Frustrated

If you believe in oaths, you may want to consider making an oath to the
deity representing whatever religion you practice. You can do it for a week
right? Then when the week is up evaluate the situation and decide if it is
necessary for you to take another oath. You wouldn't want to be a liar to
your God would you?

Regards,
Gunn

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Thank you Gunn

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I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but

I

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have

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since ordered a digital one.

My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1

day

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a

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week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites

of

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potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream

frosting...which

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made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

Every morning when you wake up and before you eat anything say a little
prayer and this affirmation: "I will stay on plan". We have free will

and

Quoted message said:

it is often difficult for some people to change, because a part of them
doesn't really want to. You have recognized that you are slipping,

which

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is

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something that took courage and brutal honesty. I see you sitting on

the

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fence with one foot on one side and your other foot on the other. You

are

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leaning towards the right side, but it may be necessary to start the
affirmation process. You are in control, not anything or anyone else.

Regards,
Gunn

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Mary Hogan <[email hidden]> wrote:
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My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

One day off a week might work if on that day you were doing strenuous
exercise. And I do mean strenuous not just a couple walks around the block.
All day bike ride, backpacking in the mountains, building a cinderblock
wall, strenuous weight training, that kind of thing. Other than that all
you're doing is undoing what you've accomplished over the previous six days.

Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb food
for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but steer
away from food as reward.

Until you know what you're doing you need to follow a plan. Low carb isn't
just about losing weight. It's also about regulating your blood sugar and
improving your blood lipid numbers. In other words it's about getting
healthy, not just getting thin.
--
Jeri
"Take what you need and leave the rest."
- old Usenet proverb

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jeri said:

Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb food
for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but steer
away from food as reward.

Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special occasions I
will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both if I've
been especially awesome.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Mary Hogan said:

I would love 38 pounds, Debbie. I am determined..... I am determined to
believe that I can lose 6 pounds a month.... Hey, 38 pounds is almost 10%
of my current weight.

Don't pin your hopes on a specific number, that way lies disappointment.
Watch the overall trend and don't obsess over your scale weight. I only
weigh myself every few months and trust in my old belt (now with LOTS of
holes in it) to let me know how I'm doing.

I've read that guys are supposed to be able to lose faster than the gals,
but I found that after the first few weeks I settled into losing an
average of about 2-3 pounds a month. A few months of stalling out here
and there but otherwise pretty steady.

I'm figuring another year and half to make it to my goal weight since I'll
probably be slowing down even more but that's a happy prospect as far as
I'm concerned. Heck, it took me 35 years to get that fat, so what's a
measly 4-5 years to lose it?

My wife, who reached her goal weight on LC last year, has my wedding tux
all pressed and ready for me to try on when the time comes ;-)

Dan
325/215/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Two weeks......geez!

Curt

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Two weeks and you are giving yourself a day off every week eating cake and
such? To me, you need to work much harder than that. Eating that cake or
whatever will just make it harder for you and will make the journey much
longer.

LC can be fun. Just get back to it and think much longer term. Two
week...geez. You are 350 lbs, two weeks means nothing!

Curt

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I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and the
initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were too
small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a scale...but I

have

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since ordered a digital one.

My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1

day

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a

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week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream

frosting...which

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made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Jeri said:

Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb

food

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for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but

steer

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away from food as reward.

Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special occasions

I

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will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both if

I've

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been especially awesome.

A bad idea...

Why?

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In article <[email hidden]>, JC Der Koenig

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high

carb

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food

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>> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate

but

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steer

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>> away from food as reward.
>>
>
> Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special

occasions

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I

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> will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both if

I've

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> been especially awesome.
>

A bad idea...

Why?

Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.

I eat shrimp sometimes as a reward. It's not about the emotional drama,
it's about the financial drama. Well, I guess the financial drama causes
some emotional drama.

On the subject of food as treats, I found it helpful to redefine "treats."
Before I went low-carb, a treat had sugar in it. When I quit eating sugar, I
filled my refrigerator with sugar-free treats (and by sugar-free, I don't mean
sweetened with artificial sweeteners). Someone mentioned shrimp, which is a
treat for me, too. I love smoked salmon, so I had as much of that as I wanted.
I bought some cheeses from a gourmet store. I bought some imported
prosciutto. That kind of thing.

It was transitional, although it was in keeping with the WOE I chose. (I am
doing mostly South Beach, with a bit of Atkins.) And it's something to
consider.

Eventually, I discovered a new definition of treat: being able to walk without
my thighs brushing together. Ultimately, treats should have nothing to do with
food. But I do think the realities of changing to a new WOE dictate that some
people go through a transition of sorts.

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

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Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb food
for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but steer
away from food as reward.

Jeri,
I agree with you 100%. I used food as a reward all the time, and
also as comfort. And that only made staying away from food more
difficult. If I was telling myself I can't have something, I'd start
to feel like I didn't deserve it, and then I'd feel upset, depressed,
etc.
Now I have a better reward - shopping. If I need to congratulate
myself, I will get a shirt or some makeup or something - same amount
I'd spend on a carby dinner goes for something that #1 - makes me feel
and look good, and #2 - will last longer than 30 minutes.

If I really crave something sweet, I'll eat fruits or berries. But
not as a reward anymore.

Elana

Wow!!! that is Startling, Starling. It scares me a bit because I will do my
best, but I can't wait until the point where I just feel secure losing 6lb.
per week.
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I think I was believing that this one day was alright.

I want to lose weight because I am darned uncomfortable.

I have been keeping my carbs down to 54 per day....is this good?

Depends. Which plan are you on (Atkins, South Beach, SugarBusters,

etc.)?

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You

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have to have a PLAN, even if it's one of your own design. I only know

the

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I'm going to suggest that you try South Beach. Mainly because it is

working

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for me. I started out at 314 pounds On February 20th and am now at 260.
The weight continues to come off.

One of the reasons I'm suggesting South Beach for you is that it is easy

to

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do, if you buy the book. You don't count carbs, calories or anything

else.

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You eat from a list of foods. Phase I is low carb by anyone's standards.
Phase II includes things like the oatmeal and fruit you seem to need to

eat.

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You do Phase I for two weeks. Your only carbs are low GI veggies. If you
do it faithfully, the cravings will go away.

When you go to Phase II you add one grain and one fruit to what you have
been eating. You might get to add more grains and fruit, and you might

not.

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It depends on how things go for you. Fruit is one of my trigger foods, so

I

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need to be careful with them. Every once in a while I need to go get a
piece of cheese to shut the cravings down.

No matter what diet you finally decide to do, BUY THE BOOK. You aren't
doing yourself much good trying to pull a plan out of the air. Pick a

plan,

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buy the book, and follow what the book says. And you will succeed.

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I have decided to trash that so-called free day. Now, it is Shabbat....I am
not permitted to fast on that day. But I will be sensible because I do like
the raspberries.

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My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself 1

day a

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week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few bites of
potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream

frosting...which

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made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

Tips? Don't give yourself that one day.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/181/140
& hubby- 6' 310/198/180
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There is only One God. I don't make oaths to Him. I believe Him and I have
heard Him for years telling me no...I just tuned Him out...but I'm not going
to do that ever again.

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If you believe in oaths, you may want to consider making an oath to the
deity representing whatever religion you practice. You can do it for a

week

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right? Then when the week is up evaluate the situation and decide if it

is

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necessary for you to take another oath. You wouldn't want to be a liar to
your God would you?

Regards,
Gunn

"Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thank you Gunn

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"Mary Hogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I started LC at 350 lbs two weeks ago. I have been dedicated and

the

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> initial weight loss was wonderful. I could sit in chairs that were

too

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> small, and my clothes were bagging out. I didn't have a

scale...but

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I

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have
> since ordered a digital one.
>
> My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself

1

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day

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a
> week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a few

bites

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of

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> potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with buttercream
frosting...which
> made me almost instantly feel sluggish.
>
> Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

Every morning when you wake up and before you eat anything say a

little

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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prayer and this affirmation: "I will stay on plan". We have free

will

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and

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it is often difficult for some people to change, because a part of

them

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doesn't really want to. You have recognized that you are slipping,

which

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is

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something that took courage and brutal honesty. I see you sitting on

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fence with one foot on one side and your other foot on the other. You

are

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leaning towards the right side, but it may be necessary to start the
affirmation process. You are in control, not anything or anyone else.

Regards,
Gunn

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I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for too
long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further away, and
walking instead of using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and stop
frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop at all.

I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for a
week. I will increase it 2X next week.

It is difficult.
"Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Mary Hogan <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

My problem is that I feel myself creeping back. I was giving myself
1 day a week of freedom, but I limited it in some respect. I had a
few bites of potato and a large slice of chocolate cake with
buttercream frosting...which made me almost instantly feel sluggish.

Does anyone have any tips. I'm 52.

One day off a week might work if on that day you were doing strenuous
exercise. And I do mean strenuous not just a couple walks around the

block.

Quoted message said:

All day bike ride, backpacking in the mountains, building a cinderblock
wall, strenuous weight training, that kind of thing. Other than that all
you're doing is undoing what you've accomplished over the previous six

days.

Quoted message said:

Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb food
for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but

steer

Quoted message said:

away from food as reward.

Until you know what you're doing you need to follow a plan. Low carb isn't
just about losing weight. It's also about regulating your blood sugar and
improving your blood lipid numbers. In other words it's about getting
healthy, not just getting thin.
--
Jeri
"Take what you need and leave the rest."
- old Usenet proverb

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In article said:

I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for too
long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further away, and
walking instead of using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and stop
frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop at all.

I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for a
week. I will increase it 2X next week.

It is difficult.

YAY!

You'll be amazed at the results that just a little exercise will get
for you.

My wife and I both dropped most of our weight by making the transition
from completely sedentary to 30-60 minutes of walking each day.

Strange as it may seem, ramping up from 30-60 minute walks to all-day
mountain climbs had almost no additional weight benefit, though we are
now obviously stronger and able to climb mountains. (:

Anyway, congratulations on taking the huge first step of going from
sedentary to moving. You'll find that it makes weight loss much
easier.

Cheers, Wolf.

--
Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
Hundred Peaks Section Webmaster http://angeles.sierraclub.org/hps/
P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 [email hidden]

Boy, I felt so much lighter today on my adventures at the GNC and the
Market.

I like this. I think I have finally find hope.

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In article said:

I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for

too

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long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further away,

and

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walking instead of using the electric chair. I do lean on my cart and

stop

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Quoted message said:

frequently so my goal is to stop less until I don't stop at all.

I also have been walking up and down the basement stairs once a day for

a

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week. I will increase it 2X next week.

It is difficult.

YAY!

You'll be amazed at the results that just a little exercise will get
for you.

My wife and I both dropped most of our weight by making the transition
from completely sedentary to 30-60 minutes of walking each day.

Strange as it may seem, ramping up from 30-60 minute walks to all-day
mountain climbs had almost no additional weight benefit, though we are
now obviously stronger and able to climb mountains. (:

Anyway, congratulations on taking the huge first step of going from
sedentary to moving. You'll find that it makes weight loss much
easier.

Cheers, Wolf.

--
Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L
Hundred Peaks Section Webmaster http://angeles.sierraclub.org/hps/
P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 [email hidden]

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Ignoramus14841 said:

In article <[email hidden]>, JC Der Koenig

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high carb

food

Quoted message said:

>> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate but

steer

Quoted message said:

>> away from food as reward.
>>
>
> Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special occasions

I

Quoted message said:

> will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both if

I've

Quoted message said:

> been especially awesome.
>

A bad idea...

Why?

Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.

i

Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money wise) every
once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I can't
have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more enjoyable.
I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have good
food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not of course
the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get involved too.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Dr. Brian Leverich said:

You'll be amazed at the results that just a little exercise will get
for you.

That's for sure. A few months ago, my sisters (both heavier than me
by percentage of weight, neither willing to LC yet) talked me into
running a 5K with them. One of them found a training schedule online
called "Couch Potato to 5K in 9 weeks." It started us out jogging 9
intervals of 60 seconds each, and we were huffing and puffing just to
finish those. It gradually increased the lengths of the runs, which
were three times per week.

Ten weeks later, we ran in the Hannibal Cannibal, a fairly difficult
5K according to the experienced runners there. (It includes a
1/5-mile, 45-degree hill.) We didn't put up impressive times, but we
all finished, which I never would have guessed we could do back when
we were struggling to jog a full minute at a time. I was amazed how
quickly we improved.

(By the way, none of us lost any weight from this drastic increase in
exercise. I had just started back on LC a couple weeks before this,
so I had just dropped about 10 pounds, mostly water. The exercise
made me hungrier, and hanging around with them brought me into contact
with too much carby food on those days, so I maintained. They
couldn't figure out why all the exercise wasn't burning off the
pounds. I explained why, but they aren't ready for LC yet, so they
continued to look for other reasons.)

I probably wouldn't recommend jogging right off the bat for most heavy
people who haven't exercised lately, because it is a pretty drastic
change and can be hard on the joints. Walking would probably be a
better way to start, maybe mixed with some simple exercises like
sit-ups, push-ups, and squats. Whatever you do, you'll probably be
surprised how quickly you feel the effects.

--
Aaron -- [email hidden] -- 285/225/200

"I want her to live; I want her to breathe; ...I want her to
aerobicize."

I eat kosher so I am limited...... But I still try variety.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus14841 said:

In article <[email hidden]>, JC Der

Koenig

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"Ignoramus14841" <[email hidden]> wrote in

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> In article

<[email hidden]>,

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Luna wrote:
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "Jeri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Get out of the mindset that you should reward yourself with high

carb

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Quoted message said:

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food
> >> for anything. Find a non food type reward if you want to celebrate

but

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steer
> >> away from food as reward.
> >>
> >
> > Oh, I dunno. I reward myself with food sometimes. On special

occasions

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I
> > will splurge on lobster tails or a good steak. Or sometimes both

if

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I've
> > been especially awesome.
> >
>
> A bad idea...
>

Why?

Attaches too much emotional drama to foods.

i

Not really. How much is too much? It's fun to splurge (money wise) every
once in a while. The fact that lobster tails are so delish and I can't
have them just whenever I want because of budget makes them more

enjoyable.

Quoted message said:

I don't see anything wrong with enjoying food, being happy to have good
food, and including food as part of a celebration. Now, it's not of

course

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the _only_ way I celebrate, I do let my other 4 senses get involved too.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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Mary Hogan said:

I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for
too long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further
away, and walking instead of using the electric chair.

It can be hard to get going, but it is a big boost. I'm not exercising as
much as I should, but am doing a brisk 15-20 minute walk 4-5 times a week,
and hope to increase it as I feel better and more weight drops.
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Debbie

I would probably be at the level of a brisk 2 minute walk at this stage.
I'm going to try to follow your lead Debbie....you seem to be like me
but....ahead.... I like your 38 lbs.... I like your honesty.

I feel so much better...this is actually the first day of my third week, and
though I did blow it unknowingly, I feel younger....

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Mary Hogan said:

I'm starting slowly on the exercise because I have been sedentary for
too long. I'm going to a big superstore every day, parking further
away, and walking instead of using the electric chair.

It can be hard to get going, but it is a big boost. I'm not exercising as
much as I should, but am doing a brisk 15-20 minute walk 4-5 times a week,
and hope to increase it as I feel better and more weight drops.
--
Debbie

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