Discovery in disarray.... ?



This debate is about as sensible as the debate as to whether Discovery is in "disarray"! Probably even less so. :)
 
limerickman said:
This is the same link as the one you gave before. And since you are comprehension impared I will explain it to you again. Your link is about the opinion of 3000 sportswriters. It has nothing to do with the feeling of the general German population. My link reflects the opinion of 100,000 German citizens. My link is more recent than your. We are talking about who is the top German sports star. Not who was the top German sports star.
Go back and read my last post all over and try to comprehend what it says this time.

Your 1997 link is ancient history and nothing to do with the current popularity of German sports stars.

And once again, showing that you are reading impared, your 2000 link is not from 2000 it is from 2003. And it concerns exactly the same sportswriter information as your first link.

How many people watch ARD TV ?
A hell of a lot more than there are German sportswriters.

Current reality is 2006.

But if we accept you premise 1997 too could be considered current reality.
Now that is really dumb. Are you math impared also? My link is from 2004. This means that it is 2 years old. Your link is from 2003. That means that it is 3 years old. Any link from 1997 would be 9 years old. The closer the link is to today the more likely it is to represent the opinion of the German people. Is that so difficult for you to understand. After your 2003 report Shumi won another world championship. Jan continued to get his butt wiped by Lance. You are the guy who argues that the Armstrong doping report can't be right because a Dutchman didn't produce it in perfect English.

........but you contended in message 790 that Schumy was more popular than JU.
He isn't or wasn't.
I have given substantial evidence that he is. You have babbled a lot of nonsense and given links that prove nothing or even disprove the original assertion made by Trash.
 
cyclingheroes said:
No it didn't proof anything.
It proves a lot more than your goofy babbling. At least I have provided a source of evidence for my assertion. Your only position is, "If I don't like it then it's not true."
 
saluki said:
My link reflects the opinion of 100,000 German citizens.
No it isn't: people could call 50 times if they wanted to. But for me it's over and out here because this discussion isn't really interesting...
 
cyclingheroes said:
No it isn't: people could call 50 times if they wanted to.
Prove that people called in 50 times instead of grasping for straws.

But for me it's over and out here because this discussion isn't really interesting...
Stop crying. You invited yourself into it in the first place.
 
saluki said:
This ..................

Four polls all showing that Ullrich was more popular than Schumacher.

(not that I have anyhting against Schumy - but you did contend that schumy was more popular than JU - 4 polls state that you're mistaken).

As WBT suggests - this issue is way of topic.

Discovery is the debate.
 
saluki said:
Prove that people called in 50 times instead of grasping for straws.


Stop crying. You invited yourself into it in the first place.

This is going nowhere.

let's get back to Discovery, Saluki.
 
saluki said:
Prove that people called in 50 times instead of grasping for straws.


Stop crying. You invited yourself into it in the first place.
My last word: it's made (the list) by one of the typical prime time ZDF tv shows. They show a telephone number on the screen and you can call. You can call as often as you want to (and they get money for it: one phone call cost you about 4 times as much as usual calls do). There are dozens of TV shows like that at ZDF , the best pop song, the best movie etc. etc. etc.

I'm not crying i am bored...
 
cyclingheroes said:
Could we get back to the subject? Discovery...
Why should we agree to that? This thread was started and designed by an obsessive maniac who wants to run down DC with every post that he writes. His only objecive and the objective of his thread is to kick dirt into the faces of DC fans and glorify his god Ullrich. But when the **** that you people are dishing out begins to fly back in your direction you want to hide or change the subject.
 
saluki said:
Why should we agree to that? This thread was started and designed by an obsessive maniac who wants to run down DC with every post that he writes. His only objecive and the objective of his thread is to kick dirt into the faces of DC fans and glorify his god Ullrich. But when the **** that you people are dishing out begins to fly back in your direction you want to hide or change the subject.


Saluki - I am asking you to co-operate here.
if you want to debate a schumy/ju popularity poll start another thread.

now - let's get back on topic here.
 
First of all you have not given evidence of these four polls...................



Moderator Role :

SALUKI : I have asked you to desist from posting about this topic in this thread.


I requested you to create another thread if you wish to discuss the topic of schumy and JU as regards popularity.
 
JRMDC said:
This debate is about as sensible as the debate as to whether Discovery is in "disarray"! Probably even less so. :)

Is discovery in disarray? :(
 
I'd say they are not so much in Disarray, rather that they are going to have a less succesful season than they did last year due to the abscence of one notable rider.
 
And because of the witch hunt of that rider we have discovered WADA is in disarray.
So now the re-building begins. The success or lack of success over the next 3 years will tell us of Bruyneels skills as a DS. This year does mean anything but a year to see what they have as team leaders instead of support riders. And it looks as if they have to find a contender again. Maybe Landis?
 
According to Savoldelli, the Discovery team will start out without a defined leader. Four riders will at least initially, will have freedom of action. With Savoldelli himself there is Popovych, Hincapie,and Azevedo

mitosis said:
Yes, it seems that there is some evidence that they are in disarray. :p
 
ilpirata said:
According to Savoldelli, the Discovery team will start out without a defined leader. Four riders will at least initially, will have freedom of action. With Savoldelli himself there is Popovych, Hincapie,and Azevedo
I'm guessing that Bruneel made a lot of his riders promises about getting their chance after Armstrong retired. Now he is trying to live up to those promises. That is admirable of him, but it might not be the best way to get results. Fine, give everybody a chance and chalk up the year as a learning experience. In the mean time I hope that Bruneel is trying to figure out who he can hire that will be good enough to be the undisputed leader of the team.

As far as Bruneel's plan for the Tour, I have some doubts. Savoldelli might look good early and then fold in the bigger mountains. If you are going to give everybody a fair chance you have to let them all ride free at least through a couple of mountain stages.