What happened to BentRiderOnline?

[Edward Dolan]

"John Rooker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> >
> > Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is using
> > Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on IE. I
would
> > be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about IE. It
seems
> > fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web
sites.
> > What am I missing?

> For me, it's cross platform uniformity. I run a couple Win2000 boxes
> and a Linux box and I like to use the same browser on each.
>

Good Grief! Who are these people who are running more than one operating
system? I am surprised you are not also running a Mac (Apple) OS as well,
although I guess you need a separate computer for that.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[John Rooker]

If I had my druthers, it would be Linux and nothing else, but we have to
have some Windows machines for my wife's job.

Edward Dolan wrote:


> Good Grief! Who are these people who are running more than one operating
> system? I am surprised you are not also running a Mac (Apple) OS as well,
> although I guess you need a separate computer for that.
>

 

[chrisbacon]

I tried uninstalling Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox, but IE (version 6.0.2800)
still doesn't work. At various times I saw all of the things that have
been reported. Upper frame blank, looking for that IP address (127.0.0.0
or whatever it is). Every other site is ok, so it must be some
combination of the BROL site and what I have on my system.

I just tried getting in using my laptop (Windows XP up to date, same
IE version) and get the same result in the lower left:

"Opening page http://www.bentrideronline.com/Vol5.4/cover.htm..."

Since I did never installed Mozilla or Firefox on the laptop, it
doesn't seem like they would be the source of the problem.

Ain't computers fun?

Chris



--

 

[Randy Rhine]

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> I've heard from a couple of people that they've been having problems
>>getting in. I'm not sure what the common denominator is. I'm using
>>Mozilla (on Linux), but I haven't updated it lately. I wonder if that's
>>a clue? If everyone who is having problems, did they recently make some
>>changes to their browser and/or computer in general?
>> I do think that 'waiting for 127.0.0.1 may be a smoking gun as well.
>>
>>John Rooker wrote:
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>I'm having the same problem. I use Mozilla as well. I did a bunch of
>>>updates on Mozilla apps, Thunderbird, Firefox and Moz 1.7 and then
>>>discovered the problem with BROL. I have another PC that I did not
>>>update and it's going fine. When I try to access BROL, it says "Waiting
>>>for 127.0.0.1 which is weird...that's Localhost..
>>>
>>>chrisbacon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for the replies, the problem is obviously on my end. I started
>>>>using Mozilla instead of MS Internet Explorer, but even MSIE just sits
>>>>there with the status Opening page
>>>>http://www.bentrideronline.com/Vol5.4/cover.htm
>>>>
>>>>I'll figure it out.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>
>
> Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is using
> Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on IE. I would
> be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about IE. It seems
> fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web sites.
> What am I missing?
>
I like the way Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox has a personal toolbar on top
for organizing bookmarks. I also like the tabbed-browsing feature. And I
like that most viruses are targetted towards IE so not using it (or
Outlook) makes me a little bit safer. And I think the file scheme that
Netscape uses is cleaner and more straight foward than IE, which makes
it easier to backup, and move to other computers. And I've been usng it
for years so...why switch. It used to be that with the prior version of
Netscape, every so often I would run across a web site that didn't work
and would have to bring up IE to see it. Haven't had that problem since
upgrading to Netscape 7 about 8 months ago.

rr

 

[MLB]

"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in newsJudnYrc_rKYKXDdRVn-
[email protected]:

>
> "MLB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> >
>> > "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> I've heard from a couple of people that they've been having
>> >> problems
>> >> getting in. I'm not sure what the common denominator is. I'm using
>> >> Mozilla (on Linux), but I haven't updated it lately. I wonder if
>> >> that's a clue? If everyone who is having problems, did they
recently
>> >> make some changes to their browser and/or computer in general?
>> >> I do think that 'waiting for 127.0.0.1 may be a smoking gun as
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> John Rooker wrote:
>> >> > Chris,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm having the same problem. I use Mozilla as well. I did a
bunch
>> >> > of updates on Mozilla apps, Thunderbird, Firefox and Moz 1.7 and
>> >> > then discovered the problem with BROL. I have another PC that I
>> >> > did not update and it's going fine. When I try to access BROL,
it
>> >> > says "Waiting for 127.0.0.1 which is weird...that's Localhost..
>> >> >
>> >> > chrisbacon wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thanks for the replies, the problem is obviously on my end. I
>> >> >> started using Mozilla instead of MS Internet Explorer, but even
>> >> >> MSIE just sits there with the status Opening page
>> >> >> http://www.bentrideronline.com/Vol5.4/cover.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll figure it out.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris
>> >
>> > Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is
using
>> > Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on
IE. I
>> > would be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about
>> > IE. It seems fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up
too
>> > many web sites. What am I missing?
>> >
>>
>> Guess you missed that nationwide call from computer experts that
"it's
>> time to switch" of IE due to the proliferation of more complex bugs
>> every month. The latest security problem is MAJOR and not to be
ignored.
>> You have been warned.
>
> Good Grief! I have got an anti-virus program (QuickHeal) which updates
> automatically every day, I have got ZoneAlarm (a firewall) and I have
got
> SpyBot for adware and spyware. I also download all the Microsoft
updates
> religiously. What else do I need? If IE is taken down, I suspect
Mozilla
> won't be far behind.
>

You haven't been reading!! The new worms and viruses are MUCH more
elaborate than the old types that attacked one known vulnerability. The
new ones are seeming to use multiple attacks on multiple openings. Much
harder to detect and treat. They are also more virulent and dangerous.
What you have for protection is what EVERYONE has. It's not enough. ANd
will be even less sufficient from here forward. There is a
HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE difference in the user base of IE to anything else.
Nothing else gets even 1% of the attention of the hackers, not to
mention MS ineptitude in fixing the PROBLEM as a whole instead of
sticking one finger in one hole each time. Ask someone that knows this
stuff (I don't) and they'll tell you that IE is
BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, as in unbelievably bad. As in, shouldn't
be on the market bad............. It has always been bad, but now it's
dangerously bad for you personal information!
The new programs allowed them to access bank records and other
institutional sources. They could gain access to your credit cards,
account numbers, etc WITHOUT YOU EVER USING THEM on the web. One also
that corrupted hard drives, making them unusable! Not a kill it and
you're ok thing anymore!
There is a VERY LARGE difference between today and a year ago when it
comes to internet problems. Keep IE and you'll find out. Eventually.

 

[Mike Moore]

Cletus Lee wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
>>Thanks for the replies, the problem is obviously on my end. I started using Mozilla instead of MS Internet Explorer, but even MSIE just sits there with the status
>>Opening page http://www.bentrideronline.com/Vol5.4/cover.htm
>>
>>I'll figure it out.
>>
>
> I don't think the problem is on your end. Last night I got two empty frames and the ubiquitous
> message "Waiting on 127.0.0.1" This was on Firefox and IE. Today at work All is dandy.
>
> BTW the link to the forums (on another server) http://p206.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline worked fine
> on every browser I tried. I think the problem is on the BROL host server. The reverence to the
> localhost (127.0.0.1) is suspicious.
>
Yes, the reference to 127.0.0.1 is suspicious. I had been experiencing
the same problems accessing BROL since installing Mozilla 1.7 last week.
I had been using 1.6 with no problems before. By using an older PC with
Windows 98, I was able to get to BROL. I then looked at the page source
for both the top and main frames. They include lines like:
<script language='javascript'
src='http://127.0.0.1:1026/js.cgi?pa&r=14272'></script>

If you turn off Javascript in Mozilla, BROL loads fine. It just doesn't
look as "pretty" as it used to.

You can turn off Javascript by going to
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Scripts & Plugins and unchecking the "Enable
JavaScript For: Navigator" checkbox.

 

[Larry Varney]

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> [...]
>
>> It's a fun ride - and I recommend the Tour of the Scioto River Valley
>>to everyone - it's not really that tough, just a few rollers along the
>>southern third. And the murals on the floodwalls in Portsmouth make it
>>all worthwhile.
>> But don't stop with just that article - read the rest of them. Maybe
>>I'll see you - and lots of other readers/posters on Bike Florida, GITAP,
>>TRIRI, the Florida Bicycle Safari, etc.!
>
>
> Varney is doing nothing but easy rides. He needs to go West and do some more
> difficult rides. I recommend BRAN (Nebraska) or CANDISC (North Dakota) and
> he would soon find out what he is made of.
>

I was just talking to someone who rode BRAN this year. She said the
almost incessant wind just about drove her crazy. And as for CANDISC, a
friend of mine rode that last year. He said it was fun, but not
particularly tough.
If you want something tough, try the century route of the Old
Kentucky Home Tour. It's just 2-day weekend ride, but the century on
Saturday has three of the toughest hills I've ever encountered, right at
the 92-mile mark. I'm serious when I say that you almost feel like the
front wheel is going to come off the ground!

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "Larry Varney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > [...]
> >
> >> It's a fun ride - and I recommend the Tour of the Scioto River Valley
> >>to everyone - it's not really that tough, just a few rollers along the
> >>southern third. And the murals on the floodwalls in Portsmouth make it
> >>all worthwhile.
> >> But don't stop with just that article - read the rest of them. Maybe
> >>I'll see you - and lots of other readers/posters on Bike Florida, GITAP,
> >>TRIRI, the Florida Bicycle Safari, etc.!
> >
> >
> > Varney is doing nothing but easy rides. He needs to go West and do some
more
> > difficult rides. I recommend BRAN (Nebraska) or CANDISC (North Dakota)
and
> > he would soon find out what he is made of.
> >
>
> I was just talking to someone who rode BRAN this year. She said the
> almost incessant wind just about drove her crazy. And as for CANDISC, a
> friend of mine rode that last year. He said it was fun, but not
> particularly tough.
> If you want something tough, try the century route of the Old
> Kentucky Home Tour. It's just 2-day weekend ride, but the century on
> Saturday has three of the toughest hills I've ever encountered, right at
> the 92-mile mark. I'm serious when I say that you almost feel like the
> front wheel is going to come off the ground!

Larry, I never do centuries. I hate them with a passion! The main Wisconsin
ride which I have often done (GRABAAWR) averages about 70 miles per day.
That is more than enough. However, I do note that many Eastern rides will
average far less than that. I heartily approve of such rides as just piling
up miles is brainless and counter productive to enjoyment. When I am doing
a week long group tour I like to have a bit of time to myself and not have
to spend all day just pedaling. The GOBA (Ohio) has got it right as far as
I am concerned. The Bike Florida has also got it right.

BRAN is a devil of a ride, CANDISC is not so bad, but the daily mileage can
be a bit much some years. The main problem with these rides as far as I am
concerned are the eternal winds which detract greatly from the enjoyment. I
much prefer Eastern rides because they are not so difficult and you are not
constantly battling the wind.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"MLB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in newsJudnYrc_rKYKXDdRVn-
> [email protected]:
[...]
> > Good Grief! I have got an anti-virus program (QuickHeal) which updates
> > automatically every day, I have got ZoneAlarm (a firewall) and I have
> got
> > SpyBot for adware and spyware. I also download all the Microsoft
> updates
> > religiously. What else do I need? If IE is taken down, I suspect
> Mozilla
> > won't be far behind.
> >
>
> You haven't been reading!! The new worms and viruses are MUCH more
> elaborate than the old types that attacked one known vulnerability. The
> new ones are seeming to use multiple attacks on multiple openings. Much
> harder to detect and treat. They are also more virulent and dangerous.
> What you have for protection is what EVERYONE has. It's not enough. ANd
> will be even less sufficient from here forward. There is a
> HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE difference in the user base of IE to anything else.
> Nothing else gets even 1% of the attention of the hackers, not to
> mention MS ineptitude in fixing the PROBLEM as a whole instead of
> sticking one finger in one hole each time. Ask someone that knows this
> stuff (I don't) and they'll tell you that IE is
> BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, as in unbelievably bad. As in, shouldn't
> be on the market bad............. It has always been bad, but now it's
> dangerously bad for you personal information!
> The new programs allowed them to access bank records and other
> institutional sources. They could gain access to your credit cards,
> account numbers, etc WITHOUT YOU EVER USING THEM on the web. One also
> that corrupted hard drives, making them unusable! Not a kill it and
> you're ok thing anymore!
> There is a VERY LARGE difference between today and a year ago when it
> comes to internet problems. Keep IE and you'll find out. Eventually.

MLB, you do not understand my psychology. First off, if my hard drive goes
and I lose all my music (over 40 GB worth) I will have to kill myself. There
is no other possible solution.

However, my back up plan is to say screw all this computer ****! The
Internet is nothing but chaos and if Microsoft can't get a handle on it,
then I sure as hell am not going to get a handle on it. I have lived 99% of
my life without computers and I can easily go back to living without a
computer. I will only take so much aggravation and then I will be gone. It
will be ... "got along before I met you, will get along without you now!"

But what are you recommending that I do to avoid all the problems that you
foresee for the immediate future?

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Randy Rhine" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> > Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is using
> > Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on IE. I
would
> > be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about IE. It
seems
> > fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web
sites.
> > What am I missing?
> >
> I like the way Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox has a personal toolbar on top
> for organizing bookmarks. I also like the tabbed-browsing feature. And I
> like that most viruses are targetted towards IE so not using it (or
> Outlook) makes me a little bit safer. And I think the file scheme that
> Netscape uses is cleaner and more straight foward than IE, which makes
> it easier to backup, and move to other computers. And I've been usng it
> for years so...why switch. It used to be that with the prior version of
> Netscape, every so often I would run across a web site that didn't work
> and would have to bring up IE to see it. Haven't had that problem since
> upgrading to Netscape 7 about 8 months ago.

Randy, I am only concerned about viruses taking down my computer. All the
bells and whistles that you may get with other browsers do not matter to me.
I have tried Netscape in the past and was not overly impressed. But I do
worry about viruses, worms, hackers, etc. I wonder if Firefox might not be
worth a try? I dread the thought of a new OS such as Linux.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Bob Stan]

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:

>Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is using
>Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on IE. I would
>be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about IE. It seems
>fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web sites.
>What am I missing?
>
You are missing the fact that there are other computer operating systems
besides Windows and Macintosh.

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Bob Stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> >Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world is using
> >Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that I don't get on IE. I
would
> >be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like about IE. It
seems
> >fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web sites.
> >What am I missing?
> >
> You are missing the fact that there are other computer operating systems
> besides Windows and Macintosh.

The only other one I am aware of is Linux. But is this not jumping from the
frying pan into the fire?

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Cletus Lee]

have the problem at home but not at work. I have accessed the site from Both windows browsers (IE
and Mozilla Firefox) and Mac Browsers (Safari, Firefox) On Wednesday, I could not get either frame
to load at home. On Thursday, everything worked at work but at home the top frame is still hanging.

The Message "waiting on 127.0.0.1" was suspicious. It refers to the 'LocalHost" but the local host
can be a local address for the client or the server.

Looking at the code for the top frame, I found this inclusion:


<script language='javascript' src='http://127.0.0.1:1026/js.cgi?pa&r=28703'></script>


I think this is the reason for this problem that occurs for some but not others. At home, I block
almost all but the well known ports to keep out hackers.

If you or your ISP are blocking port 1026, your page will not load

http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers


Cletus D. Lee
Bacchetta Giro
Lightning Voyager
http://www.clee.org
- Bellaire, TX USA -

 

[MLB]

> get along without you now!"
>
> But what are you recommending that I do to avoid all the problems that
> you foresee for the immediate future?
>

First off understand that it's not me warning you. I'm passing on what I'm
reading all over the web, and from mainstream computer magazines.These guys
get a ton of money from MS so I doubt they are going to pull the plug
early.
The recommendations are to go to Netscape or Mozilla immediately and see
what shakes out in the future. Nothing needs to stop, just need to use a
different program, which I might add, has a TINY learning curve. Firefox is
almost indentical to IE in function.
It's much smaller and supposedly a little faster as well. MS is the 8000lb
gorilla here, but they most certainly aren't the only game in town!
It's also open source code, which means programmers everywhere can improve
it or make fixes, unlike MS which is limited to their employees.

 

[wheel dr]

I'm using MSN Premium on Verizon DSL. It worked fine, now all of a sudden I
get the same blank page symptom that the original poster has. Every other
site works fine. I have reverted to IE and it is the same. It is fine with
my dial up from here at the shop. I have tried all the regular remedies to
no success????? Hope someone figures it out. I will play with it again
tonight.

Jude


Cletus Lee <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> > Thanks for the replies, the problem is obviously on my end. I started
using Mozilla instead of MS Internet Explorer, but even MSIE just sits there
with the status
> > Opening page http://www.bentrideronline.com/Vol5.4/cover.htm
> >
> > I'll figure it out.
> >
> I don't think the problem is on your end. Last night I got two empty
frames and the ubiquitous
> message "Waiting on 127.0.0.1" This was on Firefox and IE. Today at work
All is dandy.
>
> BTW the link to the forums (on another server)
http://p206.ezboard.com/bbentrideronline worked fine
> on every browser I tried. I think the problem is on the BROL host server.
The reverence to the
> localhost (127.0.0.1) is suspicious.
>
> --
>
> Cletus D. Lee
> Bacchetta Giro
> Lightning Voyager
> http://www.clee.org
> - Bellaire, TX USA -

 

[bil]

Hatred

Hatred in general is a vehement aversion entertained by one person for
another, or for something more or less identified with that other.
Theologians commonly mention two distinct species of this passion.

* One (odium abominationis, or loathing) is that in which the
intense dislike is concentrated primarily on the qualities or attributes
of a person, and only secondarily, and as it were derivatively, upon the
person himself.
* The second sort (odium inimicitiae, or hostility) aims directly
at the person, indulges a propensity to see what is evil and unlovable
in him, feels a fierce satisfaction at anything tending to his
discredit, and is keenly desirous that his lot may be an unmixedly hard
one, either in general or in this or that specified way.

Hmmmm, no.

I know m$ products are defective and I also
know how a good operating system with ancillary
applications performs.

Do you understand?

Edward Dolan wrote:
> More childish nonsense from this Bil character. I would guess that he is
> about 16 years old. He hates Microsoft and the same way I hate Muslims, only
> my hatred is rational and his is irrational.

 

[bil]

Sublime.

Doofus equivocates between an invalid argument with plausible premises
and a valid argument with question-begging premises:
> You nothing but a busy-body who has got to be active all the time or you
> would drive yourself even nuttier than you already are. Why don't you engage
> your mind and pursue something intellectual and thereby become intelligent
> and literate. The world is full of your types who mistake activity for
> progress. You strike me as being permanently retarded at about the age of
> 16. How must it be to feel yourself a child all of your life I wonder?

 

[Edward Dolan]

"bil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:q_3Jc.468$Oi5.21@okepread07...

> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > More childish nonsense from this Bil character. I would guess that he is
> > about 16 years old. He hates Microsoft and the same way I hate Muslims,
only
> > my hatred is rational and his is irrational.

> Hatred
>
> Hatred in general is a vehement aversion entertained by one person for
> another, or for something more or less identified with that other.
> Theologians commonly mention two distinct species of this passion.
>
> * One (odium abominationis, or loathing) is that in which the
> intense dislike is concentrated primarily on the qualities or attributes
> of a person, and only secondarily, and as it were derivatively, upon the
> person himself.
> * The second sort (odium inimicitiae, or hostility) aims directly
> at the person, indulges a propensity to see what is evil and unlovable
> in him, feels a fierce satisfaction at anything tending to his
> discredit, and is keenly desirous that his lot may be an unmixedly hard
> one, either in general or in this or that specified way.
>
> Hmmmm, no.

Hmmmm, yes. So why don't you read what you have written above a couple of
times at least and then report back to us exactly what kind of hatred you
have for the Muslim terrorists, or is that too big a project for you? Or are
you one of these homegrown idiots (liberals) who hate Bush worse than you
hate Muslim terrorists like Michael Moore does (he is a big-fat-ugly
treasonous pig who has no brain).

> I know m$ products are defective and I also
> know how a good operating system with ancillary
> applications performs.
>
> Do you understand?

I understand there is no consensus on this at all. Let me know when there in
100% agreement on ANYTHING you say, at which point I will be flabbergasted!

Please note how I have posted correctly for you. Maybe when you get that
elementary thing right I will listen to some other things you have to say.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota



>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > More childish nonsense from this Bil character. I would guess that he is
> > about 16 years old. He hates Microsoft and the same way I hate Muslims,
only
> > my hatred is rational and his is irrational.
>

 

[Edward Dolan]

"bil" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:v94Jc.469$Oi5.355@okepread07...
> Sublime.
>
> Doofus equivocates between an invalid argument with plausible premises
> and a valid argument with question-begging premises:
> > You nothing but a busy-body who has got to be active all the time or you
> > would drive yourself even nuttier than you already are. Why don't you
engage
> > your mind and pursue something intellectual and thereby become
intelligent
> > and literate. The world is full of your types who mistake activity for
> > progress. You strike me as being permanently retarded at about the age
of
> > 16. How must it be to feel yourself a child all of your life I wonder?

I do not have to even put my brain into gear when I know that you think
Michael Moore (who is a big-fat-ugly-treasonous-brainless-pig) is the
personification of intelligence and rectitude You have no credibility with
me at all. But most importantly, you are a top poster and therefore you
define yourself as the idiot that you are. Well, Hells Bells! I agree with
you! You are an idiot! What more do you want from me?

Maybe if you would learn how to write (and read too) there would be no
question about premises.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Slugger]

>
> MLB, you do not understand my psychology. First off, if my hard drive goes
> and I lose all my music (over 40 GB worth) I will have to kill myself. There
> is no other possible solution.
>
> However, my back up plan is to say screw all this computer ****! The
> Internet is nothing but chaos and if Microsoft can't get a handle on it,
> then I sure as hell am not going to get a handle on it. I have lived 99% of
> my life without computers and I can easily go back to living without a
> computer. I will only take so much aggravation and then I will be gone. It
> will be ... "got along before I met you, will get along without you now!"
>
> But what are you recommending that I do to avoid all the problems that you
> foresee for the immediate future?

Ed if you value your life/music then you should back it the hell up.
I wouldn't trust anything of value to M$.
They stopped making IE a year ago and have not done any updates since.
However development has begun again and will be available in the next
SP for that stupid OS.
Get a real browser.
Slugger