Today I went for a ride after work. A fairly uneventful ride in which I discovered two new cycle paths (One was an alternative to the Water of Leith Walkway, the other; a gentle sweeping descent to South Queensferry). Having bought some nanas in South Queensferry, I pottered up the hill to eat them and look out over the bridges.
But I didn't reckon on the G8! I noticed the policeman as I stopped, but didn't realise he was approaching until I started eating.
Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details" Me: "Er... yes actually".
To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - " "😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name and address so that they could look me up in their database of known terrorists.
Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
Today I went for a ride after work. A fairly uneventful ride in which I discovered two new cycle paths (One was an alternative to the Water of Leith Walkway, the other; a gentle sweeping descent to South Queensferry). Having bought some nanas in South Queensferry, I pottered up the hill to eat them and look out over the bridges.
But I didn't reckon on the G8! I noticed the policeman as I stopped, but didn't realise he was approaching until I started eating.
Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk.
High risk?
Would you mind me taking your details"
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Me: "Er... yes actually".
Good on you.
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To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - " "😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name and address so that they could look me up in their database of known terrorists.
Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
Oh? You think? Want to hear about the time I was arrested in King Lake for stealing furniture and electrical goods (on a motorcycle) The basis for arrest was aparently that I was a stranger and on a motorcycle and not one cop saw the obvious snag in this theory.
(I bet Steven doesnt either🙂 )
There are some dumb coppers out there. Luckily some dumb crims as well. And generally some dumb people. If we are talking terrorists and we are talking the blowing up themselfs type some people might consider than not terribly bright.
"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - " "😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name and address so that they could look me up in their database of known terrorists.
Is that you - John Smith, 3a High Street, Milton Keynes?
I always knew it. Up at 8.30am on a Sunday washing your MG Rover ....
always worth being up to speed on the stop and search rules; as can be found on most police authority web sites (google's first offering being this: http://www.wypa.org/section-item.asp?sid=8&iid=128).
I have a copy of these I carry around on a glossy credit card size pamphlet - usefully issued by the Hants police.
From the West Yorkshire site, I particularly like:
"Do I have to give officers my name and address?
If you are stopped the officers will ask you some simple questions such as your name, where you live and where you are going. Unless they are reporting you for a suspected crime, you don't have to give them these details, but it makes sense to co-operate. If you are innocent you have nothing to fear."
I can't believe an official document actually uses that last phrase!
Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details" Me: "Er... yes actually".
Well said!
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Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...
Best wishes, -- ,, (**)PeeWiglet~~ / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk
Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
But international anarchist/terrorists/bearded ruffians don't use 4 year olds to sneak past the police, so it's bound to be okay! ;-)
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...
....or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying into the States:-
Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-
1. I am a terrorist. 2. I am carrying firearms. 3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al... 4. I am carrying explosives.
It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...
...or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying into the States:-
Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-
1. I am a terrorist. 2. I am carrying firearms. 3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al... 4. I am carrying explosives.
"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...
Reminds me of buying a Dell computer... when completing the on screen instructions you have to state whether you will be using the computer for any illegal or terrorist activities.... DUH!
Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?
In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
On 07/06/2005 00:09:37 Jon Senior jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:
Today I went for a ride after work. A fairly uneventful ride in which I discovered two new cycle paths (One was an alternative to the Water of Leith Walkway, the other; a gentle sweeping descent to South Queensferry). Having bought some nanas in South Queensferry, I pottered up the hill to eat them and look out over the bridges.
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But I didn't reckon on the G8! I noticed the policeman as I stopped, but didn't realise he was approaching until I started eating.
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Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details" Me: "Er... yes actually".
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To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - " "😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name and address so that they could look me up in their database of known terrorists.
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Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is well within the abilities of the average four year old?
Maybe they had been tipped off about possible nanna attacks?
Or it could be that you are cyclist scum and therefore very likely to be a card carrying anarchist. --
Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details" Me: "Er... yes actually".
Long hair, recumbent bicycle, wicker basket, loaded banana...
Dangerous non-conformist, and just the sort of person Charles Clarke is out to get. You won't be able to tell them to sod off soon, you'll be expected to flash your HMG chip and pin.
Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details" Me: "Er... yes actually".
Long hair, recumbent bicycle, wicker basket, loaded banana...
Dangerous non-conformist, and just the sort of person Charles Clarke is out to get. You won't be able to tell them to sod off soon, you'll be expected to flash your HMG chip and pin.
Yes, next step after compulsory helmets will be compulsory "sensible" bikes. We'll all be forced to ride uprights with three speed hubs and chain guards to the polling stations.
Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1 @dux.dundee.ac.uk:
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Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?
In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...
Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell guns.
Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1 @dux.dundee.ac.uk:
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Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?
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In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...
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Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell guns.
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Graeme
If you go to a gun fair in the U.S., at least in most States, you can buy a fully automatic weapon and ammo, and no verification or security checks are required. --
Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and scary looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell guns.
All the big outdoor stores I've aver been to in the US (by "big" here I'm talking B&Q size sheds) have a gun department. And when you consider the extent to which hunting is a popular outdoor pastime, it's not surprising. Or of itself, especially worrying: a hunting rifle isn't actually /that/ much use in typical criminal activities where it's threatening people combined with ease of concealment that counts rather than long range accuracy. Shotguns more so, granted, but shotguns aren't that unusual in the UK. You can buy one in the gun shop in the middle of Dundee...
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1 @dux.dundee.ac.uk:
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Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?
In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...
Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell guns.
Graeme
A long while ago my dad bought a rifle at Kmart. It was a stirling semi auto in .22 RMF
To our amazement it turned out to be a full auto. And a dangerous POS
