Is road cycling dangerous?

CAMPYBOB · Jan 29, 2015

Thanks for the update, mpre53.

15-40 in my state would translate into a likely 3-5 years and then on paper for the rest of her life. I hope they suspended her driving privileges for the rest of her life.

Froze, you can't possibly be serious.

jhuskey · Jan 29, 2015

Originally Posted by Froze
It's only dangerous to those who get injured or killed but if you do get killed the risk of being killed a second time drops dramatically .

There I fixed it for you.

Froze · Jan 29, 2015

Originally Posted by jhuskey
There I fixed it for you.

LOL!! This is the first fix I've ever laughed about!! Usually it's some english cop giving out citations.

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

http://www.london24.com/news/female_cyclist_killed_in_amhurst_park_stamford_hill_1_3923151

A female cyclist has died after a crash in Amhurst Park, Stamford Hill.

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The woman, aged 29, was hit by a lorry. A spokesman for London Ambulance said: â€œWe were called at 8am this morning to reports of a road traffic collision involving a bike at the junction of Bethune Road and Amhurst Park in N16.

â€œWe sent an ambulance crew and two duty officers to the scene. Sadly, the patient was dead at the scene.â€

Next of kin have been informed but officers await formal identification.

The driver of the lorry stopped at the scene and has arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. He has since been released on bail pending further enquiries.

A post-mortem examination will take place tomorrow at Hackney Mortuary

Officers are appealing for anyone who witnessed the collision to call police on 020 8597 4874.

Froze · Jan 30, 2015

I don't understand this need to propagate fear, we find this with the media and we find it here on this forum. People die every day, they die driving their cars, die walking, and they will continue to die, so what? What purpose is there in promoting these news stories and images? Are you trying to scare people from riding their bikes? Humans have enough fears without being thrown stories of people dying from various activities. I've known, and still know people to this day that won't ride a bike because of the fear of dying, and all you chuckleheads are doing is pounding that fear into some people who are on this forum who are already sort of scared of riding in traffic, when in reality such accidents are not all that common! But because they see these news stories from all over the world it appears as if riding in the streets is the slaughter fields for cyclists.

I understand that propagating fear in the media sells, but we're not trying to sell this forum we're suppose to be selling the need to cycle, so instead of promoting negatives of riding a bike let us concentrate on positives, this would go a lot further with already scared cyclists than showing this sort of garbage.

jhuskey · Jan 30, 2015

I don't shy away from the more dangerous things I do from fear of dying, I participate in those activities from the fear of not living.
Feel free to quote me.

Froze · Jan 30, 2015

Originally Posted by jhuskey
I don't shy away from the more dangerous things I do from fear of dying, I participate in those activities from the fear of not living.
Feel free to quote me.

Exactly!!

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

Just another isolated incident...unless you are the one on the way to the morgue...

Cyclist killed in Friday morning crash in Pittsfield Township

A cyclist was killed Friday morning near the intersection of Textile and State Streets in Pittsfield Township. (Ben Freed | The Ann Arbor News)

A male cyclist was pronounced dead at University of Michigan Hospital following a crash with a car Friday morning.

File | The Ann Arbor News Huron Valley Ambulance spokeswoman Joyce Williams said the ambulance service responded to a call at 6:38 a.m. near the corner of State Street and Textile Road south of Ann Arbor.

The patient had been hit by a car and was taken in critical condition to U-M hospital where he was later pronounced dead. The driver of the car was transported in stable condition to St. Joseph's Mercy Hospital.

Pittsfield Township police and fire crews responded to the scene and shut down State Street at Textile to perform an investigation. That investigation was ongoing at 9 a.m. Friday morning and the intersection was reopened as of 9:30 a.m.

Ben Freed is a general assignments reporter for The Ann Arbor News. Email him at [email protected] and follow him on twitter at @BFreedinA2. He also answers the phone at 734-623-2528.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/01/cyclist_killed_in_friday_morni.html

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

Isolated mayhem in Flowduh...

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/deadline-miami/article7852698.html

Motorist charged with hit-and-run after two bicyclists are hit in Key Biscayne, killing one
By Andres Viglucci
And Rebecca Savransky
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01/21/2015 8:10 AM
01/22/2015 8:05 PM

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â€º â€¹ Miami-Dade Traffic Homocide Detective Sgt. Dave Greenwell looks over the scene where two bicyclists were hit by a 2014 VW Jetta on the eastbound Rickenbacker Causeway east of the Bear Cut bridge, Wednesday, Jan 21., 2015. WALTER MICHOT MIAMI HERALD STAFF

A college student from Key Biscayne was arrested on drunk-driving and manslaughter charges after police say he struck two cyclists on Crandon Boulevard early Wednesday, killing one and seriously injuring the other before driving off.
Alejandro Alvarez, 21, a University of Maryland student who said he had been out all night at a Miami Beach club, turned himself in after having second thoughts about fleeing, Miami-Dade police said in an arrest affidavit released late Wednesday. Alvarez returned to the site of the collision some 20 minutes later and, while crying â€œhysterically,â€ admitted he had hit the cyclists, police said.
Cyclist Walter Reyes, 50, CFO at the South Florida real-estate firm Keyes Company, was pronounced dead at the site of the collision, which occurred at 5:22 a.m. in the southbound portion of the road about half a mile past the Crandon Park Marina. His cycling companion, Coral Gables attorney Henry Hernandez, was taken to Mercy Hospital in serious condition.
Police say Reyes and Hernandez were riding in the marked bike lane where the road curves towards the village of Key Biscayne when Alvarez passed other vehicles, drove into the bike lane and hit both cyclists. Alvarez, who said he was looking at his iPhone to change a song when he swerved into the cyclists, told police he was â€œscaredâ€ and drove home to Harbor Drive in Key Biscayne.

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Cyclistâ€™s death in Key Biscayne spotlights needed road protections Key Biscayne driver who sparked hit-and-run law sent to prison Miami woman proves running good for (broken) heart Gov. Scott signs tougher penalties for hit-run drivers State Senate approves Aaron Cohen Life Protection Act
The windshield of the motoristâ€™s gray 2014 Volkswagen Jetta bore two large indentations, suggesting the cyclists were hit hard enough to be sent flying. The grass off to the right of the showed tire marks, indicating the motorist drove off the pavement before taking off, leaving the severely injured cyclists prone on the road.
Both menâ€™s bikes were equipped with bright front and rear lights, as required by law when riding after dark, photos of the bikes show. The rear red light on Reyesâ€™ Cannondale bike was still flashing hours later as it lay in the road while police investigated.
Reyesâ€™ is the third hit-and-run death of a cyclist on the road to Key Biscayne â€” the most popular cycling route in Miami-Dade County â€” in five years, and seems certain to prompt renewed calls for long-promised, but only partly implemented, safety improvements along Crandon and the Rickenbacker Causeway.
â€œItâ€™s just tragic,â€ said Miami architect Bernard Zyscovich, who has been pushing county officials to speed up improvements for cyclists and pedestrians along the causeway since the 2012 hit-and-run death of triathlete and businessman Aaron Cohen on the William Powell Bridge. â€œItâ€™s so frustrating. Itâ€™s bordering now on issues of culpability. If we spend some money, we could solve it right away. Thatâ€™s the call to action we need to make.â€
Cohenâ€™s death, and a light sentence of less than two years given to the motorist who killed him, prompted an outcry from cyclists and a successful campaign to make penalties mandatory for motorists who leave the scene of an accident. Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez also pledged to make extensive safety improvements to the roadway, though advocates say they have been slow to be implemented and donâ€™t do enough to protect cyclists and pedestrians.

In 2010, cyclist Christophe LeCanne was struck from behind and killed by a drunken driver while riding in the bike lane on Bear Cut Bridge, which connects Virginia Key and Key Biscayne.
The stretch of Crandon along which Reyes and Hernandez were struck has long been scheduled for a makeover that would widen the bike lanes and narrow the two automobile lanes to slow speeding cars and provide greater separation from motorized traffic for cyclists. Some advocates have also called for a physical barrier, like a curb or low wall, to protect cyclists on the road.
But the work was delayed by the emergency reconstruction of the Bear Cut Bridge last year, and is now supposed to happen this coming spring, according to county public works officials.
Gimenez issued a statement after Wednesdayâ€™s fatal collision expressing condolences to Reyesâ€™ family and pledging to complete safety improvements along the causeway.
â€œI want to reiterate that the safety of all of our pedestrians, bicyclists and our traveling public is of the utmost importance and is a top transportation priority,â€ Gimenez said in his statement.

Reyes had been training for next monthâ€™s Dolphins Cycling Challenge, a two-day event that raises money for the University of Miamiâ€™s Sylvester Comprehensive Cancer Center. He was leader of Keyesâ€™ team for the event.
â€œOur hearts are with Walter Reyes' family & the entire @ridedcc community. We are deeply saddened, but forever grateful for his support. #RIP,â€ the cancer center tweeted.
Police charged Alvarez with leaving the scene of a crash involving a death and a serious injury, DUI manslaughter and DUI serious injury to another.
In the arrest affidavit, police say Alvarez smelled strongly of alcohol, was slurring his speech, had blood-shot eyes and was â€œhysterically cryingâ€ when he returned to the scene of the collision. There he approached a Key Biscayne officer, saying, â€œIt was me, I was the one that was involved in the accident.â€
But Alvarez denied he was drinking and, after failing a roadside sobriety test, refused to consent to a blood sample. Paramedics drew several blood samples after obtaining a warrant. After he was taken to the homicide bureau, police say, Alvarez said he had been out at a Beach club until 4:30 a.m.
After hitting the cyclists and going home, Alvarez told police, he tried smashing the Jettaâ€™s rear window with a golf club to â€œfake a robbery,â€ but thought better of it and called 911. The operator told him to return to the scene and turn himself in.
All three fatalities on the road to Key Biscayne, safety advocates note, have been eerily similar â€” occurring early in the morning, when many serious cyclists ride to the key, but also when some people are driving back home to the island after a night of partying. In all three cases, police said the cyclists were riding legally and safely in designated, marked bike lanes when they were struck from behind.
In February 2012, Key Biscayne resident Michele Traverso fled home after striking Cohen and a fellow cyclist, who suffered a broken leg. Although police suspect he had been drinking, they could not prove he was impaired because he didnâ€™t turn himself in until the next day.
The Aaron Cohen Act, approved by the Florida Legislature last year, imposed a mandatory-minimum prison sentence of four years for drivers convicted of leaving the scene of a fatal crash. It also boosted the mandatory-minimum prison sentence from two years to four years for a DUI driver who leaves a fatal crash scene.
Both could apply to Alvarez in Wednesdayâ€™s collision.
In an odd twist, a Miami-Dade judge in December sent Traverso to prison for 28 more months after his probation officer caught him on the beach outside his Key Biscayne condo, where he was serving house arrest.
In the LeCanne case in January 2010, aspiring pop singer Carlos Bertonatti dragged the manâ€™s crumpled bike for two miles through Key Biscayne before police caught up with him. Bertonatti, who was drunk after a night of partying at Club Space in downtown Miami, was sentenced in 2013 to 12 years in prison.

Cyclist Killed, Another Injured On Rickenbacker Causeway Cyclist Killed, Another Injured On Rickenbacker Causeway CBS Miami

Cyclist Killed, Another Injured On Rickenbacker Causeway
Cyclist Killed, Another Injured On Rickenbacker Causeway CBS Miami

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/deadline-miami/article7852698.html#storylink=cpy

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

Quote by JH:
"I don't shy away from the more dangerous things I do from fear of dying, I participate in those activities from the fear of not living."

Same here.

That does NOT change the fact that the "more dangerous" things we do are...more dangerous.

Road cycling is the MOST dangerous activity I participate in and brothers I'm here to tell you I have done and continue to do things considered highly dangerous by anyone on the planet with half a brain.

From explosives to machineguns to racing cars and karts to motorcycles at 170 MPH to rock climbing to farming (Google the stats...more dangerous than being a cop) to....you name it...NOTHING I've done has presented the risks that racing and training on public roads has.

jhuskey · Jan 30, 2015

I look both ways before I dismount my trainer.

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

Getting clocked by the wife with her sweeper could lead to her getting...everything!

Froze · Jan 30, 2015

Originally Posted by jhuskey
I look both ways before I dismount my trainer.

There was guy on You Tube some years back that tried to slow down to prepare to dismount off his rollers when something went horribly wrong sending him through his sliding glass door.

CAMPYBOB · Jan 30, 2015

Kurt Kinetic offers a "Crash Replacement" warranty on their indoor trainers.

From Kurt's website:

"Kinetic trainers come with a lifetime warranty on the frame and the resistance unit to the original owner. However, we understand that accidents can happen involving our products, so we also offer a crash replacement policy for incidents not covered by our lifetime warranty.

Here is how it works: Kinetic will replace any part or parts on your Kinetic Trainer that are damaged due to an accident, regardless of the cause of that accident, and within reason for a $75.00 cost plus the cost of parts and shipping charges. We reserve the right to reject any product that has been so severely damaged that it cannot be rebuilt."

I have sprinted right off rollers. I demolished the rear rim, tore up the carpet and injured my pride horribly.

Who do I sue, JH?

Road cycling is dangerous...roller cycling is hilarious!

jhuskey · Jan 30, 2015

File suit against the manufacturer, the dealer, the truck driver that delivered it, the guy that built the bike store, McDonalds and Walmart. Walmart and McDonalds must be listed in any lawsuit. I think there is a law that requires it.

mpre53 · Jan 30, 2015

Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
Thanks for the update, mpre53.

15-40 in my state would translate into a likely 3-5 years and then on paper for the rest of her life. I hope they suspended her driving privileges for the rest of her life.

Froze, you can't possibly be serious.

Here, she'd have to do the 15 before she'd be eligible for parole. Any good behavior time would come off the 40.

Don't know about NH. You think they'd be tougher up there than here.

goldenmaine · Feb 17, 2015

[SIZE=11pt]I go road cycling usually in the early mornings so as to avoid traffic and many cars. This will be a way to protect me from danger and accidents. I also am cautious especially when there are a lot of cars. I bike on the side of the road and always go against the flow of cars so I can see the incoming cars. It is not dangerous as long as we are defensive in cycling. [/SIZE]

BrockJohn · Feb 17, 2015

I live in Denmark, which is perhaps one of the most bike-friendly countries in the world, to my joy! I've been road cycling for about 15 years now, and I enjoy every single moment of it, it's such a great way to stay in shape and stay healthy. However, road cycling is dangerous, but living in a country where people are so used to road cyclists provides me with some sense of security.

Just remember to wear reflexes and the likes in the dark times (which we have lots of currently in Denmark!)

Lizel · Feb 17, 2015

It can be dangerous and risky, so you must take all of the precautionary principle and just be careful and watch the road .

CAMPYBOB · Feb 18, 2015

"I bike on the side of the road and always go against the flow of cars so I can see the incoming cars."

Is road cycling dangerous?

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