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Sunset Lowracer TM Fanatic said:

Christians believe that their Messiah was born in a barn.

Some of us, however, believe that /our/ Messaiah was born in the Shedde...

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Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Ha ha, you fool! You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders!
The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

Edward Dolan said:

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Just zis Guy said:

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:38:06 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
said in <[email hidden]>:

> There is no idiom in the world that approves of dirty talking about the
> excretory and sexual functions, at least not in polite society. What is
> the matter with you anyway? Were you born in a barn?

Once again you reveal the depth of your ignorance. Old fart is a
_very_ common British idomatic usage, and often used in polite
society.

I refuse to believe that!

I know this concept causes you difficvulty Ed, but just because you
don't believe something, it doesn't make it any less true.

regards, Ian SMith
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What ed dolan knows about computing you could fit into a thimble. He
still uses Internet Exploder for cripes sake. The rest of his post is
the usual jibber.

Actually I have moved on a bit and am now using Mozilla Firefox, but I find
that I still need IE for various things. However, I do not see any reason to
give up OE as my newsreader as it works just fine (most of the time). Maybe
those of you who are paying good money for a newsreader could explain to me
what are the advantages of doing so.

By the way, what Slugger knows about good English you could fit into a
thimble. Proper names should always be capitalized.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:35:00 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
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It will always pay to read what I have to say about any subject under the
sun as I have a natural knack for saying interesting things in an
interesting way - unlike most everyone else here on ARBR.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

I see you are still practicing satire in your posts.

People are always saying things like that about me when I am being most
serious.

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Just wanted to thank you for what, so far, seems to be an effort at
controling the nature of your posting here. The civility is valued, at
least from this direction. Now if you can manage to refrain from
insulting particular individuals who hold divergent views on off topic
items I will be troolee impressed.

Such graciousness should never be past over.

Indiana Mike

Indiana Mike knows the difference between past and pass, something I have
yet to learn. I would have thought "passed." No doubt, a case of terminal
confusion which I will take with me to the grave.

I am going to hone my posts more to what I believe is the intent of the
writer rather than the actual words that are written. This will work out
positive to most here on ARBR, but there are a few unfortunately who only
have evil intentions, which only I can decipher. I am one of this world's
leading experts at reading between the lines and searching for hidden
meanings. So all will not be sweetness and light here on ARBR. Dark rainbows
do exist.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Ha ha, you fool! You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders!
The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

There have been wars raging on the continent of Asia from the earliest
historical periods of which we have knowledge. Russia and Britain never
could get Afghanistan squared away. It took us Americans to do that with
very little time and effort.

The Iraq War has also been over for the past several years. All that is
taking place now is the wiping up. The US, like Ancient Rome, can go
anywhere and do anything in the world. Britain was once Great too, but it,
like the rest of Europe, has turned yellow and become cowardly. Europe,
appeasement is thy name!

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

It is undeniable that the 10 year old likes this kind of humor the best.

Au contraire, it is deniable. M. Petomane played to adult audiences in
Paris; Blazing Saddles was IIRC "R" rated in the US of A so clearly aimed
at an older age group than ten year olds. I can't vouch for the mental
age of the Hollywood folks that nominated it for three Oscars though.

Most movies are made for the 12 year old mentality. I thought everyone knew
that much at least.

The execrable French would not know good humor if it jumped up and bit them
in the elbow. Hells Bells, they even think Jerry Lewis was funny and a great
comic!

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It comes from their babyhood and they are not far enough removed from
that period to know any better. What is your excuse?

I try to remain young at heart and not become a boring old fart. YMMV

Try to acquire an adult sense of humor. You will find riches there that you
will never find among the young and the stupid.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

I continue to refuse to believe that this is an acceptable word in polite
company. We here on ARBR are in the public eye and can therefore be
considered polite society - even though many here are little better than
swine. I do note that even your dictionary definition considers it slang.

Perhaps you should tell the BBC that:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/742827.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/08/99/edinburgh_festival_99/430046.stm

or The Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1616710,00.html

to pull down a few quick examples

These are prime examples of liberal media and everyone ought to know by now
that all liberals have the morality of swine. Liberalism in fact has
corrupted the morals of all of Western Civilization to such an extent that
it may never recover its former glory.

By the way, I never go to a link here on ARBR. I have been burned too many
times for that.

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The OED is the greatest dictionary of all time, but it runs to many

volumes

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and so will not be found in many homes. Even public libraries do not like
to have it as it takes up so much space. I think you will only find it in
college and university libraries these days.

You clearly don't get out much in Minnesota.

The OED is indeed arguably the greatest dictionary and it is available
on-line for a subscription at www.oed.com. Failing that it comes in the
full 20 volume version down to the Concise OED and even pocket versions
that many homes in the UK will have on their shelves. A simple entry of
Oxford English Dictionary into Amazon.com will reveal all.

I am not interested in a scaled down version of the OED. It is either the
full version or nothing with me.

I have had a checkered past with the OED. I once became the head librarian
at a small public library and the first thing I discovered was that the OED
was residing in the basement of the library and was in fact in storage. I
was of course horrified and insisted that it be returned to its rightful
place of honor in the library reference area, even though it took up a vast
amount of space.

I don't think anyone ever did look at those volumes, but that was beside the
point. The OED is one of the glories of the English language and the English
nation. But my efforts on behalf of civilization were not appreciated by the
patrons and the board of the library, and so we soon came to the parting of
the ways. Excellence like mine is not easy to live with.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:38:06 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
> said in <[email hidden]>:
>
>> There is no idiom in the world that approves of dirty talking about
>> the
>> excretory and sexual functions, at least not in polite society. What
>> is
>> the matter with you anyway? Were you born in a barn?
>
> Once again you reveal the depth of your ignorance. Old fart is a
> _very_ common British idomatic usage, and often used in polite
> society.

I refuse to believe that!

I know this concept causes you difficvulty Ed, but just because you
don't believe something, it doesn't make it any less true.

What I believe to be true or false is based on a long lifetime of reading
English literature and going to English movies. Despite my conundrums with
the English here on ARBR, I am actually an Anglophile. I like most things
English believe it or not. I remember taking my meals at the hotel I was
staying at in London. It was all just so formal and correct. In other words,
perfect!

In polite society the excretory and sexual functions can only be referred to
with medical or semi-medical terms. Anything else is considered slang at the
least - and god awful at the most. I remain ever steadfast in my unalterable
beliefs.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:42:00 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

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What ed dolan knows about computing you could fit into a thimble. He
still uses Internet Exploder for cripes sake. The rest of his post is
the usual jibber.

Actually I have moved on a bit and am now using Mozilla Firefox, but I find
that I still need IE for various things. However, I do not see any reason to
give up OE as my newsreader as it works just fine (most of the time). Maybe
those of you who are paying good money for a newsreader could explain to me
what are the advantages of doing so.

You don't have to pay good money for a good newsreader, Ed. I won't
bother posting a link, but if you do a search for Agent (or FreeAgent)
you will find a nice program. I liked it enough to get the pay
version, but the freeware would likely serve your needs admirably.
The free version is still an excellent newsreader.

Indiana Mike

PS- If I were to post a link it would lead one to forteinc<dot>com

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By the way, what Slugger knows about good English you could fit into a
thimble. Proper names should always be capitalized.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:42:00 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

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What ed dolan knows about computing you could fit into a thimble. He
still uses Internet Exploder for cripes sake. The rest of his post is
the usual jibber.

Actually I have moved on a bit and am now using Mozilla Firefox, but I
find
that I still need IE for various things. However, I do not see any reason
to
give up OE as my newsreader as it works just fine (most of the time).
Maybe
those of you who are paying good money for a newsreader could explain to
me
what are the advantages of doing so.

You don't have to pay good money for a good newsreader, Ed. I won't
bother posting a link, but if you do a search for Agent (or FreeAgent)
you will find a nice program. I liked it enough to get the pay
version, but the freeware would likely serve your needs admirably.
The free version is still an excellent newsreader.

Indiana Mike

I suppose if and when my OE gives up the ghost I will do as you suggest. The
thing is once you get used to doing things a certain way, you hate to learn
any other way, and there is always a learning curve to all software as no
two are ever alike. I have always heard nothing but good things about
FreeAgent.

My question though was why anyone would want to pay for a newsreader when
you can get a free one that will work just as well, at least for Usenet.
Newsfeeds for instance seems like a very expensive newsreader and for what?
Just to be anonymous so no one can trace you?

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PS- If I were to post a link it would lead one to forteinc<dot>com

I will go to any link that you give me because I trust you. I will not go to
a link by Ed Gin (and his many sock puppets) because I do not trust him.
Several others fall into this category too. The very best thing to do when
referring others to a link is to first explain what you will find there
however briefly - which you have done to your credit.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Ha ha, you fool! You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders!
The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

There have been wars raging on the continent of Asia from the earliest
historical periods of which we have knowledge. Russia and Britain never
could get Afghanistan squared away. It took us Americans to do that with
very little time and effort.

The Iraq War has also been over for the past several years. All that is
taking place now is the wiping up. The US, like Ancient Rome, can go
anywhere and do anything in the world. Britain was once Great too, but it,
like the rest of Europe, has turned yellow and become cowardly. Europe,
appeasement is thy name!

Ed Dolan has quite a sense of humor for being an old Minnesota coot.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Edward Dolan said:

...
The execrable French would not know good humor if it jumped up and bit them
in the elbow. Hells Bells, they even think Jerry Lewis was funny and a great
comic!...

The French prefer overdubbing to subtitles [1]. One can only think that
whoever overdubbed Jerry Lewis was a much superior vocal actor than the
original.

[1] Normally a questionable practice.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

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Edward Dolan said:

...
The execrable French would not know good humor if it jumped up and bit
them
in the elbow. Hells Bells, they even think Jerry Lewis was funny and a
great
comic!...

The French prefer overdubbing to subtitles [1]. One can only think that
whoever overdubbed Jerry Lewis was a much superior vocal actor than the
original.

[1] Normally a questionable practice.

I can't stand overdubbing. It will ruin any movie. Subtitles are the only
way to go. After awhile it is second nature to follow the subtitles without
missing anything. I have seen literally many hundreds of European films, all
with subtitles, when I was in New York, the film capital of the world for
art movies. It got so bad that after awhile I could no longer stand to watch
American movies. Even the good ones seemed very inferior compared to the art
films from Europe. This was back in the 60's.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

Actually I have moved on a bit and am now using Mozilla Firefox, but I find
that I still need IE for various things. However, I do not see any reason to
give up OE as my newsreader as it works just fine (most of the time). Maybe
those of you who are paying good money for a newsreader could explain to me
what are the advantages of doing so.

Perhaps having made the step to Firefox you might like to try their
sister product Thunderbird which is also FREE and does a much better job
and is less vulnerable than OE as a mail and news client. It even
automates the import of all your OE stuff when you install it so you are
up and ready to go with no fiddly setting up.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

Edward Dolan said:

I don't think anyone ever did look at those volumes, but that was
beside the point. The OED is one of the glories of the English
language and the English nation. But my efforts on behalf of
civilization were not appreciated by the patrons and the board of the
library, and so we soon came to the parting of the ways. Excellence
like mine is not easy to live with.

I'm not surprised. I bet the volumes you put out were out of date. Now
if you had gone and put the current version on the shelves rather than
some old obsolete volumes you found lying around I'm sure your efforts
would have been appreciated. But insulting the local population's
intelligence with out of date volumes - well what do you expect?

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

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Edward Dolan said:

Actually I have moved on a bit and am now using Mozilla Firefox, but I
find that I still need IE for various things. However, I do not see any
reason to give up OE as my newsreader as it works just fine (most of the
time). Maybe those of you who are paying good money for a newsreader
could explain to me what are the advantages of doing so.

Perhaps having made the step to Firefox you might like to try their sister
product Thunderbird which is also FREE and does a much better job and is
less vulnerable than OE as a mail and news client. It even automates the
import of all your OE stuff when you install it so you are up and ready to
go with no fiddly setting up.

Thanks Tony. I have now received several good alternatives to my OE
newsreader. But still I wonder why anyone would pay for a newsreader when
there are so many good ones available for free.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

I don't think anyone ever did look at those volumes, but that was
beside the point. The OED is one of the glories of the English
language and the English nation. But my efforts on behalf of
civilization were not appreciated by the patrons and the board of the
library, and so we soon came to the parting of the ways. Excellence
like mine is not easy to live with.

I'm not surprised. I bet the volumes you put out were out of date. Now
if you had gone and put the current version on the shelves rather than
some old obsolete volumes you found lying around I'm sure your efforts
would have been appreciated. But insulting the local population's
intelligence with out of date volumes - well what do you expect?

There are some things in life which do not need to be up to date. The OED is
one of them. You go to that work to look up the history of words primarily.
New words are not worth bothering with and do not interest me. I will admit
I spent several days trying to get the dust off of those moldy old volumes.

I feel the same way about encyclopedias. I have the 1910-1911 onion paper
Eleventh Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica in my living room and I
refer to it all the time. Frankly, I am not much interested in anything that
has occurred since 1911. The scholarship back then was as good as it ever
got and Western Civilization was also as good as it ever got. W.W.I ruined
everything and W.W.II was the coup de grace. No thanks, I will take the 19th
century and you can have all the succeeding centuries.

As a former college librarian I will admit I love books. I mean I love the
physicality of books. I like to flip though them and smell them and even
taste them. Whereas my relationship with the computer is essentially one of
unadulterated hatred. It is good that I am getting on in years and will be
leaving this world in the not too distant future. Truth to tell, I am an old
dog and I am damned if I am going to learn any new tricks.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

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Edward Dolan said:

I don't think anyone ever did look at those volumes, but that was
beside the point. The OED is one of the glories of the English
language and the English nation. But my efforts on behalf of
civilization were not appreciated by the patrons and the board of the
library, and so we soon came to the parting of the ways. Excellence
like mine is not easy to live with.

I'm not surprised. I bet the volumes you put out were out of date. Now
if you had gone and put the current version on the shelves rather than
some old obsolete volumes you found lying around I'm sure your efforts
would have been appreciated. But insulting the local population's
intelligence with out of date volumes - well what do you expect?

There are some things in life which do not need to be up to date. The OED is
one of them. You go to that work to look up the history of words primarily.
New words are not worth bothering with and do not interest me. I will admit
I spent several days trying to get the dust off of those moldy old volumes.

I feel the same way about encyclopedias. I have the 1910-1911 onion paper
Eleventh Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica in my living room and I
refer to it all the time. Frankly, I am not much interested in anything that
has occurred since 1911. The scholarship back then was as good as it ever
got and Western Civilization was also as good as it ever got. W.W.I ruined
everything and W.W.II was the coup de grace. No thanks, I will take the 19th
century and you can have all the succeeding centuries.

Feel free to live in the past but I prefer a dictionary that has
sections of DNA and genetics, nuclear power, quantum electronics, female
emancipation and the many other features of the 20th century that
changed our lives

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As a former college librarian I will admit I love books. I mean I love the
physicality of books. I like to flip though them and smell them and even
taste them.

Please don't eat the books.

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Whereas my relationship with the computer is essentially one of
unadulterated hatred.

And yet you persist. Give in to you hatred and throw it in the bin. Or
rather get you "below stairs" servants to throw it out for you. You'll
feel better for it.

You don't know Gertrude Blovius by any chance? I think you would get on
well together.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

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Edward Dolan said:

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Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> I don't think anyone ever did look at those volumes, but that was
> beside the point. The OED is one of the glories of the English
> language and the English nation. But my efforts on behalf of
> civilization were not appreciated by the patrons and the board of the
> library, and so we soon came to the parting of the ways. Excellence
> like mine is not easy to live with.
>
I'm not surprised. I bet the volumes you put out were out of date. Now
if you had gone and put the current version on the shelves rather than
some old obsolete volumes you found lying around I'm sure your efforts
would have been appreciated. But insulting the local population's
intelligence with out of date volumes - well what do you expect?

There are some things in life which do not need to be up to date. The OED
is one of them. You go to that work to look up the history of words
primarily. New words are not worth bothering with and do not interest me.
I will admit I spent several days trying to get the dust off of those
moldy old volumes.

I feel the same way about encyclopedias. I have the 1910-1911 onion paper
Eleventh Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica in my living room and I
refer to it all the time. Frankly, I am not much interested in anything
that has occurred since 1911. The scholarship back then was as good as it
ever got and Western Civilization was also as good as it ever got. W.W.I
ruined everything and W.W.II was the coup de grace. No thanks, I will
take the 19th century and you can have all the succeeding centuries.

Feel free to live in the past but I prefer a dictionary that has sections
of DNA and genetics, nuclear power, quantum electronics, female
emancipation and the many other features of the 20th century that changed
our lives

I would like to have been a Roman aristocrat from the Empire period and had
many slaves at my beck and call. What is this female emancipation thing that
you mention? Never heard of it! Everyone knows it was a colossal mistake to
allow women to vote. Only property owning male individuals like myself
should be permitted to vote, let alone hold high office.

If the Muslims have their way, the 20th century will be totally repealed and
we will all revert to the good old days of the Roman Empire. I shudder to
even think about what might happen in the 21st century if the Muslims do not
prevail, surely nothing good!

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As a former college librarian I will admit I love books. I mean I love
the physicality of books. I like to flip though them and smell them and
even taste them.

Please don't eat the books.

I once found a fried egg between the pages of a book. I wonder if the reader
was using the fried egg as a book mark.

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Whereas my relationship with the computer is essentially one of
unadulterated hatred.

And yet you persist. Give in to you hatred and throw it in the bin. Or
rather get you "below stairs" servants to throw it out for you. You'll
feel better for it.

My computer is going to go belly up one of these days and then I will be
done with it forever. Anything that doesn't work with a simple On and Off
switch is beyond the intelligence of the average man.

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You don't know Gertrude Blovius by any chance? I think you would get on
well together.

I am way too lazy to look up who this character might be. Nice try though.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

I would like to have been a Roman aristocrat from the Empire period and had
many slaves at my beck and call. What is this female emancipation thing that
you mention? Never heard of it! Everyone knows it was a colossal mistake to
allow women to vote. Only property owning male individuals like myself
should be permitted to vote, let alone hold high office.

Dream on as you sit there in front of your computer screen in the frozen
lands of Minnesota - the prime location of choice for people of property
and power.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham