of the team is.
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