Re: OT Flame War



Edward Dolan wrote:

> ...All the politicians will be
> colored by then and go by names like Obama. God, I am so glad I will never
> live to see it. Death solves all problems, social as well as individual.


Does it bug you Mr. Dolan, that "morality nag" Keyes got trounced by the
largest margin of victory ever in a Illinois US Senate race by a liberal
politician? I certainly hope so. :)

--
Tom Sherman
Grateful to have had Obama to vote for, and more grateful that he won.
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>The news reported yesterday that right after the election the Canadian
>>Immigration website saw a 500% jump in inquiries from the U.S.
>>
>>Mark

>
>
> Q: What do you call 20,000 liberals moving to Canada?
>
> A: A good start


What do you call 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians?

Republican foreign policy. [NOT laughing]

--
Tom Sherman
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>The news reported yesterday that right after the election the Canadian
> >>Immigration website saw a 500% jump in inquiries from the U.S.
> >>
> >>Mark

> >
> >
> > Q: What do you call 20,000 liberals moving to Canada?
> >
> > A: A good start

>
> What do you call 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians?
>
> Republican foreign policy. [NOT laughing]


Tsk Tsk someone's been getting his news from The Guardian again :>)
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ogg Oggibly wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Sometimes I feel no one cares about these women and children. Frank Olson
>> doesn't seem to care. Tom Sherman doesn't seem to care....

>
> You should stop making mistaken assumptions like this, as it does not
> reflect well on your judgement.




Based on your response in this post I am assured my original judgement on
Tom Sherman was fully accurate. You find humor in 13 and 16 year old Muslim
girls suffering brutal deaths for "being less than chaste".

I have no respect for you at all. I have the same distain for you that I
reserve for Muslim holy men casting stones at girls. May you have an
unhappy life, which I sense you have already embarked upon.



>
>> ...The youth movement in Iran cares. I've read they were encouraged by
>> the Bush re-election and are secretly flashing the V for victory signs to
>> each other. Im sure they are hoping Americans will come and chase the
>> Mullahs back to the caves just as they did in Afghanistan....

>
> On what right-wing propaganda site or rag did you read this? Bush
> strengthened the position of the hard-liners in Iran greatly when he made
> his utterly ridiculous "Axis of Evil" statement.
>
> Iran has three times the population of Iraq and is much more unified
> culturally than Iraq. (After all it is a thousands of years old nation,
> and not a post WW1 creation of European colonials.) A US invasion would
> unite the people almost universally against the occupying forces. An
> occupation would be even less successful than in Iraq, because there would
> be much fewer collaborators available to purchase.
>
>> ...
>> Two months ago a 16 year old girl named Ateqeh Rajabi was hung to death
>> in the town square in the northern province of Mazandaran (Iran) by the
>> ayatollahs for the crime of "acts incompatible with chastity". At no
>> time did Miss Rajabi have access to a lawyer. During her "trial" Miss
>> Rajabi expressed outrage at the hatred of women and injustice in the
>> Islamic Republic and its Islam-based judicial system. The Muslim judge
>> was so incensed by her protestations that he personally put the noose
>> around her neck (photo available).

>
> See:
> <http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/how_long_to_hang_somebody/dt21_22.html>.
>
>> As you were doing you research Pete, a 13 year old girl named Zhila Izadi
>> is condemned to death by stoning after her father, a devout Muslim,
>> informed the authorities that his daughter had "disgraced" the family
>> honor by becoming pregnant by her 15 year old brother. Her brother's
>> punishment - a severe whipping.
>>
>> Pete why don't you send your research to13 year old Zhila in care of the
>> of the Islamic court in Marivan, Iran. I sure she would find your words
>> comforting as she contemplates kneeling in a field and having Muslim holy
>> men hurl large stones at her until she is dead....

>
> See:
> <http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_children/dt21_18a.html>,
> <http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_whole_family/dt13_06-08.html>.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman
> "Use your head, Mr. Ed" – Slugger
>
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> > ...All the politicians will be
> > colored by then and go by names like Obama. God, I am so glad I will

never
> > live to see it. Death solves all problems, social as well as individual.

>
> Does it bug you Mr. Dolan, that "morality nag" Keyes got trounced by the
> largest margin of victory ever in a Illinois US Senate race by a liberal
> politician? I certainly hope so. :)


Alan Keyes didn't get trounced because of morality issues, he had no chance
from the beginning. He was an import from the east coast because the
Illinois RNC couldn't find anyone else. It was moronic the way that process
panned out and obvious to me he was chosen as a warm body than what his
views were. This is not taking anything away from Obama who is about the
only decent candidate the Democrats had this year

With the momentum Obama had I doubt anyone put up against him had any chance
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> > ...
> > The Dems could not win anything anymore without the colored minorities

vote.
> > Are you a member of a colored minority? If you are, then go ahead and

vote
> > Democratic. They will best give you what you need. If you are not a

member
> > of a colored minority, then you need to rethink what the hell it is you

are
> > voting for when you vote Democratic. The way things are going, we Whites
> > will soon be a minority in this country and then we can all vote

Democratic
> > too along with the Blacks and the Indians and idiots like Mr.

Sherman....
>
> And it a good thing it will be too when Republicans stop winning
> elections on racism, homophobia and ignorance.


An even better thing when the left someday figures out the real reason why
they continue to lose elections
 
Mark Leuck wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...
>>>The Dems could not win anything anymore without the colored minorities

>
> vote.
>
>>>Are you a member of a colored minority? If you are, then go ahead and

>
> vote
>
>>>Democratic. They will best give you what you need. If you are not a

>
> member
>
>>>of a colored minority, then you need to rethink what the hell it is you

>
> are
>
>>>voting for when you vote Democratic. The way things are going, we Whites
>>>will soon be a minority in this country and then we can all vote

>
> Democratic
>
>>>too along with the Blacks and the Indians and idiots like Mr.

>
> Sherman....
>
>>And it a good thing it will be too when Republicans stop winning
>>elections on racism, homophobia and ignorance.

>
>
> An even better thing when the left someday figures out the real reason why
> they continue to lose elections[.]


Running "Republican Lite" candidates has been the real failure of the
Democratic Party. Kerry's biggest mistakes were voting, against his
better judgement) for the Iraq invasion and PATRIOT Act because it
seemed politically convenient at the time.

Russ Feingold voted against both measures, was targeted by the RNC, had
a well funded opponent, yet still won by 10% in a state that was almost
a virtual tie between Kerry and Shrub.

--
Tom Sherman
Feingold-Obama 2008
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Mark Leuck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The news reported yesterday that right after the election the Canadian
>>>>Immigration website saw a 500% jump in inquiries from the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>Q: What do you call 20,000 liberals moving to Canada?
>>>
>>>A: A good start

>>
>>What do you call 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians?
>>
>>Republican foreign policy. [NOT laughing]

>
>
> Tsk Tsk someone's been getting his news from The Guardian again[.] :>)


Actually the study was published in the Lancet, which is one of (if not
the most) highly respected peer-reviewed medical journals. There are
very few sources that are more unimpeachable - if the review panel had
felt the methodology was flawed or the interpretation biased, the
article would have been rejected.

--
Tom Sherman
Feingold-Obama 2008
 
Mark Leuck wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...All the politicians will be
>>>colored by then and go by names like Obama. God, I am so glad I will

>
> never
>
>>>live to see it. Death solves all problems, social as well as individual.

>>
>>Does it bug you Mr. Dolan, that "morality nag" Keyes got trounced by the
>>largest margin of victory ever in a Illinois US Senate race by a liberal
>>politician? I certainly hope so. :)

>
>
> Alan Keyes didn't get trounced because of morality issues, he had no chance
> from the beginning. He was an import from the east coast because the
> Illinois RNC couldn't find anyone else. It was moronic the way that process
> panned out and obvious to me he was chosen as a warm body than what his
> views were. This is not taking anything away from Obama who is about the
> only decent candidate the Democrats had this year[.]
>
> With the momentum Obama had I doubt anyone put up against him had any chance[.]


(Let the record show that Mark Leuck used periods at the end of three of
the five sentences in his post.)

And if the Democratic Party can reject the corporatist elements within
the party and choose more candidates like Obama, they will win many more
elections, as the Republicans rely on people staying home and not
voting, since the Republican policies favor only a small minority of the
population.

We can only be thankful we were spared the ridiculousness of Mike “Limp”
Ditka running for the Senate on a platform of social intolerance.

--
Tom Sherman
Grateful to have had Obama to vote for, and more grateful that he won.
 
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:54:51 GMT, "Mark Leuck" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>An even better thing when the left someday figures out the real reason why
>they continue to lose elections


ShHhHHH!!!!

Don't tell 'em, dammit!
 
Ogg Oggibly (a pseudonym, no doubt) wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Ogg Oggibly wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...
>>>Sometimes I feel no one cares about these women and children. Frank Olson
>>>doesn't seem to care. Tom Sherman doesn't seem to care....

>>
>>You should stop making mistaken assumptions like this, as it does not
>>reflect well on your judgement.

>
>
>
>
> Based on your response in this post I am assured my original judgement on
> Tom Sherman was fully accurate. You find humor in 13 and 16 year old Muslim
> girls suffering brutal deaths for "being less than chaste".
>
> I have no respect for you at all. I have the same distain for you that I
> reserve for Muslim holy men casting stones at girls. May you have an
> unhappy life, which I sense you have already embarked upon.


"Ogg Oggibly" (a pseudonym, no doubt) shows a lack of ability (in this
case at least) to comprehend anything beyond simplistic statements. If
he/she? thinks my post was intended in humor, he/she? has completely
missed the point.

Think about it for a while, and figure it out before you bother replying.

Sheesh.

--
Tom Sherman
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> > "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>...All the politicians will be
> >>>colored by then and go by names like Obama. God, I am so glad I will

> >
> > never
> >
> >>>live to see it. Death solves all problems, social as well as

individual.
> >>
> >>Does it bug you Mr. Dolan, that "morality nag" Keyes got trounced by the
> >>largest margin of victory ever in a Illinois US Senate race by a liberal
> >>politician? I certainly hope so. :)

> >
> >
> > Alan Keyes didn't get trounced because of morality issues, he had no

chance
> > from the beginning. He was an import from the east coast because the
> > Illinois RNC couldn't find anyone else. It was moronic the way that

process
> > panned out and obvious to me he was chosen as a warm body than what his
> > views were. This is not taking anything away from Obama who is about the
> > only decent candidate the Democrats had this year[.]
> >
> > With the momentum Obama had I doubt anyone put up against him had any

chance[.]
>
> (Let the record show that Mark Leuck used periods at the end of three of
> the five sentences in his post.)


Thanks for pointing that out, I'll change that lest Ed starts complimenting
me

> And if the Democratic Party can reject the corporatist elements within
> the party and choose more candidates like Obama, they will win many more
> elections, as the Republicans rely on people staying home and not
> voting, since the Republican policies favor only a small minority of the
> population.


The leaders of the party need to quit pandering to the fringe and become
more moderate, they do much better when they don't choose the usual liberals
who then try to pass themselves off to the rest of the country as moderate.
The only success they've had in the last 25 years is by a southern democrat
who appeared moderate and even then the mainstream party leaders didn't
accept him until late in the primaries when it was obvious he'd be the end
winner. I imagine in 2008 they'll try the same thing with Hillary

I agree partly about the statement with Obama but he is another liberal,
while he does an excellent job of communications, in the end his views
aren't that much different than the other leaders in his party and he will
have the same problems they currently have, also if he doesn't toe the exact
same line as the black leadership he won't get very far which is pretty sad
in my opinion

If this last election didn't teach them that the views they've been pushing
aren't popular then they will never learn (and I'm not referring to the
presidential election)


> We can only be thankful we were spared the ridiculousness of Mike “Limp”
> Ditka running for the Senate on a platform of social intolerance.


Hard to say how Ditka, we all know his actions on a football field but I
have no clue what his political views are and I seriously doubt he would
have gone very far against Obama no matter what
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> > An even better thing when the left someday figures out the real reason

why
> > they continue to lose elections[.]

>
> Running "Republican Lite" candidates has been the real failure of the
> Democratic Party. Kerry's biggest mistakes were voting, against his
> better judgement) for the Iraq invasion and PATRIOT Act because it
> seemed politically convenient at the time.


We could debate that all next year but my feeling is Kerry was no different
than Dukakis, Gore and McGovern, nominate the usual extreme lefty then pass
him off as a moderate, to bad they can't stomach going for a REAL moderate

Kerry also in my opinion voted for the invasion because he did support it
judging by his previous statements during the 90's, it was only after he
began running for president that his views suddenly "changed" although I
could be wrong about that

> Russ Feingold voted against both measures, was targeted by the RNC, had
> a well funded opponent, yet still won by 10% in a state that was almost
> a virtual tie between Kerry and Shrub.


Those two reasons may or may not be the reason Russ won, incumbents usually
have many other ways of winning, for example Senator Benson here in Texas
was a powerhouse for decades and would have been for many more had he not
became the VP candidate in 88 however as soon as he left his seat went to a
republican and has remained that way since.

Same with many retiring democrat senators in this election, almost all went
to the other party
 
"Zippy the Pinhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:54:51 GMT, "Mark Leuck" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >An even better thing when the left someday figures out the real reason

why
> >they continue to lose elections

>
> ShHhHHH!!!!
>
> Don't tell 'em, dammit!


It won't matter, even if they did figure it out they still won't break away
from the fringe elements, they don't have the backbone
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> "Peter Clinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>But "Islamic Law" is not Islam.

>>
>>
>> See, for example,
>> http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/s/sh/sharia.html which is
>> hardly a Muslim apologist site. Some selected quotes:
>>
>> "Traditional Islamic law is called Sharia or Shariah (?????). Like most
>> religious cultures, Islam classically drew no distinction between
>> religious and secular life. Hence Sharia covers not only religious
>> rituals, but many aspects of day-to-day life. However, this traditional
>> view of religious law is opposed by modern liberal movements within
>> Islam.
>>
>> What modern liberal movements? Certainly not in the Middle East. Most
>> definitely not in Saudi Arabia and Iran.
>>
>> The main sources of Islamic law are the Qur'an and the Hadith, but ijma,
>> the consensus of the community, was also accepted as a minor source.
>> Qiyas, reasoning by analogy, was used by the law scholars (Mujtahidun)
>> to deal with situations where the sources provided no concrete rules.
>> The practices called Sharia today, however, also have roots in local
>> customs (Al-urf)."
>>
>> ""Honor killings" are, in the Western world, often erroneously
>> identified as part of Islamic teaching, though they are in fact a
>> cultural practice which is neither exclusive to, nor universal within,
>> the Islamic world."
>>
>> A cultural pracitce that is sanctified by the religion! Of course it is
>> not universal as not everyone is crazy.
>>
>> "Like Jewish law and Christian canon law, Islamic law has no one, set
>> meaning for all times and places. In the hands of moderates, religious
>> law can be moderate, even liberal. In the hands of post-Englightenment
>> readers of philosophy, religious law is relegated to ritual (as opposed
>> to law in a civil sense), or even to just being history. In the hands of
>> fundamentalists, it becomes legally enforced against all people of a
>> faith, and even against all people that come under their control.
>> Islamic law to American Muslims in Dearborn, Boston, or Houston is a
>> very different thing than Islamic law to religious Muslims in Egypt,
>> Saudi Arabia, the Gaza Strip, western China, Nigeria[1], Indonesia, or
>> Pakistan. All of them are following Islamic law, yet it varies as much
>> as individual Muslims vary."
>>
>> We are only concerned with how it applies in the countries of the Middle
>> East since that is where all the terrorism is coming from. It is highly
>> amusing to me that Peter thinks Islam as it is found in the West is in
>> any way relevant. Please look up the word constrained. That is what Islam
>> is in the West. It is constrained.
>>
>> There is no liberalism at all to Islam. It is all nothing but
>> fundamentalism of the most primitive sort. At least that is what we are
>> having to deal with via the Middle East. Islam has never had a Martin
>> Luther. It is as primitive as the day it was born.
>>
>> Iran is going to be a very major problem in the near future if they do
>> not back down from their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Peter might apply
>> some attention to this problem instead of telling us what a civilized and
>> peace loving religion Islam is.

>
> Yo Ed,
>
> Fix your posting. The quote level marks are missing from the quoted
> portions of Peter Clinch's post. And remove the signature separator if you
> are going to quote someone else's signature and put new text after it.
>
> This is one of the more screwed up posts I have seen - almost as bad as
> AOL.


Tom, I think the screw up is at Peter's end, not mine. When you quote text
from an outside source, it does not always transfer as it should. I am not
going to spend time correcting any one else's posts. However, I do note
quotation marks around the text that Peter sent.

I think you are right about the signature separator and I will pay some
attention to that in the future by eliminating it entirely from within a
post.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Ogg Oggibly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Peter Clinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Peter Clinch wrote:
>
>> But "Islamic Law" is not Islam.

>
> See, for example,
> http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/s/sh/sharia.html which is
> hardly a Muslim apologist site. Some selected quotes:
>
> "Traditional Islamic law is called Sharia or Shariah (?????). Like most
> religious cultures, Islam classically drew no distinction between
> religious and secular life. Hence Sharia covers not only religious
> rituals, but many aspects of day-to-day life. However, this traditional
> view of religious law is opposed by modern liberal movements within
> Islam."
>
> This seems to contradict your Islamic Law is not Islam proposition.
>
> Those within liberal movements in Islamic Republics are having their
> throats slit.
>
> <snip>
>
> Pete wrote:
>
> ""Honor killings" are, in the Western world, often erroneously
> identified as part of Islamic teaching, though they are in fact a
> cultural practice which is neither exclusive to, nor universal within,
> the Islamic world."
>
> Regardless of what your research tells you, "Honor Killings" are condoned
> by Islamic governments and under Islamic law. What difference does your
> research make to those who have been murdered to preserve a Muslim man's
> "honor".
>
> <snip>
>
> I have a problem with the abuse of women and female children under Islam.
> You can write dissertation after dissertation on the wonderfulness of
> Islam and the horrors of Christianity and it won't change how I feel about
> this abuse one iota.
>
> Sometimes I feel no one cares about these women and children. Frank Olson
> doesn't seem to care. Tom Sherman doesn't seem to care. Peter Clinch
> doesn't seem to care. Feminist leaders don't seem to care. Americans
> don't seem to care. Europeans don't seem to care. Who does care?


Ed Dolan cares and I would take all these God Damn Holy ****ing Muslims and
give them their own medicine; I would stone them to death, the dirty rotten
bastards! Especially the clerics. I think they call them ayatollahs in Iran.
The dirty rotten bastards! **** ISLAM ALL THE WAY TO HELL AND BACK!

> Amnesty International cares. Mrs. Shirin Ebadi cares. She is an Iranian
> lawyer who possesses the personal courage to speak out against these
> atrocities. Mrs. Ebadi is the first Iranian and Muslim female to win the
> Nobel Peace Award for 2003. She is at tremendous risk. I hope they don't
> kill her. The youth movement in Iran cares. I've read they were
> encouraged by the Bush re-election and are secretly flashing the V for
> victory signs to each other. Im sure they are hoping Americans will come
> and chase the Mullahs back to the caves just as they did in Afghanistan.
>
> Two months ago a 16 year old girl named Ateqeh Rajabi was hung to death in
> the town square in the northern province of Mazandaran (Iran) by the
> ayatollahs for the crime of "acts incompatible with chastity". At no time
> did Miss Rajabi have access to a lawyer. During her "trial" Miss Rajabi
> expressed outrage at the hatred of women and injustice in the Islamic
> Republic and its Islam-based judicial system. The Muslim judge was so
> incensed by her protestations that he personally put the noose around her
> neck (photo available).
>
> As you were doing you research Pete, a 13 year old girl named Zhila Izadi
> is condemned to death by stoning after her father, a devout Muslim,
> informed the authorities that his daughter had "disgraced" the family
> honor by becoming pregnant by her 15 year old brother. Her brother's
> punishment - a severe whipping.
>
> Pete why don't you send your research to13 year old Zhila in care of the
> of the Islamic court in Marivan, Iran. I sure she would find your words
> comforting as she contemplates kneeling in a field and having Muslim holy
> men hurl large stones at her until she is dead.
>
> Ogg O
>
> P.S. Pete do you by any chance have daughters of you own?


Ogg, all liberals are ****ing idiots. In fact, "liberal idiot" is all one
word. They are off in la-la land and are lost to rational discussion. I have
nothing but the utmost contempt and hatred for them. I call them out for
what they are - cowards and traitors to Western Civilization and to
Christendom (one and the same).

Kerry never had a clue about anything and neither does Mr. Sherman and his
ilk. The important thing is never to accord them any respect at all. We are
at war with them almost as much as we are at war with Islam. I go to bed at
night cursing the lot of them more and more with every breath I take. If I
could say a prayer, it would be that God should strike them all dead for
being the spawn of the Devil.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ogg Oggibly wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Sometimes I feel no one cares about these women and children. Frank Olson
>> doesn't seem to care. Tom Sherman doesn't seem to care....

>
> You should stop making mistaken assumptions like this, as it does not
> reflect well on your judgement.


Ogg has got it exactly right. Your kind of thinking leads to the stoning of
girls in Muslim lands. What would you do about it? Nothing of course. Just
the same way that you would have done nothing about Sadaam's Iraq. Thank God
no one, but no one, listens to fools like you.

>> ...The youth movement in Iran cares. I've read they were encouraged by
>> the Bush re-election and are secretly flashing the V for victory signs to
>> each other. Im sure they are hoping Americans will come and chase the
>> Mullahs back to the caves just as they did in Afghanistan....

>
> On what right-wing propaganda site or rag did you read this? Bush
> strengthened the position of the hard-liners in Iran greatly when he made
> his utterly ridiculous "Axis of Evil" statement.


The only thing that is"utterly ridiculous" is you. You also no doubt did not
appreciate Reagan's statement about the "evil empire" as applied to the
Soviet Union. I wonder how it feels to always be on the wrong side of
history. Only Mr. Sherman can answer that question as that is where he has
been all of his life.

> Iran has three times the population of Iraq and is much more unified
> culturally than Iraq. (After all it is a thousands of years old nation,
> and not a post WW1 creation of European colonials.) A US invasion would
> unite the people almost universally against the occupying forces. An
> occupation would be even less successful than in Iraq, because there would
> be much fewer collaborators available to purchase.


Everything is going very well in Iraq, no thanks to you and your ilk. We
could flatten Iran the same way we flattened Iraq, and just as fast too.
[...]

Nobody is going to look up your links because you do not have any
credibility with reasonable folks. You are a nut case pure and simple and
that is how we shall treat you. You actually belong in an asylum for the
insane.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ogg Oggibly (a pseudonym, no doubt) wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Ogg Oggibly wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>...
>>>>Sometimes I feel no one cares about these women and children. Frank
>>>>Olson doesn't seem to care. Tom Sherman doesn't seem to care....
>>>
>>>You should stop making mistaken assumptions like this, as it does not
>>>reflect well on your judgement.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on your response in this post I am assured my original judgement on
>> Tom Sherman was fully accurate. You find humor in 13 and 16 year old
>> Muslim girls suffering brutal deaths for "being less than chaste".
>>
>> I have no respect for you at all. I have the same distain for you that I
>> reserve for Muslim holy men casting stones at girls. May you have an
>> unhappy life, which I sense you have already embarked upon.

>
> "Ogg Oggibly" (a pseudonym, no doubt) shows a lack of ability (in this
> case at least) to comprehend anything beyond simplistic statements. If
> he/she? thinks my post was intended in humor, he/she? has completely
> missed the point.
>
> Think about it for a while, and figure it out before you bother replying.


You ought to know by now that I for one will never go to a link of yours
unless I get a full and complete explanation of what I will find there.

In any event, it is not adequate to respond to what Ogg had written with
links. You needed to say something directly to what he had said. Or can't
you tell a good and profound post like Ogg's from the usual rotten **** that
you and I write to one another. If you can't, then maybe it is time for you
to leave this group and join one of those other forums like Monkey Island
which is nothing but ****, ****, ****.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Mark Leuck wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The news reported yesterday that right after the election the Canadian
>>>>>Immigration website saw a 500% jump in inquiries from the U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Q: What do you call 20,000 liberals moving to Canada?
>>>>
>>>>A: A good start
>>>
>>>What do you call 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians?
>>>
>>>Republican foreign policy. [NOT laughing]

>>
>>
>> Tsk Tsk someone's been getting his news from The Guardian again[.] :>)

>
> Actually the study was published in the Lancet, which is one of (if not
> the most) highly respected peer-reviewed medical journals. There are very
> few sources that are more unimpeachable - if the review panel had felt the
> methodology was flawed or the interpretation biased, the article would
> have been rejected.


What the **** would a medical journal know about anything other than
strictly medical subjects. Good thinking, Tom!

> Tom Sherman
> Feingold-Obama 2008


Since we are off-topic and just throwing **** at one another, your Obama
**** is OK, but I do not want to see it on on-topic posts.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> ...All the politicians will be
>> colored by then and go by names like Obama. God, I am so glad I will
>> never live to see it. Death solves all problems, social as well as
>> individual.

>
> Does it bug you Mr. Dolan, that "morality nag" Keyes got trounced by the
> largest margin of victory ever in a Illinois US Senate race by a liberal
> politician? I certainly hope so. :)


My brother (he lives in a Chicago suburb) tells me that the Illinois
Republicans are the most ****ed up party in the entire country. He must be
right if someone like Obama could win there. Ah, for the good old days of
Senator Dirkson.

By the way, the question of abortion is not a minor matter, but is in fact a
very major matter. Keyes is quite correct to say what he does say about it.
It is my understanding that very many abortions are done on black women,
almost to the tune of 20 million over the past few years. I wonder if Obama
is for abortion?

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota