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  1. Anyone but me notice that there has not been much to read lately here on
    ARBR. All the old timers have left most likely never to return because of
    the Gin episode. But we all know it is much easier to destroy something than
    to build something, don't we. Everyone should be happy now that ARBR is
    finally dead. All that is left is to have the funeral and bury it so it
    doesn't stink up the Google archive.

    Well, this is what happens when no one will defend the group when it comes
    under attack by a single vandal. We had a few good years together, but all
    it took was one vandal to destroy the group. When the going got rough
    everyone (with a few exceptions) took a powder and wimped out. If the group
    was not worth defending then I say good riddance to the group. It was not
    worth saving - that we can all agree on. Perhaps it should never have
    existed in the first place. Everyone should be happy now, or did I already
    say that. Sic transit gloria mundi.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  2. On Tue, 3 May 2005 05:50:25 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    this is what happens when no one will defend the group when it comes
    under attack by a single vandal.

    We did, but you refused to mend your ways.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  3. Move along, nothing to read here.

  4. People left not because of Ed Gin but because of Ed Dolan and Tom
    Sherman. Again, they left way before Ed Gin showed up.

    Perry B

    Edward Dolan said:

    Anyone but me notice that there has not been much to read lately here


    on

    Quoted message said:

    ARBR. All the old timers have left most likely never to return


    because of

    Quoted message said:

    the Gin episode. But we all know it is much easier to destroy


    something than

    Quoted message said:

    to build something, don't we. Everyone should be happy now that ARBR


    is

    Quoted message said:

    finally dead. All that is left is to have the funeral and bury it so


    it

    Quoted message said:

    doesn't stink up the Google archive.

    Well, this is what happens when no one will defend the group when it


    comes

    Quoted message said:

    under attack by a single vandal. We had a few good years together,


    but all

    Quoted message said:

    it took was one vandal to destroy the group. When the going got rough

    Quoted message said:

    everyone (with a few exceptions) took a powder and wimped out. If the


    group

    Quoted message said:

    was not worth defending then I say good riddance to the group. It was


    not

    Quoted message said:

    worth saving - that we can all agree on. Perhaps it should never have

    Quoted message said:

    existed in the first place. Everyone should be happy now, or did I


    already

    Quoted message said:

    say that. Sic transit gloria mundi.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  5. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People left not because of Ed Gin but because of Ed Dolan and Tom
    Sherman. Again, they left way before Ed Gin showed up.

    Perry B

    Still top posting I see.

    All I ever did was get rid of the dead wood who were spouting obnoxious
    liberal opinions all over the place. I brought others to the group who
    heretofore never wanted to be here because of all the liberal posting. One
    thing I never was was a vandal. I contributed, I did not destroy. Have a
    good hard look at the group now compared to where it was prior to the
    arrival of the vandal and you will see what I mean.

    A little straight talk and controversy never hurt anybody. That is all I was
    ever guilty of.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  6. "NoComRulez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People avoid this place because they don't want to have to endure your
    Hannity wanna-be [censored], Dolan. You've been dropping your
    faux-conservative garbage all over for years... Couldn't be that people
    don't want to read that, could it?

    Sigh, another top poster.

    I don't believe I ever posted a single message to any newsgroup in my entire
    life that was not a response to some liberal garbage. But liberals are
    notorious for dishing it out but not knowing how to take it. People always
    want to read what I have to say as witness all the responses I get to
    whatever I write. Well, we can't all be great like me.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  7. "Slugger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Move along, nothing to read here.

    Sigh, another top poster.

    Even so, Slugger thought it worthwhile to read what I had to say about ARBR
    and respond with a six word message of his own.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  8. I used to be an avid visitor of this site. Every chance I got I would
    visit. As a new recumbent owner/rider I learned a lot from a lot of the
    folks who used to post on this site. Sometimes it was confusing becuase
    there were a lot of differing opionion on topics. But all of it was
    very informative.

    Then came the off topic post, political post, the intolerant post, et
    al. I cut back and then eventually stopped. I now visit very
    inferquently. There is just not much in the way of informative
    recumbent discussions and I find other sites to be more informative and
    interesting. I guess like life it self all things follow a cycle of
    brith, growth, and then death.

    As someone else has resmarked and if I remember correctly from one of
    the few post of yours that I read. Ed, I think it was you who made your
    self judge and jury and was committed to rid this site of all those you
    saw unfit. Nice to see someone who is so closed minded. You fit right
    in with this brave new narrow minded world we live in.

    As the saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for it might just come
    true".

    Oh and don't hurry to post a reply. If I do come back it probably won't
    be for awhile and my interest will be gone by then.

    Edward Dolan said:

    Anyone but me notice that there has not been much to read lately here


    on

    Quoted message said:

    ARBR. All the old timers have left most likely never to return


    because of

    Quoted message said:

    the Gin episode. But we all know it is much easier to destroy


    something than

    Quoted message said:

    to build something, don't we. Everyone should be happy now that ARBR


    is

    Quoted message said:

    finally dead. All that is left is to have the funeral and bury it so


    it

    Quoted message said:

    doesn't stink up the Google archive.

    Well, this is what happens when no one will defend the group when it


    comes

    Quoted message said:

    under attack by a single vandal. We had a few good years together,


    but all

    Quoted message said:

    it took was one vandal to destroy the group. When the going got rough

    Quoted message said:

    everyone (with a few exceptions) took a powder and wimped out. If the


    group

    Quoted message said:

    was not worth defending then I say good riddance to the group. It was


    not

    Quoted message said:

    worth saving - that we can all agree on. Perhaps it should never have

    Quoted message said:

    existed in the first place. Everyone should be happy now, or did I


    already

    Quoted message said:

    say that. Sic transit gloria mundi.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  9. Oh Sigh, my ass.
    Hang in there at the bottom o the heap, Ed
    - - - - - - - -

    On Tue, 3 May 2005 23:55:12 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "NoComRulez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People avoid this place because they don't want to have to endure your
    Hannity wanna-be [censored], Dolan. You've been dropping your
    faux-conservative garbage all over for years... Couldn't be that people
    don't want to read that, could it?

    Sigh, another top poster.

    I don't believe I ever posted a single message to any newsgroup in my entire
    life that was not a response to some liberal garbage. But liberals are
    notorious for dishing it out but not knowing how to take it. People always
    want to read what I have to say as witness all the responses I get to
    whatever I write. Well, we can't all be great like me.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I used to be an avid visitor of this site. Every chance I got I would
    visit. As a new recumbent owner/rider I learned a lot from a lot of the
    folks who used to post on this site. Sometimes it was confusing becuase
    there were a lot of differing opionion on topics. But all of it was
    very informative.

    You ought to get a subscription to RCN and not be listening to the blokes on
    this forum. 90% of them do not know what they are talking about 90% of the
    time.

    Quoted message said:

    Then came the off topic post, political post, the intolerant post, et
    al. I cut back and then eventually stopped. I now visit very
    inferquently. There is just not much in the way of informative
    recumbent discussions and I find other sites to be more informative and
    interesting. I guess like life it self all things follow a cycle of
    brith, growth, and then death.

    All newsgroups need a moderator to winnow out the nuts, jerks and
    screwballs. A group without a moderator (editor) is like a ship without a
    captain.

    Quoted message said:

    As someone else has resmarked and if I remember correctly from one of
    the few post of yours that I read. Ed, I think it was you who made your
    self judge and jury and was committed to rid this site of all those you
    saw unfit. Nice to see someone who is so closed minded. You fit right
    in with this brave new narrow minded world we live in.

    Everyone is close minded provided you are no longer a teenager searching for
    your true self. Being close minded means you have come to some conclusions
    about life after having lived a long life. Show me someone who is not close
    minded and I will show you an idiot.

    The problem of course is the variety of opinions that prevail universally
    among all mankind. But when you don't like someones else's opinion, then you
    chant closed minded and narrow minded. In other words, think like me or else
    I will call you names.

    Quoted message said:

    As the saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for it might just come
    true".

    Nothing I have ever wished for in my life has ever come true.

    Quoted message said:

    Oh and don't hurry to post a reply. If I do come back it probably won't
    be for awhile and my interest will be gone by then.

    I think the main problem with all top posters is that they are ego maniacs.
    All that matters to them is to have their say. They are talkers, not
    listeners.

    Notice how he does not want to even hear my reply. So be it. Why should I
    waste time on someone who does not want to listen. He can talk and listen to
    himself only, like all top posters do.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  11. Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sigh, another top poster.

    <Rollensmoothe> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh Sigh, my ass.
    Hang in there at the bottom o the heap, Ed

    I have decided that top posters do not merit a reply since they are not
    engaged in a reply in the first instance. To do that they would have to
    bottom post which is the only correct way to post - unless you want to be
    altogether irrelevant.

    I have never yet heard a good explanation for top posting other than
    laziness. It messes everything up for the reader who is not directly engaged
    in the conversation and following all the messages from the beginning. But
    it is the hallmark of the top poster to show no consideration for the
    reader. He is only writing for himself and he is only reading himself. That
    is why he does not merit a reply.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 3 May 2005 23:55:12 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "NoComRulez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    People avoid this place because they don't want to have to endure your
    Hannity wanna-be [censored], Dolan. You've been dropping your
    faux-conservative garbage all over for years... Couldn't be that people
    don't want to read that, could it?

    Sigh, another top poster.

    I don't believe I ever posted a single message to any newsgroup in my
    entire
    life that was not a response to some liberal garbage. But liberals are
    notorious for dishing it out but not knowing how to take it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    People always want to read what I have to say as witness all the responses
    I get to
    whatever I write. Well, we can't all be great like me.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota


  12. On Thu, 5 May 2005 01:59:35 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    I have decided that top posters do not merit a reply since they are not
    engaged in a reply in the first instance. To do that they would have to
    bottom post which is the only correct way to post - unless you want to be
    altogether irrelevant.

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    \ 1 9 / /
    \ 0 / 10 /
    \ TROLL-O-METER / /
    \ / /
    \ / /
    \_____________________/____/
    \ /
    \....................../

  13. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 5 May 2005 01:59:35 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    I have decided that top posters do not merit a reply since they are not
    engaged in a reply in the first instance. To do that they would have to
    bottom post which is the only correct way to post - unless you want to be
    altogether irrelevant.

    +--------------------------------------+
    \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 /
    \ 1 9 / /
    \ 0 / 10 /
    \ TROLL-O-METER / /
    \ / /
    \ / /
    \_____________________/____/
    \ /
    \....................../

    This is entirely acceptable since Guy has bottom posted.

    I am here to uphold standards. Without standards, civilization teeters on
    the brink and is in danger of perishing. HOW one says something (the form)
    is just as important as WHAT one says (the substance). And it is the
    hallmark of an educated mind.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  14. Versatility is the mark of a mature mind.
    Feel free to waste your time scrolling down to
    see what prompted that comment.

    Edward Dolan said:


    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 5 May 2005 01:59:35 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    I have decided that top posters do not merit a reply since they
    are not engaged in a reply in the first instance. To do that they
    would have to bottom post which is the only correct way to post -
    unless you want to be altogether irrelevant.

    +--------------------------------------+
    \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 /
    \ 1 9 / /
    \ 0 / 10 /
    \ TROLL-O-METER / /
    \ / /
    \ / /
    \_____________________/____/
    \ /
    \....................../

    This is entirely acceptable since Guy has bottom posted.

    I am here to uphold standards. Without standards, civilization
    teeters on the brink and is in danger of perishing. HOW one says
    something (the form) is just as important as WHAT one says (the
    substance). And it is the hallmark of an educated mind.

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

  15. "Michael Baugh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : Versatility is the mark of a mature mind.
    : Feel free to waste your time scrolling down to
    : see what prompted that comment.

    Geez, don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back. What a guy! And
    so humble, too!

    Pat in TX

  16. "Michael Baugh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Versatility is the mark of a mature mind.
    Feel free to waste your time scrolling down to
    see what prompted that comment.


    [...]

    Versatility and originality are highly over rated. They are mainly the
    province of the young and the dumb. Those of us like me who are old and wise
    should strive for conventionality at all costs. When I do something that
    millions of others have done in a similar matter, I feel very good about it.
    After all, I have then come up to a standard, never very high, that at least
    marks me as a civilized person who is part of society.

    Top posting makes no sense at all, but I can see why others can fall into
    the trap. It is less likely to happen when you have a proper newsreader like
    Outlook Express. I must admit when I occasionally use the Google website I
    do get confused and end up top posting myself. How mortifying!

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  17. Well, I can appreciate a good and proper troll saying something
    like Outlook Express being a proper newsreader. That's an
    excellent bit of trolldom, and I just wanted to let you know
    how appreciated it was. Your praise of a newsreader with so
    many huge security holes was quite amusing..
    Now, I realize that your 'bottom posting' crusade is a
    similarly contrived bit of trollhoodism. Someone obviously as
    articulate as yourself knows that most bottom-posted comments
    get ignored unless the person is really interested in trying
    to find the corn in the [censored], but I think it's really neat
    that you're willing to try to make the case for such an
    outmoded bit of 'netiquet'.
    Hey, just wanted to let you know I think you're doing a
    great job, and I look forward to your posts. Don't read
    several of them, but I know you're still in there.

    Edward Dolan said:


    "Michael Baugh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Versatility is the mark of a mature mind.
    Feel free to waste your time scrolling down to
    see what prompted that comment.


    [...]

    Versatility and originality are highly over rated. They are mainly
    the province of the young and the dumb. Those of us like me who are
    old and wise should strive for conventionality at all costs. When I
    do something that millions of others have done in a similar matter, I
    feel very good about it. After all, I have then come up to a
    standard, never very high, that at least marks me as a civilized
    person who is part of society.

    Top posting makes no sense at all, but I can see why others can fall
    into the trap. It is less likely to happen when you have a proper
    newsreader like Outlook Express. I must admit when I occasionally use
    the Google website I do get confused and end up top posting myself.
    How mortifying!

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  18. On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:28 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Versatility and originality are highly over rated.

    Yeah, just look at losers like Leonardo da Vinci and Robert Hooke.
    They'll never get anywhere compared with an opinionated [censored] like
    Dolan, will they? I mean, who's going to remember them when they are
    dead? Whereas when you are finally nailed down the whole of ARBR will
    breathe a collective sigh of relief and get on with the real business
    of recumbent cycling (that's if there's anyone left by then who's not
    been driven off by your incessant trolling).

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  19. [quote="Just zis Guy, you know?"]On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:28 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Versatility and originality are highly over rated.



    Yeah, just look at losers like Leonardo da Vinci and Robert Hooke.
    They'll never get anywhere compared with an opinionated [censored] like
    Dolan, will they? I mean, who's going to remember them when they are
    dead? Whereas when you are finally nailed down the whole of ARBR will
    breathe a collective sigh of relief and get on with the real business
    of recumbent cycling (that's if there's anyone left by then who's not
    been driven off by your incessant trolling).

    Guy
    --
    This post is a new low for Guy.What would you like to happen when you are finally nailed down?You are only surpassed by Wayne Laggett who was the most foul mouthed poet ever to post here.
    I think if you can't play nice then pick up your toys and go home.

  20. ALL TOP POSTER ARE IDIOTS!

    "Michael Baugh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I can appreciate a good and proper troll saying something
    like Outlook Express being a proper newsreader. That's an
    excellent bit of trolldom, and I just wanted to let you know
    how appreciated it was. Your praise of a newsreader with so
    many huge security holes was quite amusing..

    Only criminals need security. I suppose you don't use Internet Explorer
    either? Maybe you worry so much about security that you only use the Mac or
    Linux operating system on your computer?

    Quoted message said:

    Now, I realize that your 'bottom posting' crusade is a
    similarly contrived bit of trollhoodism. Someone obviously as
    articulate as yourself knows that most bottom-posted comments
    get ignored unless the person is really interested in trying
    to find the corn in the [censored], but I think it's really neat
    that you're willing to try to make the case for such an
    outmoded bit of 'netiquet'.

    Arguments have been made ad infinitum for bottom posting as opposed to top
    posting. You are incurably ignorant - and in general a scofflaw to boot.

    Quoted message said:

    Hey, just wanted to let you know I think you're doing a
    great job, and I look forward to your posts. Don't read
    several of them, but I know you're still in there.

    It will always pay to read what I have to say about any subject under the
    sun as I have a natural knack for saying interesting things in an
    interesting way - unlike most everyone else here on ARBR.

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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