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  1. If you've never really liked carbs, then why do you feel that you need
    Dreamfield's Pasta?

    --
    You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

    "Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm going to make it this time, Carmen..... I've tried everything from
    Weight Watchers....to starvation.

    I like this configuration. The food is everything I desire, I've never
    really liked carbs except sugar.

    "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    Mary Hogan said:

    Thank you Carmen....

    I hope to see you continue to post, Mary.

    take care,
    Carmen

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  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I have
    since ordered a digital one.

    Hi Mary, welcome to the group!

    Quoted message said:

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day a
    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream frosting...which
    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Yes, don't do that. Seriously, if you try the one-day-a-week method and then see
    adverse effects from it, that means it's not working, at least not for YOU. Not
    only will you feel like [censored] from the sudden influx of carbs, but it starts to
    refill the glycogen store in your liver, adding water weight. This can be very
    discouraging. During induction you deplete the store of glycogen in the liver
    before your body turns to fat for energy. Each molecule of glycogen is bound to
    4-5 molecules of water, which are shed when that molecule is burned for energy,
    hence the impressive initial loss of weight. It IS mostly water that's lost
    during that period. After THAT, you'll start to lose FAT. Refilling the
    glycogen store halts the fat loss until it's depleted again, so it's
    counterproductive.

    Some people manage to do okay with a "day off", and some people don't. The ones
    that don't seem to be affected much by it usually exercise heavily the next day
    to hasten the burning off process. It can take a couple of days to get back to
    fat-burning, so you need to decide if it's worth it to you to deal with that on a
    regular basis.

    In any case, it would be much better for you in the long run to at least wait a
    month or three before trying out deviations so that you have established good,
    solid eating habits. By then it IS a deviation, rather than the norm.

    --
    Saffire
    205/150/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  3. "Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day


    a

    Quoted message said:

    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream


    frosting...which

    Quoted message said:

    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Every morning when you wake up and before you eat anything say a little
    prayer and this affirmation: "I will stay on plan". We have free will and
    it is often difficult for some people to change, because a part of them
    doesn't really want to. You have recognized that you are slipping, which is
    something that took courage and brutal honesty. I see you sitting on the
    fence with one foot on one side and your other foot on the other. You are
    leaning towards the right side, but it may be necessary to start the
    affirmation process. You are in control, not anything or anyone else.

    Regards,
    Gunn

  4. Quoted message said:

    <snip> No days off. Exercise to the best of your abilities as they
    are now and compare how you feel now with how you feel in two weeks.
    Decide you're worth it. Carmen

    Carmen's sure on target:

    The exercise is way, way important. And there's GREAT NEWS on that
    front -- a little exercise goes a long, long way.

    My wife and I, several hundred of pounds ago, started out not being
    able to walk 15 minutes. In an amazingly short time (a few weeks), we
    were up to 45-60 minutes a day and the pounds just flew off.

    And we weren't trail running or anything. We started out ambling and
    worked up to something that was a just a brisk walk.

    BTW, exercise does sometimes hurt when you start. That's normal and
    it goes away. Two pieces of advice: (1) Be careful with the use of
    aspirin and all its friends. Recent research seems to indicate that
    the nonsteroidal anti-inflamatory drugs slow healing and strengthening
    of muscle tissue. They may provide temporary relief, but they may
    prolong the pain. (2) Consider taking glucosamine, chondritin, and
    their friends. They generally won't provide immediate relief, but
    some folks find that after a month or two they are remarkably helpful.

    Cheers, Wolf.

    [ Disclaimer: the "Dr." is a Ph.D., not a M.D. This isn't
    professional advice -- it's just what I've learned from
    personal experience and reading. -W ]

    --
    Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
    Hundred Peaks Section Webmaster http://angeles.sierraclub.org/hps/
    P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 [email hidden]

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mary Hogan said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    Well, the problem is, for some people sugar and starch are an addiction.
    For me they act like that. If I have a little, I want more. If I have
    more, I want even more. But, if I go a long time with no high carb foods,
    I don't want them as much. Occasional treats are not a bad thing, but
    maybe for you once a week is too often.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  6. I also count sugar alcohol carbs according to what analysis has indicated
    they digest as which is:
    cal/gram
    Erythritol 0.2
    Isomalt 2.0
    Lactitol 2.0
    Maltitol 2.1-3.0
    Mannitol 1.6
    Polydextrose 1.0
    Sorbitol 2.6
    Xylitol 2.4-3.0

    You can see that Erythritol is negligible in calories. Here's a more in
    depth review of its properties:

    Home Polyols/Reduced Calorie Sweeteners

    Erythritol is a good-tasting bulk sweetener which is suitable for a variety
    of reduced- calorie and sugar-free foods. It has been part of the human diet
    for thousands of years due to its presence in fruits and other foods.
    Erythritol has a high digestive tolerance, is safe for people with diabetes,
    and does not promote tooth decay.

    Erythritol, a polyol (sugar alcohol), is currently used as a bulk sweetener
    in reduced calorie foods. It has been part of the human diet for thousands
    of years as it is present in fruits such as pears, melons and grapes, as
    well as foods such as mushrooms and fermentation-derived foods such as wine,
    soy sauce and cheese. Since 1990, erythritol has been commercially produced
    and added to foods and beverages to provide sweetness, as well as enhance
    their taste and texture. Erythritol is available in the U.S. from Cerestar
    USA and Cargill Inc. - Corn Milling Division.

    Erythritol is a white crystalline powder that is odorless, with a clean
    sweet taste that is similar to sucrose. It is approximately 70% as sweet as
    sucrose and flows easily due to its non-hygroscopic character. Like other
    polyols, erythritol does not promote tooth decay and is safe for people with
    diabetes. However, erythritol's caloric value of 0.2 calories per gram and
    high digestive tolerance distinguishes it from some other polyols. It has
    approximately 7 to 13% the calories of other polyols and 5% the calories of
    sucrose. Because erythritol is rapidly absorbed in the small intestine and
    rapidly eliminated by the body within 24 hours, laxative side effects
    sometimes associated with excessive polyol consumption are unlikely when
    consuming erythritol containing foods.

    A GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) affirmation petition submitted by a
    consortium of erythritol manufacturers (Cerestar Holding B.V., Mitsubishi
    Chemical Corporation and Nikken Chemicals Co.) was accepted for filing by
    the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on January 15, 1997. This allows
    manufacturers to produce and sell erythritol containing foods in the United
    States. Erythritol is regulated as a direct food ingredient in Japan and
    since 1990 it has been used in many Japanese food categories.

    Benefits of Erythritol

    Low in calories: Erythritol has a very low caloric content; its value is 0.2
    calories per gram for food labeling purposes in the United States and 0
    (zero) calories per gram for food labeling purposes in Japan. This very low
    calorie value is due to erythritol's unique absorption and elimination
    process which does not require the metabolism of erythritol. Thus,
    erythritol is uniquely qualified as a very low calorie bulk sweetener for
    formulating "light" and "reduced calorie" products which require a 25% or
    more calorie reduction from the standard formulation.

    High digestive tolerance: Erythritol is rapidly absorbed in the small
    intestine due to its small molecular size and structure. Several clinical
    studies conducted in Europe and Japan have shown that more than 90% of
    ingested erythritol is absorbed and excreted unchanged in urine within a
    24-hour period. This digestive pathway allows less than 5% of ingested
    erythritol to reach the large intestine and be fermented into volatile fatty
    acids or metabolized into carbon dioxide. As a result, foods containing
    substantial amounts of erythritol are very unlikely to cause gaseous and
    laxation side effects. A recent clinical study concluded daily consumption
    of 1 gram per kilogram body weight is well tolerated by adults as compared
    to sucrose containing foods.

    Safe for people with diabetes: Single dose and 14-day clinical studies
    demonstrate erythritol does not affect blood serum glucose or insulin
    levels. Clinical studies conducted in people with diabetes conclude that
    erythritol may be safely used to replace sucrose in foods formulated
    specifically for people with diabetes. Of course, those with diabetes should
    consider the impact on their diet of other ingredients used in foods
    sweetened with erythritol.

    Does not cause tooth decay: Erythritol like other polyols is resistant to
    metabolism by oral bacteria which break down sugars and starches to produce
    acids which may lead to tooth enamel loss and cavities formation. They are,
    therefore, non-cariogenic. The usefulness of polyols, including erythritol,
    as alternatives to sugars and as part of a comprehensive program including
    proper dental hygiene has been recognized by the American Dental
    Association. The FDA has approved the use of a "does not promote tooth
    decay" health claim in labeling for sugar-free foods that contain erythritol
    or other polyols.
    ERYTHRITOL

    Bulk sweetener which can be blended with low-calorie sweeteners (e.g.,
    acesulfame potassium and aspartame) and/or other polyols (e.g., sorbitol and
    xylitol)
    Clean sweet taste with no aftertaste
    Reduced-calorie sweetener with only 0.2 calories per gram
    Potential use in a variety of low-calorie, low-fat and sugar-free
    foods--from candies to yogurts
    Beneficial for people with diabetes because it does not raise blood glucose
    or insulin levels
    Does not contribute to the formation of dental caries

    Safety

    The safety of erythritol as a food ingredient under conditions of its
    intended use is substantiated by a number of human and animal safety
    studies, including short- and long- term feeding, multi-generation
    reproduction and teratology studies.

    The U.S. GRAS affirmation petition states erythritol is intended for use as
    flavor enhancer, formulation aid, humectant, nutritive sweetener, stabilizer
    and thickener, suquestrant and texturizer. The petition lists maximum
    erythritol use levels of 100% in sugar substitutes, 50% in hard candies, 40%
    in soft candies, 1.5% in reduced and low calorie beverages, 60% in fat based
    creams for cookies, cakes and pastries, 7% in dietetic cookies and wafers,
    and 60% in chewing gum.

    Erythritol has been used in Japan since 1990 in candies, chocolates, soft
    drinks, chewing gums, yogurts, fillings, cookie coatings, jellies, jams and
    sugar substitutes. Petitions have been submitted to additional governmental
    agencies throughout the world to expand the use of erythritol.

    Multiple Ingredient Approach to Calorie Control

    Erythritol blends well with other polyols and flavors and can mask
    off-flavors such as bitterness sometimes associated with other low-calorie
    sweeteners. Erythritol is synergistic with low-calorie sweeteners such as
    aspartame and acesulfame potassium, resulting in a sweetener combination
    which is sweeter than the sum of the individual components and with an
    improved taste profile with superior taste, economic and stability
    advantages.

    For further information on erythritol, visit
    www.eridex.com and www.mcsweeteners.com

    More Information on Low-Calorie Sweeteners:

    Benefits of Use
    Health Professionals' Opinions
    Multiple Ingredient Approach
    Questions & Answers

    Copyright © 2004 Calorie Control Council

    Permission to reprint information in whole or in part contained on this site
    is granted, provided customary credit is given.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob in CT <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | That's true. I just want to make sure that the original poster, who
    | probably doesn't know what a "sugar alcohol" is, doesn't select the
    | wrong thing.
    |
    | erythritol = good (?)
    | maltitol = bad
    | lactitol = bad
    |
    | These recommendations also change depending on the person. For
    | example, maltitol is very bad for me but others are unaffected by it.
    | I don't remember hearing that anyone is badly affected by erythritol,
    | but I wouldn't doubt that there are people who are.
    |
    | --
    | Bob in CT
    | Remove ".x" to reply

  7. This is my plan today. It is 4:08 and I just finished the peaches.
    Everything else went like clockwork and the oatmeal actually held me over
    well until around 1:00

    Now, I haven't had oatmeal for weeks but I had a quarter of a cup with a pat
    of butter and two tbsp cream.
    I had a carb yogurt...the small cup at 3g. 10:00am

    For lunch I had 7oz ground chuck burger grilled in a tbsp of land o lakes
    sweet spread and 1/2cup, measured, less than actually, two tbsp cream and a
    tsp splenda. 1:30pm

    I just had a snack of 1/2 small peach. 4:00pm

    Tonight I'm going to have yellow fin flounder, I measure 1/4 cup but I use
    less than half of that Progresso bread crumbs, a cup of broccoli with melted
    cheddar. 5:30pm

    8:00 snack tonight I will have 1/2 cup of raspberries in the splenda cream
    mix. 8:00pm

    "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]


    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good?

    Depends. Which plan are you on (Atkins, South Beach, SugarBusters, etc.)?


    You

    Quoted message said:

    have to have a PLAN, even if it's one of your own design. I only know the
    specifics of Atkins, so my advice comes from that vantage point. On


    Atkins, you

    Quoted message said:

    start out at only 20 grams of carbs per day for the first 2 weeks, and


    those

    Quoted message said:

    carbs are from a specific list of foods (aka, Induction). After that, you


    move

    Quoted message said:

    into Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL) by adding 5 more grams per day each week


    until you

    Quoted message said:

    either stop losing or stop being in ketosis. You are also allowed a


    larger

    Quoted message said:

    variety of foods and can add nuts and low-glycemic fruits such as


    strawberries,

    Quoted message said:

    blueberries, raspberries, etc. At that point, you back off by 5 carbs per


    day

    Quoted message said:

    and stay there until you get to the pre-maintenance phase. Low carb seems


    to be

    Quoted message said:

    semi-officially defined as eating less than 100 carbs per day. It seems


    that

    Quoted message said:

    most people, however, need to stay below 50 carbs per day in order to


    lose. I

    Quoted message said:

    seem to do best at 35-40 carbs per day, but sometimes go up to 50. I lose


    very

    Quoted message said:

    slowly in ANY case, so it's hard for me to pin it down so precisely.

    Quoted message said:

    My treats
    during this period were berries in cream with splenda. This seemed to
    satisfy my longing for sugar.

    That's GOOD! Keep reading here and you'll find all kinds of ideas for


    low-carb

    Quoted message said:

    sweet treats. There is a LOT of support, info and inspiration here!


    Everyone

    Quoted message said:

    has their own style, so read for a while to get a feel for them. Some


    people are

    Quoted message said:

    sweet and mellow. Some people can be abrupt or abrasive, but mean well.


    Some

    Quoted message said:

    are blowhards. Some are trolls. JC der Koenig is the most persistent


    troll --

    Quoted message said:

    he WILL insult you and tell you that you aren't worth it and should just


    give up

    Quoted message said:

    now -- he's been known, more than once, to tell suicidal people to kill
    themselves. Clearly he is a damaged and bitter person. He is NOT


    representative

    Quoted message said:

    of the majority of posters here, though, so ignore and killfile him.

    --
    Saffire
    205/150/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  8. Boy, I saw your pictures...you really have been successful. This gives me
    hope. You were never as heavy as I am now, but...it still gives me hope.

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mary Hogan said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    Well, the problem is, for some people sugar and starch are an addiction.
    For me they act like that. If I have a little, I want more. If I have
    more, I want even more. But, if I go a long time with no high carb foods,
    I don't want them as much. Occasional treats are not a bad thing, but
    maybe for you once a week is too often.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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  9. No...it isn't an average.

    It is just for the days I follow the plan. But I think I will change my
    thinking about the free day.

    "Ignoramus19260" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day...

    Is this 54 a day including all the cakes and goodies that you eat on
    your "freedom to eat cake" day, or 54 a day without considering your
    "freedom day".

    i

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  10. This is the kind of information I was hoping for. The truth is, I realize
    after only two weeks that I feel better without the carbs. I also felt like
    I bloated after the day....remember I only ate the cake and a bit of potato.
    I followed pretty close. But I felt bloated which did discourage me a bit.

    "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]


    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    since ordered a digital one.

    Hi Mary, welcome to the group!

    Quoted message said:

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1


    day a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream


    frosting...which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Yes, don't do that. Seriously, if you try the one-day-a-week method and


    then see

    Quoted message said:

    adverse effects from it, that means it's not working, at least not for


    YOU. Not

    Quoted message said:

    only will you feel like [censored] from the sudden influx of carbs, but it


    starts to

    Quoted message said:

    refill the glycogen store in your liver, adding water weight. This can be


    very

    Quoted message said:

    discouraging. During induction you deplete the store of glycogen in the


    liver

    Quoted message said:

    before your body turns to fat for energy. Each molecule of glycogen is


    bound to

    Quoted message said:

    4-5 molecules of water, which are shed when that molecule is burned for


    energy,

    Quoted message said:

    hence the impressive initial loss of weight. It IS mostly water that's


    lost

    Quoted message said:

    during that period. After THAT, you'll start to lose FAT. Refilling the
    glycogen store halts the fat loss until it's depleted again, so it's
    counterproductive.

    Some people manage to do okay with a "day off", and some people don't.


    The ones

    Quoted message said:

    that don't seem to be affected much by it usually exercise heavily the


    next day

    Quoted message said:

    to hasten the burning off process. It can take a couple of days to get


    back to

    Quoted message said:

    fat-burning, so you need to decide if it's worth it to you to deal with


    that on a

    Quoted message said:

    regular basis.

    In any case, it would be much better for you in the long run to at least


    wait a

    Quoted message said:

    month or three before trying out deviations so that you have established


    good,

    Quoted message said:

    solid eating habits. By then it IS a deviation, rather than the norm.

    --
    Saffire
    205/150/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  11. Oatmeal, peaches, bread crumbs, and raspberries are not low carb.

    Idiot.

    --
    Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
    breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen

    "Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is my plan today. It is 4:08 and I just finished the peaches.
    Everything else went like clockwork and the oatmeal actually held me over
    well until around 1:00

    Now, I haven't had oatmeal for weeks but I had a quarter of a cup with a


    pat

    Quoted message said:

    of butter and two tbsp cream.
    I had a carb yogurt...the small cup at 3g. 10:00am

    For lunch I had 7oz ground chuck burger grilled in a tbsp of land o lakes
    sweet spread and 1/2cup, measured, less than actually, two tbsp cream and


    a

    Quoted message said:

    tsp splenda. 1:30pm

    I just had a snack of 1/2 small peach. 4:00pm

    Tonight I'm going to have yellow fin flounder, I measure 1/4 cup but I use
    less than half of that Progresso bread crumbs, a cup of broccoli with


    melted

    Quoted message said:

    cheddar. 5:30pm

    8:00 snack tonight I will have 1/2 cup of raspberries in the splenda cream
    mix. 8:00pm

    "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]


    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good?

    Depends. Which plan are you on (Atkins, South Beach, SugarBusters,


    etc.)?

    Quoted message said:

    You

    Quoted message said:

    have to have a PLAN, even if it's one of your own design. I only know


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    specifics of Atkins, so my advice comes from that vantage point. On


    Atkins, you

    Quoted message said:

    start out at only 20 grams of carbs per day for the first 2 weeks, and


    those

    Quoted message said:

    carbs are from a specific list of foods (aka, Induction). After that,


    you

    Quoted message said:

    move

    Quoted message said:

    into Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL) by adding 5 more grams per day each week


    until you

    Quoted message said:

    either stop losing or stop being in ketosis. You are also allowed a


    larger

    Quoted message said:

    variety of foods and can add nuts and low-glycemic fruits such as


    strawberries,

    Quoted message said:

    blueberries, raspberries, etc. At that point, you back off by 5 carbs


    per

    Quoted message said:

    day

    Quoted message said:

    and stay there until you get to the pre-maintenance phase. Low carb


    seems

    Quoted message said:

    to be

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    semi-officially defined as eating less than 100 carbs per day. It seems


    that

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    most people, however, need to stay below 50 carbs per day in order to


    lose. I

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    seem to do best at 35-40 carbs per day, but sometimes go up to 50. I


    lose

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    very

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    slowly in ANY case, so it's hard for me to pin it down so precisely.

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    My treats
    during this period were berries in cream with splenda. This seemed to
    satisfy my longing for sugar.

    That's GOOD! Keep reading here and you'll find all kinds of ideas for


    low-carb

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    sweet treats. There is a LOT of support, info and inspiration here!


    Everyone

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    has their own style, so read for a while to get a feel for them. Some


    people are

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    sweet and mellow. Some people can be abrupt or abrasive, but mean well.


    Some

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    are blowhards. Some are trolls. JC der Koenig is the most persistent


    troll --

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    he WILL insult you and tell you that you aren't worth it and should just


    give up

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    now -- he's been known, more than once, to tell suicidal people to kill
    themselves. Clearly he is a damaged and bitter person. He is NOT


    representative

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    of the majority of posters here, though, so ignore and killfile him.

    --
    Saffire
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    Atkins since 6/14/03
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  12. Thank you Gunn

    "Gunnloth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I


    have

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    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1


    day

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    a

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    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream


    frosting...which

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    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Every morning when you wake up and before you eat anything say a little
    prayer and this affirmation: "I will stay on plan". We have free will


    and

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    it is often difficult for some people to change, because a part of them
    doesn't really want to. You have recognized that you are slipping, which


    is

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    something that took courage and brutal honesty. I see you sitting on the
    fence with one foot on one side and your other foot on the other. You are
    leaning towards the right side, but it may be necessary to start the
    affirmation process. You are in control, not anything or anyone else.

    Regards,
    Gunn

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  13. Mary Hogan said:

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
    1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
    few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
    buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Guy walks into a doctor's office, hits himself in the face with his
    fist, and says, "Doc, it hurts when I do this." Doctor says, "Then
    don't do that."

    If I go off-plan one day a week, that's enough to stop my weight
    loss. A single day isn't enough to bring back all my high-carb
    symptoms -- headache, heartburn, fatigue, mental fog, etc. -- that
    takes 2-3 high-carb days. But one day is enough to kick me out of
    fat-burning mode for a week, and keep the cravings strong all the
    time. Some people can get away with it, and some can't.

    --
    Aaron -- [email hidden] -- 285/225/200

    "Invader's blood marches through my veins, like giant radioactive
    rubber pants! The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!" --
    Invader Zim

  14. You said you're healthy as a horse but you aren't, otherwise you won't feel
    sluggish after a slice of cake.

    You have to stop having a few bites here and there. Stop cooking potatoes, have
    some steam veg instead (careful that some veg are high carb).

    Also try to avoid processed meat and sausages, especially during induction.
    Often they have too much carb for induction and too much fat for those who are
    trying to lose.

    Mary Hogan said:

    I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
    initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
    small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I have
    since ordered a digital one.

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day a
    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream frosting...which
    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

  15. Cubit said:

    Have you read the book?

    You should go through the kitchen and dispose of all the carby stuff.

    Not always easy if the OP lives with other people who are not low-carbing.
    --
    Debbie

  16. Mary Hogan said:

    I'm going to make it this time, Carmen..... I've tried everything from
    Weight Watchers....to starvation.

    Hey Mary, I'm also 52 and started out at about the same size as you. I had
    been on LC for several years, and then slipped off the wagon when I could
    not break an 18-month stall, alas.

    But I started back again with a lot more determination this time at the
    beginning of January. That mean's I'm finishing up my 7th month now. The
    progress is slow, but I've learned to stop expecting the big drops. They
    just don't happen. But I weigh myself daily and keep an eye on the average
    trend. I'm down 38 pounds since the beginning of the year, a drop in the
    bucket considering what I have to lose, but every little bit counts.

    Feel free to email me privately if you would like - scall0way @ yahoo.com
    .... I can't do email from the address I use to post to asdlc with.
    --
    Debbie

  17. My mom, who had a stroke 4 years ago, lives with me has actually lost weight
    in the last few weeks which I don't want to see happen, so we are juggling.

    "Debbie Cusick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cubit said:

    Have you read the book?

    You should go through the kitchen and dispose of all the carby stuff.

    Not always easy if the OP lives with other people who are not low-carbing.
    --
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  18. I would love 38 pounds, Debbie. I am determined..... I am determined to
    believe that I can lose 6 pounds a month.... Hey, 38 pounds is almost 10%
    of my current weight.

    Thank you....

    "Debbie Cusick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Mary Hogan said:

    I'm going to make it this time, Carmen..... I've tried everything from
    Weight Watchers....to starvation.

    Hey Mary, I'm also 52 and started out at about the same size as you. I had
    been on LC for several years, and then slipped off the wagon when I could
    not break an 18-month stall, alas.

    But I started back again with a lot more determination this time at the
    beginning of January. That mean's I'm finishing up my 7th month now. The
    progress is slow, but I've learned to stop expecting the big drops. They
    just don't happen. But I weigh myself daily and keep an eye on the average
    trend. I'm down 38 pounds since the beginning of the year, a drop in the
    bucket considering what I have to lose, but every little bit counts.

    Feel free to email me privately if you would like - scall0way @


    yahoo.com

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    ... I can't do email from the address I use to post to asdlc with.
    --
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  19. "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]


    says...

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    I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

    I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

    I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good?

    Depends. Which plan are you on (Atkins, South Beach, SugarBusters, etc.)?


    You

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    have to have a PLAN, even if it's one of your own design. I only know the

    I'm going to suggest that you try South Beach. Mainly because it is working
    for me. I started out at 314 pounds On February 20th and am now at 260.
    The weight continues to come off.

    One of the reasons I'm suggesting South Beach for you is that it is easy to
    do, if you buy the book. You don't count carbs, calories or anything else.
    You eat from a list of foods. Phase I is low carb by anyone's standards.
    Phase II includes things like the oatmeal and fruit you seem to need to eat.

    You do Phase I for two weeks. Your only carbs are low GI veggies. If you
    do it faithfully, the cravings will go away.

    When you go to Phase II you add one grain and one fruit to what you have
    been eating. You might get to add more grains and fruit, and you might not.
    It depends on how things go for you. Fruit is one of my trigger foods, so I
    need to be careful with them. Every once in a while I need to go get a
    piece of cheese to shut the cravings down.

    No matter what diet you finally decide to do, BUY THE BOOK. You aren't
    doing yourself much good trying to pull a plan out of the air. Pick a plan,
    buy the book, and follow what the book says. And you will succeed.


  20. Quoted message said:

    My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1 day a
    week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
    potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream frosting...which
    made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

    Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

    Tips? Don't give yourself that one day.

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    Me- 5'7" 265/181/140
    & hubby- 6' 310/198/180
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