"Peter Clinch" <
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Peter Clinch wrote:
> But "Islamic Law" is not Islam.
See, for example,
http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/s/sh/sharia.html which is
hardly a Muslim apologist site. Some selected quotes:
"Traditional Islamic law is called Sharia or Shariah (?????). Like most
religious cultures, Islam classically drew no distinction between
religious and secular life. Hence Sharia covers not only religious
rituals, but many aspects of day-to-day life. However, this traditional
view of religious law is opposed by modern liberal movements within Islam.
What modern liberal movements? Certainly not in the Middle East. Most
definitely not in Saudi Arabia and Iran.
The main sources of Islamic law are the Qur'an and the Hadith, but ijma,
the consensus of the community, was also accepted as a minor source.
Qiyas, reasoning by analogy, was used by the law scholars (Mujtahidun)
to deal with situations where the sources provided no concrete rules.
The practices called Sharia today, however, also have roots in local
customs (Al-urf)."
""Honor killings" are, in the Western world, often erroneously
identified as part of Islamic teaching, though they are in fact a
cultural practice which is neither exclusive to, nor universal within,
the Islamic world."
A cultural pracitce that is sanctified by the religion! Of course it is not
universal as not everyone is crazy.
"Like Jewish law and Christian canon law, Islamic law has no one, set
meaning for all times and places. In the hands of moderates, religious
law can be moderate, even liberal. In the hands of post-Englightenment
readers of philosophy, religious law is relegated to ritual (as opposed
to law in a civil sense), or even to just being history. In the hands of
fundamentalists, it becomes legally enforced against all people of a
faith, and even against all people that come under their control.
Islamic law to American Muslims in Dearborn, Boston, or Houston is a
very different thing than Islamic law to religious Muslims in Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, the Gaza Strip, western China, Nigeria[1], Indonesia, or
Pakistan. All of them are following Islamic law, yet it varies as much
as individual Muslims vary."
We are only concerned with how it applies in the countries of the Middle
East since that is where all the terrorism is coming from. It is highly
amusing to me that Peter thinks Islam as it is found in the West is in any
way relevant. Please look up the word constrained. That is what Islam is in
the West. It is constrained.
There is no liberalism at all to Islam. It is all nothing but fundamentalism
of the most primitive sort. At least that is what we are having to deal with
via the Middle East. Islam has never had a Martin Luther. It is as primitive
as the day it was born.
Iran is going to be a very major problem in the near future if they do not
back down from their pursuit of nuclear weapons. Peter might apply some
attention to this problem instead of telling us what a civilized and peace
loving religion Islam is.
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Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Screw all the above signature. I have come to hate every word of it. Peter
Clinch is an ego maniac. For all I know he may very well be a Muslim too.
That would account for his stupidity.
