Frustrated

In the real world are many different religions as well as many different
deities, which is why I worded things the way I did. You choose to
acknowledge only one God and I am glad you are not turning your back on your
beliefs. They are an important part of who you are. I stand by what I
originally said, "We all have free will". It is our responsibility to use
it wisely.

Regards,
Gunn

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There is only One God. I don't make oaths to Him. I believe Him and I

have

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heard Him for years telling me no...I just tuned Him out...but I'm not

going

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to do that ever again.

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If you believe in oaths, you may want to consider making an oath to the
deity representing whatever religion you practice. You can do it for a

week

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right? Then when the week is up evaluate the situation and decide if it

is

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necessary for you to take another oath. You wouldn't want to be a liar

to

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your God would you?

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Thank you Gunn

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> > I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and

the

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> > initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were

too

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> > small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a

scale...but

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I

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> have
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> >
> > My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving

myself

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1

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day
> a
> > week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few

bites

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of

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> > potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream
> frosting...which
> > made me almost instantly feel sluggish.
> >
> > Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.
>
> Every morning when you wake up and before you eat anything say a

little

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> prayer and this affirmation: "I will stay on plan". We have free

will

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and
> it is often difficult for some people to change, because a part of

them

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> doesn't really want to. You have recognized that you are slipping,

which

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on

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the

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> fence with one foot on one side and your other foot on the other.

You

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are

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> leaning towards the right side, but it may be necessary to start the
> affirmation process. You are in control, not anything or anyone

else.

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> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high

carb

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food
> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate

but

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steer
> >> away from food as reward.
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> >
> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special

occasions

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> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both

if

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> > been especially awesome.
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>
> A bad idea...
>

Why?

Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.

I eat shrimp sometimes as a reward. It's not about the emotional drama,
it's about the financial drama. Well, I guess the financial drama causes
some emotional drama.

Applause! I don't eat lobster as often as I would like because it is cost
prohibitive. However, I will splurge when I meet major goals at the gym or
major accomplishments at work. Volley ball leagues start training next
month. Should be loads of fun and a decent aerobic workout.

Regards,
Gunn

Do you have access to a swimming pool?

Gunn

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I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for too
long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further away, and
walking instead of using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and

stop

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frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop at all.

I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for a
week. I will increase it 2X next week.

It is difficult.
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Mary Hogan <[email hidden]> wrote:
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My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

One day off a week might work if on that day you were doing strenuous
exercise. And I do mean strenuous not just a couple walks around the

block.

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All day bike ride, backpacking in the mountains, building a cinderblock
wall, strenuous weight training, that kind of thing. Other than that all
you're doing is undoing what you've accomplished over the previous six

days.

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Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb

food

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for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but

steer

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away from food as reward.

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isn't

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just about losing weight. It's also about regulating your blood sugar

and

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improving your blood lipid numbers. In other words it's about getting
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Just curious, are you Orthodox or Reform

Regards,
Gunn

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I eat kosher so I am limited...... But I still try variety.

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>> In article

<[email hidden]>,

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>> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high

carb

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> food
>> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to

celebrate

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but

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> steer
>> >> away from food as reward.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special

occasions

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> I
>> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both

if

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> I've
>> > been especially awesome.
>> >
>>
>> A bad idea...
>>
>
> Why?

Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.

i

Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money wise)

every

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once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I can't
have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more

enjoyable.

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I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have good
food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not of

course

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the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get involved too.

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Michelle Levin
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I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3

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I am an oddball, Gunnloth. I am not Jewish, My sister is a Torah Scholar
who studies Torah at least 6 hours a day, but talks God every second.

We used to be a distant family, but since this Torah thing, our lives have
changed. I used to think my sister was stupid, but now you can't beat her
logic. It's amazing.

I finally figured out that she had a good thing going, and that I think is
why I somehow know I have a chance. I can't put it into words.

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Just curious, are you Orthodox or Reform

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Gunn

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I eat kosher so I am limited...... But I still try variety.

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In article <[email hidden]>,
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> In article <[email hidden]>, JC Der

Koenig

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> wrote:
> >
> > "Ignoramus14841" <[email hidden]> wrote in

message

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> > news:[email hidden]...
> >> In article

<[email hidden]>,

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> > Luna wrote:
> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with

high

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carb

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> > food
> >> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to

celebrate

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but

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> > steer
> >> >> away from food as reward.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special

occasions

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> > I
> >> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes

both

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if

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> > I've
> >> > been especially awesome.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A bad idea...
> >>
> >
> > Why?
>
> Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.
>
> i

Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money wise)

every

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once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I

can't

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have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more

enjoyable.

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I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have

good

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food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not of

course

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the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get involved

too.

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--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3

flaws.

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I understand where you are coming from. I really like the concept of
spending a full day without doing anything that resembles work.
Realistically, it is not something I can do once a week, however, I am doing
it on a bi-weekly basis. It is totally revitalizing!

Regards,
Gunn

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I am an oddball, Gunnloth. I am not Jewish, My sister is a Torah Scholar
who studies Torah at least 6 hours a day, but talks God every second.

We used to be a distant family, but since this Torah thing, our lives have
changed. I used to think my sister was stupid, but now you can't beat her
logic. It's amazing.

I finally figured out that she had a good thing going, and that I think is
why I somehow know I have a chance. I can't put it into words.

"Gunnloth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just curious, are you Orthodox or Reform

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Gunn

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I eat kosher so I am limited...... But I still try variety.

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> In article <[email hidden]>,
> Ignoramus14841 <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[email hidden]>, JC Der
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > "Ignoramus14841" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
> > > news:[email hidden]...
> > >> In article
<[email hidden]>,
> > > Luna wrote:
> > >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > >> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with

high

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carb
> > > food
> > >> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to

celebrate

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but
> > > steer
> > >> >> away from food as reward.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On

special

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occasions
> > > I
> > >> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes

both

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if
> > > I've
> > >> > been especially awesome.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> A bad idea...
> > >>
> > >
> > > Why?
> >
> > Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.
> >
> > i
>
> Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money wise)

every

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> once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I

can't

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> have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more
enjoyable.
> I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have

good

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> food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not of
course
> the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get involved

too.

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>
> --
> Michelle Levin
> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
>
> I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3

flaws.

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From: Mary Hogan (Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:14:28 -0400)
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I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been
sedentary for too long. I'm going to a big superstore
every day, parking further away, and walking instead of
using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and stop
frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop
at all.

That's a good initial goal. It won't do much in the way of burning calories
(so don't give yourself extra food as a reward for doing it), but it is a
necessary step on your road to better conditioning.

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I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for a
week. I will increase it 2X next week.

My initial thought was that I hope this is safe for you considering that
you said you normally need an electric chair to make it across a flat
parking lot.

Don't focus on the difficulty of the task. What you're after is an elevated
heart rate for longer and longer periods of time, as in your first example.
You also want to avoid setbacks (physically or emotionally). When you're
able to do something for at least 20-30 minutes, then you can look for
something more difficult to do.

Exercise is the coolest. As much as people might think effort is the #1
ingredient, my experience tells me patience and consistency are #1 and #2,
with effort being #3. The effort is only a drag if you're not patient and
consistent. Otherwise, your body will grow into the exercise.

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From: Mary Hogan (Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:14:28 -0400)

Exercise is the coolest. As much as people might think effort is the #1
ingredient, my experience tells me patience and consistency are #1 and #2,
with effort being #3. The effort is only a drag if you're not patient and
consistent. Otherwise, your body will grow into the exercise.

I'm impressed.

In article said:

Exercise is the coolest. As much as people might think effort is the #1
ingredient, my experience tells me patience and consistency are #1 and #2,
with effort being #3. The effort is only a drag if you're not patient and
consistent. Otherwise, your body will grow into the exercise.

You made an excellent point, although I would add "safety" as #2.

i

No, you have it all wrong....she gets up two hours early.....she studies
until midnight. It isn't easy. I admire her.

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I understand where you are coming from. I really like the concept of
spending a full day without doing anything that resembles work.
Realistically, it is not something I can do once a week, however, I am

doing

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it on a bi-weekly basis. It is totally revitalizing!

Regards,
Gunn

"Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am an oddball, Gunnloth. I am not Jewish, My sister is a Torah

Scholar

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who studies Torah at least 6 hours a day, but talks God every second.

We used to be a distant family, but since this Torah thing, our lives

have

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changed. I used to think my sister was stupid, but now you can't beat

her

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logic. It's amazing.

I finally figured out that she had a good thing going, and that I think

is

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why I somehow know I have a chance. I can't put it into words.

"Gunnloth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just curious, are you Orthodox or Reform

Regards,
Gunn

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>
>
> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > Ignoramus14841 <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[email hidden]>, JC

Der

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> Koenig
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Ignoramus14841" <[email hidden]> wrote

in

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> message
> > > > news:[email hidden]...
> > > >> In article
> <[email hidden]>,
> > > > Luna wrote:
> > > >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > > >> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself

with

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high

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> carb
> > > > food
> > > >> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to
celebrate
> but
> > > > steer
> > > >> >> away from food as reward.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On

special

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> occasions
> > > > I
> > > >> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or

sometimes

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both

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> if
> > > > I've
> > > >> > been especially awesome.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> A bad idea...
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > >
> > > Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.
> > >
> > > i
> >
> > Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money

wise)

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every
> > once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I

can't

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> > have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more
> enjoyable.
> > I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have

good

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> > food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not

of

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> course
> > the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get

involved

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too.

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> >
> > --
> > Michelle Levin
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
> >
> > I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
flaws.
>
>
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I think the electric chair was because I became lazy.

No, I am lazy. But I'm trying to be less lazy.

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Quoted message said:

From: Mary Hogan (Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:14:28 -0400)
MsgId: <[email hidden]>

I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been
sedentary for too long. I'm going to a big superstore
every day, parking further away, and walking instead of
using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and stop
frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop
at all.

That's a good initial goal. It won't do much in the way of burning

calories

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(so don't give yourself extra food as a reward for doing it), but it is a
necessary step on your road to better conditioning.

Quoted message said:

I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

week. I will increase it 2X next week.

My initial thought was that I hope this is safe for you considering that
you said you normally need an electric chair to make it across a flat
parking lot.

Don't focus on the difficulty of the task. What you're after is an

elevated

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heart rate for longer and longer periods of time, as in your first

example.

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You also want to avoid setbacks (physically or emotionally). When you're
able to do something for at least 20-30 minutes, then you can look for
something more difficult to do.

Exercise is the coolest. As much as people might think effort is the #1
ingredient, my experience tells me patience and consistency are #1 and #2,
with effort being #3. The effort is only a drag if you're not patient and
consistent. Otherwise, your body will grow into the exercise.

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