P,1,2 Dope Testing

"Jay Beattie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Jay Beattie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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They are company owned. The idea was to open stores where

people

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were smart, but broke. Like college towns and urban

bohemias.

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The have gotten pretty trendy over that last couple of

decades

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and are now showing up in upscale suburbs. My uncle Joe is
Trader Joe (Joe Coloumbe), and the stores started as Pronto
Markets in L.A. in the early 60s -- kind of like a 7-11 with

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wine section. No Slurpees, which bummed me out as a kid. --

Jay

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Beattie.

Tell Uncle Joe he needs one in Ft Smith, Arkansas.

He sold out in the late '80s, and I doubt they listen to him any
more (long story). I was going to make a lame joke about
Arkansas, but you know, with the UofA and a fairly sizeable
population, Ft Smith probably fits the TJ model. Lowest cost of
living in the U.S.A.? Damn. I'm moving. -- Jay Beattie.

9.25% (cumulative) sales tax, too!

"Jay Beattie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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He sold out in the late '80s, and I doubt they listen to him any
more (long story). I was going to make a lame joke about
Arkansas, but you know, with the UofA and a fairly sizeable
population, Ft Smith probably fits the TJ model. Lowest cost of
living in the U.S.A.? Damn. I'm moving. -- Jay Beattie.

My ex-wife (yes, the one who bought her way onto USCF board of directors by
sending out central section licensees a postage paid ballot with her own
name already checked off and largely funded the Walmart cycling team) is
helping to create that lowest cost of living. When she and three of her
children were evicted from her house last year, the house sold at auction
for about $310K, giving the new owner about $90K in free equity!

"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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That's interesting. I find the TJs out here to be pretty inexpensive -
certainly more so than Whole Foods. I'd never buy fruit, vegetables or

meat

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at TJ (mostly due to being a local at a grocery store that's 15 miles from
home (HA!) where I've gotten to know people in the four departments that
count: deli, bakery, meat and vegetable - I think I end up getting better
merchandise and service because of that). But there are some things at TJ
that you can't beat the price on, like olive oils, vinegars or wine (which
I do more cooking with than drinking).

Unless you're in a coastal area, they have a pretty decent selection of fish
too, albeit frozen. I also like that most of TJ's products have only natural
ingredients. The only local 'natural food' store in the area is considerably
more expensive than TJs or Wild Oats (Whole Foods equivalent). The two
closest Wild Oats stores to me are 125 and 150 miles away.

I like TJs for their sauces, tapenades, etc. I just enjoyed chicken with
TJ's Thai Green Curry Simmer Sauce for lunch!

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Howard Kveck said:

But there are some things at TJ
that you can't beat the price on, like olive oils, vinegars or wine (which
I do more cooking with than drinking).

Coffee beans.

2 buck chuck

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"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Cripes, where do you live? There is a trader joes website which lists
the stores. I know they're as far east as Michigan.
http://www.traderjoes.com/

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I've seen the website and it's frustrating, damn frustrating they don't have
a mail order division I tell you. Hell, they can keep the 2 Buck for all I
care, it's the other private label TJ stuff I mainly want.

If you look at the locations, you'll notice there is a big hole in the
central and southern parts of the US. Even if you lived in Denver, your
closest store would still be Santa Fe, NM.

A few years ago there were no TJs on the east coast, now they're all over,
though liquor laws sometimes keep them from selling wine, which kinda
misses the point.

My local Trader Joe's has just stopped carrying their regular, Italian-made,
pasta. This is a problem, since that's basically all I eat [*]. Now they
only have a couple of kinds of heavy-looking organic whole wheat spaghetti.
How can a store not carry a full shelf of pasta? It must be the fault of the
low-carb zombies - they have some ridiculous "low carb-friendly" spaghetti.
WTF? A curse on the memory of Dr. Atkins!!!

It's enough to force me to leave California. Of course, I'm going to move
someplace that isn't too far from a Trader Joe's. You can only take a
stand on principle so far.

[*] I have a balanced diet - I eat fettucine, fusilli, ditalini AND penne.

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Man. That's sad. TJ's just took over a big failing grocery in downtown
Santa Cruz, ...

Which one?

Zanotto's

Coincidentally, one of the founders of that landmark just died

<http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/August/10/local/stories/08local.htm>

I don't think there's a connection, though.

Okay, thanks. I didn't shop there too often. I did buy for some time
at Shopper's Corner, but they aren't quite downtown. Sad news on Penny
Zanotto.