I was misled

And again:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=41868

Jobst Brandt
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Jobst Brandt
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Dear Jobst,

Darn! I thought that it would be an article about sparking
titanium.

Ruefully,

Carl Fogel

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Darn! I thought that it would be an article about sparking
titanium.

ME TOO!!

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Jobst Brandt
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Dear Jobst,

Darn! I thought that it would be an article about sparking
titanium.

Ruefully,

Carl Fogel

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein were
responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight
against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan administration
gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht Iranians, our
enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the Reagan
administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange for
hostages.

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Thanks,

Andres

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Jobst Brandt
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Jobst Brandt said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227http://daily.mislea-
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Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

Stick to bicycycles. Links of this sort are unprofessional yellow
journalism at best.

If you must, please wait on the full report of the 9-11 Commission and
NOT some reporter's view.

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Y'know, I'd rather have a helmet flamewar than US politics. At least it's
got something to do with bicycles!
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David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

From the NYT, no less.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/25/politics/25TERR.html

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Weisse Luft said:

From the NYT, no less.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/25/politics/25TERR.html

Yeah, like I'd give THOSE commies my personal info!

Bill "standards" S.

andres muro said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Yes, the US Government have pandered to many nations who they think will
help the USA cause, without thinking it fully through, then they get
kicked up the ass when they realise the mistake they've made.They are
currently feteing the Saudis as all thats good about the Gulf, when in
effect the Saudi rulers are pretty much despots who cannot give a stuff
about Human Rights,and just want to stay in power, much like the current
US government, who think they can treat POW's with impunity,and hold them,
without charge or access to independent lawyers, for as long as they feel
fit.
No, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, George Bush wanted a war, he was
getting bored with Afghanistan, so needed something else to occupy him,
and to keep all his friends, in business and arms supply, happy.
Afghanistan is still a war zone in parts of the Country, and the poppy
yield is going to be high this year, so next year when the cheap heroin is
reaching the US cities, you can thank G.W.B. for his 'victory' in allowing
the free market to flourish in the 'liberated' Afghanistan.
Alan.

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Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein were
responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight
against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan administration
gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht Iranians, our
enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the Reagan
administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange for
hostages.

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Thanks,

Andres

Um, business as usual? I mean we are still up to all this [censored] and no one
seems to care, as long as us Americans can drive our H2"s and Expeditions.
At least Cheney is making a pile of money on all this war and lord know the
Bush family is getting a little on the side. lol

Well, time to start up my Ford F350 four door extended cab with the
powerstroke with a cover over the bed because it never has anything in it
but my fat ass and drive it down to the grocery to pick up all prepared
foods because I am to lazy and fat to cook.

Yee-haw IS now foreign policy!
Curt

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And again:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=41868

Jobst Brandt
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About the political correctness of the Stanford Indian curriculum, not a
chance!

Weisse Luft snipes anonymously:

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Quoted message said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227

Quoted message said:

Stick to bicycycles. Links of this sort are unprofessional yellow
journalism at best.

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If you must, please wait on the full report of the 9-11 Commission and
NOT some reporter's view.

It's nice to see who the bushmen are, my country right or wrong, I'm
for it and fly the flag proudly... as we did in the Viet Nam debacle.

These are direct quotes from the president. He wouldn't mislead you
would he? You don't have to read the facts if you don't like it. As
you see as a latest twist, these administration is twisting the law
into censoring Fahrenheit 9/11. We'll see how the Supreme Court rules
on that.

Jobst Brandt
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A.Lee said:

andres muro said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Yes, the US Government have pandered to many nations who they think
will help the USA cause, without thinking it fully through, then they
get kicked up the ass when they realise the mistake they've made.They
are currently feteing the Saudis as all thats good about the Gulf, when
in effect the Saudi rulers are pretty much despots who cannot give a
stuff about Human Rights,and just want to stay in power, much like the
current US government, who think they can treat POW's with impunity,and
hold them, without charge or access to independent lawyers, for as long
as they feel fit. No, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, George Bush
wanted a war, he was getting bored with Afghanistan, so needed
something else to occupy him, and to keep all his friends, in business
and arms supply, happy. Afghanistan is still a war zone in parts of the
Country, and the poppy yield is going to be high this year, so next
year when the cheap heroin is reaching the US cities, you can thank
G.W.B. for his 'victory' in allowing the free market to flourish in the
'liberated' Afghanistan. Alan.

Yet another fine example of yellow journalism.

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(andres muro) said:

Darn! All along I thought that Iraquis commanded by Sadam Hussein
were responsible for 9/11 and that he was the leader of Al Qaeida.

Huh? They weren't? He isn't?

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I also thought that Osama Bin Laden was our friend. After all John
Rambo, in Rambo III, joins his army to fight against the Russians in
Afganistan. Also, Osama offered his army of holly warriors to fight

^^^^^

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against the Iraqis to expell them from Kuwait.

Militant Santa's elves converted to Islam?

Quoted message said:

Wasn't Sadam a good friend of us too? Didn't the Reagan
administration gave him tons of weapons so that he could fight tht
Iranians, our enemies? Wait.... I am more confused....didn't the
Reagan administration also gave weapons to the Iranians in exchange
for hostages.

Yes.

Quoted message said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the
people that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't
the Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that
caused 9/11?

Yes.

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Can anyone clarify for me?

No.

The Reagan, Bush I and Bush II administrations were and are insane
(and are the same groups of people, for the most part). None of them
can do simple math, none of them knows how to operate a budget, none
of them think the Constitution is worth defending if it gets in their
way, and all of them know that if they lie long enough the majority of
Americans will decide they are telling the truth. The neocons live by
Wizard's First Rule.

One can only hope for an ouster in November.

So many "experts" here ballyhoo a mockumentary, get their news in easy
to digest 30 second soundbites and exist on faults of logic.

I would condemn the whole lot if it were not for luminaries like Bernard
Goldberg. There is hope.

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Jobst Brandt said:

http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227http://daily.mislea-
der.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227
Jobst Brandt [email hidden]

Stick to bicycycles. Links of this sort are unprofessional yellow
journalism at best.

If you must, please wait on the full report of the 9-11 Commission and
NOT some reporter's view.

You mean the 9/11 Commission that was stacked by the GOP to whitewash
the investigation with regard to Bush? Despite all their best efforts
it don't look that good for your boy. I wonder what we would have
found it if there had been some truly aggressive investigation, like
demanding that Bush and Cheney be interviewed separately under oath,
or if they had had supoena power and the will to use it.

JP

Weisse Luft said:

A.Lee said:

andres muro said:

Oh wait.... now I am really confused. Someone told me that the people
that are responsible for 9/11 are all Saudi Arabians. Aren't the
Saudis our friends? So, was it the Iraqis or the Saudis that caused
9/11?

Can anyone clarify for me?

Yes, the US Government have pandered to many nations who they think
will help the USA cause, without thinking it fully through, then they
get kicked up the ass when they realise the mistake they've made.They
are currently feteing the Saudis as all thats good about the Gulf, when
in effect the Saudi rulers are pretty much despots who cannot give a
stuff about Human Rights,and just want to stay in power, much like the
current US government, who think they can treat POW's with impunity,and
hold them, without charge or access to independent lawyers, for as long
as they feel fit. No, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, George Bush
wanted a war, he was getting bored with Afghanistan, so needed
something else to occupy him, and to keep all his friends, in business
and arms supply, happy. Afghanistan is still a war zone in parts of the
Country, and the poppy yield is going to be high this year, so next
year when the cheap heroin is reaching the US cities, you can thank
G.W.B. for his 'victory' in allowing the free market to flourish in the
'liberated' Afghanistan. Alan.

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Yet another fine example of yellow journalism.

Sorry, but which of the above statements are not true?
Clue: they are all true.
Didnt a poll show that something like 60% of US citizens thought Saddam
was responsible for 9/11? Your fellow Countrymen need to be told the
truth.(no I'm not condoning 9/11,it was terrible), but GWB is a complete
idiot who is turning the World against him and the US.After 9/11 the World
was prepared to back the US, now who is standing by Bush? - only Blair,
Bush's UK lapdog, who is also in the [censored] for his unjustified claims about
Iraq, the difference in the UK is that the media discloses the true facts,
not the censored versions published in the US.
Alan.
..

Where's Mark Hickey on this one?

delete the W in both the email address and White House

Jp said:

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Jobst Brandt said:

ader.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227http://daily.mislea-
/http://daily.mislea- der.org/ctt.asp?u=1310344&l=42227 Jobst
Brandt [email hidden]

Stick to bicycycles. Links of this sort are unprofessional yellow
journalism at best.

If you must, please wait on the full report of the 9-11 Commission and
NOT some reporter's view.

You mean the 9/11 Commission that was stacked by the GOP to whitewash
the investigation with regard to Bush? Despite all their best efforts it
don't look that good for your boy. I wonder what we would have found it
if there had been some truly aggressive investigation, like demanding
that Bush and Cheney be interviewed separately under oath, or if they
had had supoena power and the will to use it.
JP

There you go again, throwing out co-opted ideas, hoping they stick as
facts. Without referencing any external information, its unlikely you
could name 4 members of this commission.

Go back to school, the adults are in charge.

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