Discovery in disarray.... ?
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I think the blue jersey os a joke. No one on the corporate world in Discovery Channel are gonna be happy for paying Savoldelli 750,000 a year to get some freekin blue jersey. It may be very omerta and Italian and macho and good for Paolo's construction business to do defend the title and go down swinging but it sucks for the team.musette said:
This IS disarray. Danielson has a chance to podium and they give it away to defen a 3rd place for Savoldelli which he is gonna lose by minutes on the Gavia and Morirolo.
Thy should have cut Danielson loose today.
And as I predicted if Tommy stays back and paces Paolo up the climb today he would and did lose minutes on the descent.
Bad form for Team Disco.
What would Lance do?
Do you know what omerta means? Certainly does not seem like it...bobke said:
Who cares? He is no longer a factor.bobke said:
Danielson was off the back again today rather than being pulled back - he had a brief flurry on the front of the peloton before the climb started when Yates sent Disco up to ride, but on the climb itself he was at the back and then off the back of the peloton fairly early on. Sorry, but this much totuted idea that Danielson should be 'cut loose to attack' looks more and more like a joke...
However, Bobke, have to agree about defending a 3rd place that will almost certainly be lost to Simoni over the next week's racing in favour of a blue jersey that is just another one of the Giro's endless qualifications - especially when Basso could walk awayb from this Giro with the Maglia Rosa and the KoM prize...
However, Bobke, have to agree about defending a 3rd place that will almost certainly be lost to Simoni over the next week's racing in favour of a blue jersey that is just another one of the Giro's endless qualifications - especially when Basso could walk awayb from this Giro with the Maglia Rosa and the KoM prize...
I do not follow the logic... so anytime a Discovery rider does not have an excellent shot at winning a GT he should retire? On what basis would not racing for a major placing in the Giro aid in the TdF? Does Discovery really have a strong contender for the TdF?micron said:
Savoldelli should honor the fact that he is the defending Giro champion, his jersey, and of course the fans and fight until the last stage to try to win/do as well as he can in the Giro.
Pete - just a theory - but Savoldelli seems a natural contender for the TdF (mountains that suit him, fewer MTFs, 2 long TTs) whereas he is running out of chances to make his podium place secure at the Giro and looks set to lose it over the last week.
So what's the point in expending huge amounts of energy contesting the brutal climbs of the last week of the Giro when, if he saves himself and trains well, he stands a better than good chance of standing on the podium at the TdF - which has always been USPS/Disco's main priority.
So what's the point in expending huge amounts of energy contesting the brutal climbs of the last week of the Giro when, if he saves himself and trains well, he stands a better than good chance of standing on the podium at the TdF - which has always been USPS/Disco's main priority.
Savoldelli being an Italian will want to continue in the Giro - and especially so as defending champion.
I'm dismayed by all this talk that if you can't win - you're nothing.
Basically that's bollox.
That is the problem with having our sport hijacked in recent years by liars and thieves.
They come out with **** about winning is everything.
Winning's important but when you're not winning, it is equally important to
adhere to the values that this sport has had long before these "know alls" with their "analysis" of what Savoldelli should or should not do.
I'm dismayed by all this talk that if you can't win - you're nothing.
Basically that's bollox.
That is the problem with having our sport hijacked in recent years by liars and thieves.
They come out with **** about winning is everything.
Winning's important but when you're not winning, it is equally important to
adhere to the values that this sport has had long before these "know alls" with their "analysis" of what Savoldelli should or should not do.
Lim, not suggesting for a minute that Savoldelli should pull out - just that it wouldn't surprise me if Disco pull him out - guess I didn't express that too clearly...I have a lot of respect for what Savoldelli has managed to achieve, particularly last year, when his team support was so very poor.
As you know, I'm 'old school' when it comes to racing - I love the sport for its romance, its fabled exploits, its suffering, the winners and the losers - and I'm a stickler for the history - hence my 'elitist' comments about the attribution of the high cadence style to Armstrong
As you know, I'm 'old school' when it comes to racing - I love the sport for its romance, its fabled exploits, its suffering, the winners and the losers - and I'm a stickler for the history - hence my 'elitist' comments about the attribution of the high cadence style to Armstrong
My most sincere apologies, I will do my best not to disturb you again... wouldn't want to seem desparate...hombredesubaru said:
Micron, I think it would be unheard of for the outgoing Giro winner to pull out to save himself for the TdF. Not even Discovery would do that. I really do not think [hope/] it will happen.micron said:
And as Lim stated, you do not pull out of the Giro just because you will not win it (remember what happened to Basso last year!).
Like I say, pure speculation - and I'm the first to expect champions to ride to the finish unless they absolutely can't - I remember being heartbroken when Kelly broke his collarbone in the yellow jersey, cheering on a bloodied Hinault when he broke his nose...
micron said:Lim, not suggesting for a minute that Savoldelli should pull out - just that it wouldn't surprise me if Disco pull him out - guess I didn't express that too clearly...I have a lot of respect for what Savoldelli has managed to achieve, particularly last year, when his team support was so very poor.
As you know, I'm 'old school' when it comes to racing - I love the sport for its romance, its fabled exploits, its suffering, the winners and the losers - and I'm a stickler for the history - hence my 'elitist' comments about the attribution of the high cadence style to Armstrong
I understand what you're saying.
You raise an interesting point nonetheless : it wouldn't surprise me if DC did pull Savoldelli from the Giro.
This would be the wrong move on DC's part of course - but given DC's lukewarm support of Savoldelli at the 2005 Giro, the constant undermining of Savoldelli being leader for DC at 2006 Giro, nothing would surprise me.
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