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  1. I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I have
    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day a
    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream frosting...which
    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

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  2. Try eating less and doing some exercise.

    --
    You don't have a under active thyroid, you have an over active fork.

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    Quoted message said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day


    a

    Quoted message said:

    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream


    frosting...which

    Quoted message said:

    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

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  3. Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix find
    yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some people will tell
    you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is that the substitutes
    are much better than the high carb things and if that's what you need to
    keep you on track, go for it.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Mary Hogan <[email hidden]> stated
    | I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    | initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    | small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but
    | I have since ordered a digital one.
    |
    | My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    | 1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    | few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
    | buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.
    |
    | Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.
    |
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  4. Have you read the book?

    You should go through the kitchen and dispose of all the carby stuff.

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    Quoted message said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day


    a

    Quoted message said:

    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream


    frosting...which

    Quoted message said:

    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

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  5. Yes, at 52 and 350 lbs you don't need to allow yourself to slip. If you
    have too, eat more LC food than carby [censored]. Quit eating potato and cake.

    Mary Hogan wrote:
    :: I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    :: initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were
    :: too small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a
    :: scale...but I have since ordered a digital one.
    ::
    :: My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    :: 1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    :: few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
    :: buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.
    ::
    :: Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.
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  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some people will tell


    you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is that the substitutes
    are much better than the high carb things and if that's what you need to
    keep you on track, go for it.<<

    I agree, some days these things are what keep me on program. My doctor said
    today that I "could cheat" occasionally, but I think once I get that sugar
    rush, I'll be back to my old habits. My blood sugar numbers are
    now almost normal, so I think I'll stay with this WOE for awhile.

  7. Hello,

    Mary Hogan said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and
    the initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that
    were
    too small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a
    scale...but I have since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    few
    bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream
    frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Cake isn't your friend Mary. Your approach, and your description of
    it as a day of "freedom" (as opposed to captivity or imprisonment or
    punishment being the state of low carbing) needs a second look. At
    350 pounds you're morbidly obese. That's not a state one reaches
    eating a bit too much food (I know, I've been there). Your whole
    approach to food has to be redesigned.
    My one tip would be to eat meats and vegetables for the next two
    weeks. Nuts in moderation, dairy as well, and some low carb fruit for
    variety. No days off. Exercise to the best of your abilities as they
    are now and compare how you feel now with how you feel in two weeks.
    Decide you're worth it.

    Take care,
    Carmen

  8. FOB said:

    Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix find
    yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some people will tell
    you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is that the
    substitutes
    are much better than the high carb things and if that's what you need to
    keep you on track, go for it.

    If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small amount
    first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of low carb chocolate
    and spent the better part of a day in the bathroom.

    --
    Bob in CT
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  9. Thank you Carmen....

    "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hello,

    Mary Hogan said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and
    the initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that
    were
    too small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a
    scale...but I have since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    few
    bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream
    frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Cake isn't your friend Mary. Your approach, and your description of
    it as a day of "freedom" (as opposed to captivity or imprisonment or
    punishment being the state of low carbing) needs a second look. At
    350 pounds you're morbidly obese. That's not a state one reaches
    eating a bit too much food (I know, I've been there). Your whole
    approach to food has to be redesigned.
    My one tip would be to eat meats and vegetables for the next two
    weeks. Nuts in moderation, dairy as well, and some low carb fruit for
    variety. No days off. Exercise to the best of your abilities as they
    are now and compare how you feel now with how you feel in two weeks.
    Decide you're worth it.

    Take care,
    Carmen

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  10. I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good? My treats
    during this period were berries in cream with splenda. This seemed to
    satisfy my longing for sugar.

    "Ignoramus19260" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
    buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    you misunderstand what freedom means. Being led by chocolate cake
    addiction is not freedom.

    If you think that 6 days a week you are "unfree" but for one cherished
    day you have "freedom", dieting will get you nowhere.

    What is the reason for your plan to drop weight. Do you want to look
    good, to live long, to feel better, or what?

    i

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  11. Mary Hogan said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I have
    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day a
    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream frosting...which
    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

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    I wasted nearly 2 months "fooling around" trying to do low carb and not
    give up very much.

    It was a waste of time, effort and money.

    I suggest that on reflection, you will eventually come to believe about
    the same thing.... follow the book religiously for a couple of weeks and
    don't "invent" anything.

    Yes, it is hard.

    But so is walking at 350 lbs. And jogging is impossible.

    In the same way, "One Day A Week TO Pig Out" is also impossible.

    Jim

  12. Carmen wrote:
    :: Hi,
    :: On 19-Jul-2004, Bob in CT <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:18:55 GMT, FOB <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :::
    :::: Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix
    :::: find yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some
    :::: people
    :::: will tell you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is
    :::: that the
    :::: substitutes are much better than the high carb things and if
    :::: that's what you
    :::: need to keep you on track, go for it.
    :::
    ::: If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small
    ::: amount first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of low
    ::: carb
    ::: chocolate and spent the better part of a day in the bathroom.
    ::
    :: Silver Lining Alert! Difficult to raid the fridge from the bathroom.
    :: <G>

    No, no it's not if you live alone!!!

  13. Hi,

    Bob in CT said:
    FOB said:

    Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix
    find yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some
    people
    will tell you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is
    that the
    substitutes are much better than the high carb things and if
    that's what you
    need to keep you on track, go for it.

    If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small
    amount first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of low
    carb
    chocolate and spent the better part of a day in the bathroom.

    Silver Lining Alert! Difficult to raid the fridge from the bathroom.
    <G>

    Take care,
    Carmen

  14. Hi,

    Mary Hogan said:

    Thank you Carmen....

    I hope to see you continue to post, Mary.

    take care,
    Carmen

  15. I'm going to make it this time, Carmen..... I've tried everything from
    Weight Watchers....to starvation.

    I like this configuration. The food is everything I desire, I've never
    really liked carbs except sugar.

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    Hi,

    Mary Hogan said:

    Thank you Carmen....

    I hope to see you continue to post, Mary.

    take care,
    Carmen

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  16. No, I'm healthy as a horse. I had a great aunt who lived a ripe happy life
    over 400 lbs. It never bothered her.

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    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    Do you also have any obesity related diseases?

    Joint problems, diabetes or prediabetes, hypertension etc?

    Quoted message said:

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good? My


    treats

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    during this period were berries in cream with splenda. This seemed to
    satisfy my longing for sugar.

    The carb count per day is good when it leads to sustainable weight
    loss.

    How are you exercising?

    i

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  17. On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:48:39 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Carmen wrote:
    :: Hi,
    :: On 19-Jul-2004, Bob in CT <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:18:55 GMT, FOB <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :::
    :::: Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix
    :::: find yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some
    :::: people
    :::: will tell you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is
    :::: that the
    :::: substitutes are much better than the high carb things and if
    :::: that's what you
    :::: need to keep you on track, go for it.
    :::
    ::: If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small
    ::: amount first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of low
    ::: carb
    ::: chocolate and spent the better part of a day in the bathroom.
    ::
    :: Silver Lining Alert! Difficult to raid the fridge from the bathroom.
    :: <G>

    No, no it's not if you live alone!!!

    I remember seeing an MTV Cribs where one lady had a bathroom and a fridge
    .... in her closet.

    I had bought three of the bars, and after spending the day in the bathroom
    decided they weren't worth it. I have tried the Hersheys, which do not
    have maltitol -- the cause of my malady, and it didn't have the same
    effect (although I learned my lesson: I made one small bar last a while).

    --
    Bob in CT
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  18. That's why I recommended what I did, those have erythritol which is highly
    unlikely to produce a laxative effect. I wouldn't recommend anything with
    maltitol in it.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob in CT <[email hidden]> stated
    | On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:18:55 GMT, FOB <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    || Yes, don't eat those things. If you need a sweet or chocolate fix
    || find yourself some ZCarb bars or Hershey's 1 carb bars. Some people
    || will tell you to avoid substitutes and butch up but my feeling is
    || that the substitutes
    || are much better than the high carb things and if that's what you
    || need to keep you on track, go for it.
    ||
    |
    |
    | If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small
    | amount first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of low
    | carb chocolate and spent the better part of a day in the bathroom.
    |
    | --
    | Bob in CT
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  19. FOB said:

    That's why I recommended what I did, those have erythritol which is
    highly
    unlikely to produce a laxative effect. I wouldn't recommend anything
    with
    maltitol in it.

    That's true. I just want to make sure that the original poster, who
    probably doesn't know what a "sugar alcohol" is, doesn't select the wrong
    thing.

    erythritol = good (?)
    maltitol = bad
    lactitol = bad

    These recommendations also change depending on the person. For example,
    maltitol is very bad for me but others are unaffected by it. I don't
    remember hearing that anyone is badly affected by erythritol, but I
    wouldn't doubt that there are people who are.

    --
    Bob in CT
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  20. Hi,

    Roger Zoul said:

    ::: If you do try some low carb chocolate, make sure you try a small
    ::: amount first. I made the mistake of eating two small bars of
    ::: low carb chocolate and spent the better part of a day in the
    bathroom.
    ::
    :: Silver Lining Alert! Difficult to raid the fridge from the
    bathroom.
    :: <G>

    No, no it's not if you live alone!!!

    Aargh! I hope you keep the curtains closed. There's a mental image
    designed to leave lasting scars: a man shuffling through the house
    with his pants down around his ankles as he makes his way towards the
    kitchen. <G>

    Take care,
    Carmen
    PS I think I need to bleach my brain now!

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