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  1. I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating too
    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted to
    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I think
    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired up
    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights. After
    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting worse
    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_ managed
    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio, I'm
    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  2. Luna wrote:
    || Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say
    || wish me luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys,
    || all of you on here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    Eeww....YGG!

  3. Luna,,,,,,,I too tried to quit smoking last year,,,,,,with the help of
    Zyban, I did good, quit for 5 months,,,but my weight went up,,,my Dr. was
    not too happy,,,,,he said he wanted me to lose the weight, get down to a
    normal size, and then quit,,,,,,,so I did start back smoking,,,,,,and will
    follow orders...it's hard to quit 2 bad habits at a time,,,,we take on more
    than we can chew...Good luck to you,,,,,,,,,i'm glad to see you're
    recommitting with new resolve,,,,so am I..You've got the right
    attitude,,,,,,,you go girl!

    --
    Started LC Sept 26/04
    189/172.5/125
    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating
    too
    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted
    to
    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I
    think
    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired
    up
    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.
    After
    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting
    worse
    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_
    managed
    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,
    I'm
    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish
    me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  4. Luna,

    Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
    first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
    are!) a big inspiration to me.

    I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at a
    time is overwhelming.

    Keep at it!

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186.8/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating


    too

    Quoted message said:

    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted


    to

    Quoted message said:

    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I


    think

    Quoted message said:

    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired


    up

    Quoted message said:

    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.


    After

    Quoted message said:

    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting


    worse

    Quoted message said:

    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_


    managed

    Quoted message said:

    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish


    me

    Quoted message said:

    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  5. : Luna,,,,,,,I too tried to quit smoking last year,,,,,,with the help of
    : Zyban, I did good, quit for 5 months,,,but my weight went up,,,my Dr. was
    : not too happy,,,,,he said he wanted me to lose the weight, get down to a
    : normal size, and then quit,,,,,,,so I did start back smoking,,,,,,and will
    : follow orders...it's hard to quit 2 bad habits at a time,,,,we take on
    more
    : than we can chew...Good luck to you,,,,,,,,,i'm glad to see you're
    : recommitting with new resolve,,,,so am I..You've got the right
    : attitude,,,,,,,you go girl!
    :

    Was there a special sale on commas that I missed?

    Pat in TX

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lady o' the house said:

    Luna,

    Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
    first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
    are!) a big inspiration to me.

    I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at a
    time is overwhelming.

    Keep at it!

    Yes, I like Sandy's advice too. Originally I had planned to get to goal
    weight or a little lower before trying to quit smoking, but one day I got
    all fired up and thought "Hey, I can do it! I can do anything!" I still
    think I could quit smoking and lose weight at the same time, if I didn't
    have anything else to do or focus on, like people on those reality shows.
    But I only have so much energy, and it got spread too thin, and everything
    started slowly falling apart.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  7. "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Luna,

    Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
    first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
    are!) a big inspiration to me.

    I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at
    a
    time is overwhelming.

    Keep at it!

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186.8/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    That is why they can smoke in Chem Dep programs. Need to smoke to keep from
    going crazy from the lack of drugs/etoh.

    One thing I never understand tho is this:
    I've been smoking pretty much since 13 yrs old. 1978. and I'll admit
    that I've had some heavier smoking times - big partying days, when my
    "almost"stepdad died totally unexpectedly etc- that could get me up over a
    1/2 ppd (pack per day), but usually I smoke less than 5 cigs/day. I haven't
    had one today an it is nearly 11am.
    So I don't understand why you all have to smoke SO many???? wean your
    nicotine level down. that is what I have done after the 3-4 times that I've
    gone up to a ppd+ (pack per day).
    My DH will put out a smoke and within a minute he might be starting to light
    another one and he won't even realize what he is doing unless I mention it
    (nicely, of course 🙂.

    If I want a smoke I will delay it. (hmm, maybe I should apply this to food
    ya think?) pretty soon it's in the back of my mind like, as soon as I get a
    good, relaxing chance to have a smoke I will and that helps me smoke much
    less than I am capable of.
    HTH

    --
    Lori
    220/160/44
    LC since 1/17/03
    back on track 11/1004 @ 163
    d wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
    http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

  8. Luna,

    Even though I'm half a world away from you, I have to laugh at sometimes
    the similarities. Plus I'm probably old enough to be your mom, although
    I'd have been a young mother at that.

    All this to say...I told my husband 2 days ago, OK, I'm ready to "go for
    it"...final goal and stay there. I came close to my goal before going to
    FL in May but knew I wasn't there "to stay" as I hadn't upped my carb
    level, etc. or worked at maintenance. So, I've been hovering in the 150
    area, which for someone my age, I suppose is fine. I achieved my
    immediate goal of shocking some people when they saw me in June. Now, I'm
    read to go on down to 135 and stay there...settle in there.

    So, Luna, be aware that you aren't the only one out there. I've thought
    about you as I've driven my van around here in Poland. Weird, huh? I don't
    even know you and we are miles apart philosophically. But, I usually can
    connect to your emails and found it interesting that this is where you are
    as well.

    We're pulling for you!

    Becky P.
    http://www.family.solidrockpl.org/html/my_diet_.html

  9. You go girl!

    And I'll add to that you're now doing new resolves in "moderation" compared to
    the past where you were possibly "binging" on new resolves, replacing the old
    pasta, potatoes, whatever you used to eat too much of with quiting, losing, etc.
    We have all witnessed that you can eat in moderation and succeed if you want,
    and we know that you can do your new resolves in moderation and succeed too if
    you want. All the best to you.

    Cheers,
    Ada

    Luna said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating too
    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted to
    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I think
    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired up
    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights. After
    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting worse
    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_ managed
    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio, I'm
    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

  10. I agree that doing one at a time is a smarter act. I'm an ex-jock who took up
    smmoking in college and packed on 50 pounds when I quit ---- um when I quit the
    first time. Smoking is by far the harder of the two. I never miss pasta. I
    often miss cigarettes.

    Also, if I might suggest, try alternating aerobic with the weights. That way
    you give yourself at least a day to recover from the soreness.

    Most importantly, don't beat yourself up when something doesn't go right. It's
    all about learning. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

  11. You CAN quit smoking. If I can do it, you can. The first month was the
    most horrible time of my life. I felt like I was going to die several
    times. But I did it. It's now more than two years on, and I can finally
    say I will never smoke again. Before dieting, before anything. Quit
    smoking. If you put on 10, 20 30, 40 or more pounds, so what. You'll take
    it off later. Smoking is much more dangerous for you than fat, and if you
    are diehard smoker, taking off the pounds is easier than quitting.

    Quit the smokes! It's difficult, you will hate yourself (and me) for many
    weeks, but in the end you will be better. Don't diet again until you've
    been off smoking for at least 6 months. But, I say again, QUIT SMOKING
    FIRST, NOW! Get the patch, or whatever you need, and just do it and keep it
    up. As you know, it's that one cigarette that'll get you started again.
    Just don't have it.

    There.. I think I've said enough. I'll be quiet now.

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating
    too
    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted
    to
    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I
    think
    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired
    up
    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.
    After
    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting
    worse
    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_
    managed
    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,
    I'm
    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish
    me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  12. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish
    me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it.

    Luck anyway - I hope life runs smoothly for you for a while, so you can get
    back in the groove!

    And when you're ready to have a go at smoking again, read Alan Carr's book.
    Did it for hubby and me. Nearly 4 years smoke-free now.

    Nicky.

    --
    HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/80/72
    1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
    T2 DX 05/2004

  13. It's amazing that Darwinian Selection hasn't already weeded you out.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating
    too
    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted
    to
    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I
    think
    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired
    up
    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.
    After
    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting
    worse
    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_
    managed
    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,
    I'm
    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish
    me
    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jim Marnott said:

    You CAN quit smoking. If I can do it, you can. The first month was the
    most horrible time of my life. I felt like I was going to die several
    times. But I did it. It's now more than two years on, and I can finally
    say I will never smoke again. Before dieting, before anything. Quit
    smoking. If you put on 10, 20 30, 40 or more pounds, so what. You'll take
    it off later. Smoking is much more dangerous for you than fat, and if you
    are diehard smoker, taking off the pounds is easier than quitting.

    Quit the smokes! It's difficult, you will hate yourself (and me) for many
    weeks, but in the end you will be better. Don't diet again until you've
    been off smoking for at least 6 months. But, I say again, QUIT SMOKING
    FIRST, NOW! Get the patch, or whatever you need, and just do it and keep it
    up. As you know, it's that one cigarette that'll get you started again.
    Just don't have it.

    There.. I think I've said enough. I'll be quiet now.


    Thanks for the advice, and that's exactly how I felt when I tried my last
    quit. But when the weight started creeping back on, when I felt like my
    eating was getting out of control again, I wasn't ready for how badly that
    would make me feel. In order to keep my sanity enough to function, I can
    only focus on one thing at a time. I've proven that to myself. I chose the
    smoking, but try as I could, I just couldn't help but notice the weight
    gain, and I felt like a loser for not finishing what I'd started. Add that
    to the natural depression that comes with nicotine withdrawals, and add
    that to my history of chronic depression in the past, and well, I'm trying
    it the other way now.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    It's amazing that Darwinian Selection hasn't already weeded you out.

    What makes you say that? Because I'm not perfect? Because I have bad habits
    that I'm trying to overcome and it isn't easy?

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  16. There's no try. There's only do or not do.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    It's amazing that Darwinian Selection hasn't already weeded you out.

    What makes you say that? Because I'm not perfect? Because I have bad
    habits
    that I'm trying to overcome and it isn't easy?

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  17. I did the do and I couldn't handle the doo-doo that came after the do.
    Yours is a good philosophy for the simple minded, but the real world offers
    complexities, such as _how_ to do whatever it is you want to do. For
    example, if eating less and exercising more is all there is to weight loss,
    why chip in with "bread is not low-carb"? It shouldn't matter if a food is
    low-carb or not, if all that matters is eating less of it and exercising
    more.

    There is only do or not do. Sure. But every action has an equal or
    opposite reaction. Focus on solving one problem, and the other ones get
    worse. Try to focus equally on all problems, and new ones are created,
    like depleted emotional reserves, overstress, anxiety, etc.

    Pretending I can handle everything and be perfect all at once doesn't make
    it so.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    There's no try. There's only do or not do.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    It's amazing that Darwinian Selection hasn't already weeded you out.

    What makes you say that? Because I'm not perfect? Because I have bad
    habits
    that I'm trying to overcome and it isn't easy?

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  18. Luna said:

    I did the do and I couldn't handle the doo-doo that came after the do.

    That's a rather clever way of stating it 😉

    Speaking from the perspective of a former smoker and FFID emeritus,
    quitting cold turkey is not something most would want to attempt while
    concurrently attempting to lose fat. However, it would certainly be
    worthwhile to reduce your habit down to a pack or less a day.

    Now that's do-able (at 20 cigs a day, you can certainly butch up
    enough to stretch that out without going nutso) and will provide
    immediate health benefits over what you were smoking before. Later,
    you can gradually cut down further and then quit then you are truly
    ready to do so.

    I'd recommend giving total quitting a serious go about 6+ months after
    goal weight and not before.

    Quoted message said:

    Yours is a good philosophy for the simple minded, but the real world offers
    complexities, such as _how_ to do whatever it is you want to do.

    Personally, I think his (JC's) general philosophy applies regardless
    of real world complexities. Really, that's usually the point.

    Having said that, best to tackle your challenges one at a time. Focus
    on the weight, moderate the cigs for now.

    You can do it!

    You're smart enough, you're good enough...

  19. Good for you Luna. Doing what you did was a good education on how your body
    will react to other foods and you seemed to hang in there for a few months.
    Nice to know what you can and can't do.

    Hope you can get right back into it. I seem to be able to go on and off
    pretty easily and stay around the same weight.

    Curt

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
    stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
    I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating


    too

    Quoted message said:

    much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted


    to

    Quoted message said:

    myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

    It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I


    think

    Quoted message said:

    I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
    when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired


    up

    Quoted message said:

    about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
    point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
    hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
    just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
    it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
    quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
    next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
    swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.


    After

    Quoted message said:

    a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting


    worse

    Quoted message said:

    and I caved.

    Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
    failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_


    managed

    Quoted message said:

    to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
    veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
    potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
    problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

    So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
    loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
    disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
    force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
    work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
    my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
    not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
    food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
    instead.

    Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish


    me

    Quoted message said:

    luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
    here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  20. "Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Luna,

    Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
    first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
    are!) a big inspiration to me.

    I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit
    at a
    time is overwhelming.

    Keep at it!

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186.8/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    That is why they can smoke in Chem Dep programs. Need to smoke to keep
    from going crazy from the lack of drugs/etoh.

    One thing I never understand tho is this:
    I've been smoking pretty much since 13 yrs old. 1978. and I'll admit
    that I've had some heavier smoking times - big partying days, when my
    "almost"stepdad died totally unexpectedly etc- that could get me up over a
    1/2 ppd (pack per day), but usually I smoke less than 5 cigs/day. I
    haven't had one today an it is nearly 11am.
    So I don't understand why you all have to smoke SO many???? wean your
    nicotine level down. that is what I have done after the 3-4 times that
    I've gone up to a ppd+ (pack per day).

    Whooptee doo for you! Don't you think you sound like the people who say "
    Well - why do you eat SO much?" Just eat less, excercise more and you'll
    lose weight and be wonderfull just like me...blah, blah, blah.

    Quoted message said:

    My DH will put out a smoke and within a minute he might be starting to
    light another one and he won't even realize what he is doing unless I
    mention it (nicely, of course 🙂.

    If I want a smoke I will delay it. (hmm, maybe I should apply this to
    food ya think?) pretty soon it's in the back of my mind like, as soon as I
    get a good, relaxing chance to have a smoke I will and that helps me smoke
    much less than I am capable of.
    HTH

    --
    Lori
    220/160/44
    LC since 1/17/03
    back on track 11/1004 @ 163
    d wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
    http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

    I started smoking around 10 years old and by the time i quit I was about 1.5
    packs. At the worst i was up to 2-3 packs a day (in college)

    I quit around age 26 and haven't had 1 in all these years. i'm 33. If i can
    quit anyone can.

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