today I...

Quoting Rod & Betty Jo:

Quoted message said:

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Now you're a victim of disabilities.

You've got this all worked out.

Good luck.

Not particularly.....as debates go she won that round

Please feel free to outline how she won other than on your say-so and
perception.

Be specific.

Quoted message said:

....That you had to revert to a personal attack

Where's the personal attack in this case? He agreed with what she said:

"I, and many others with food problems, drug problems, etc. have a
"coping with stress" disability."

I'm sure the fat acceptance people will come out of the woodwork to talk
things over with you.

In the meantime, try Google: it's your friend.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Gandalf Parker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:h2E8e.147$%L1.35
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

Quoted message said:

That's why you're still fat.

Exactly. Im sure that what you do fits your definition of supportive. Im
not bothered by my fat enough to need a "personal trainer" like you seem
to
volunteer to be. I was just curious about talking over some of the
benefits
of the diet.

Gandalf Parker

"I know I'm getting better" is a qualitative assessment, for the way that
you use it.

HTH

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Exactly. Right now mainly I know I'm getting better at it because I
exercise every day, which is one of my tools for dealing with stress in
a healthier way. I'm also confronting people who [censored] me off, politely
but firmly, instead of bottling it up inside and quietly resenting them.
I've tried meditation too, but so far haven't had much success with it.
Can't make the brain be quiet, you know? I've toyed with the idea of
anti-anxiety medication, but I'm kind of philosophically against
changing my personality with drugs.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

We'll see if you're getting better at it, if you ever get to a lower
weight
than the one at which you stalled. Quantitative assessments trump
qualitative assessments.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Understanding your point of view is a disability of mine, I will
> admit.

Let's see if I can put it another way that maybe you will understand.

Making excuses = "Life is stressful, stress makes me eat too much, I
can't control it, please feel sorry for me, please change society to
accommodate my fatness."

Not making excuses = "Life is stressful, when I am stressed I choose to
eat too much, with hard work I can change this behavior."

I am working hard at changing my behavior, changing how I choose to
react to stressful situations. It isn't as easy as I thought it would
be, it doesn't happen overnight, and I do falter. But slowly and
surely
I am getting better at it.

>
> Catering to your self-perceived "disabilities" is not productive, in
> my
> experience.

> --
> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
> MFW
>
>
> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Um, isn't everyone? We're all born with natural talents in some
> > areas,
> > and natural disabilities in others. Whining and complaining about
> > it
> > doesn't help, which you understand, but nor does ignoring it and
> > hoping
> > it goes away on its own, which you don't understand.
> >
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >> Now you're a victim of disabilities.
> >>
> >> You've got this all worked out.
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> hat. --
> >> MFW
> >>
> >>
> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >I believe that you would need special training to teach math to
> >> >kids
> >> > with certain types of learning disabilities. I, and many others
> >> > with
> >> > food problems, drug problems, etc. have a "coping with stress"
> >> > disability. Which is not to say I can't overcome it, just as
> >> > kids
> >> > with
> >> > learning disabilities like dyslexia can overcome it and learn
> >> > math
> >> > and
> >> > reading. But they can't overcome it by "butching up" or ignoring
> >> > the
> >> > dyslexia and pretending it isn't there.
> >> >
> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So you believe that since learning math was easy for me, I could
> >> >> never
> >> >> possibly tell anyone else how to do it. You assumptions are
> >> >> fallacious.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> MFW
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> > These are not excuses. These are reasons why losing weight is
> >> >> > difficult
> >> >> > for me in a different way than it was for you, reasons why
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > worked
> >> >> > to keep you psychologically in the right frame of mind may not
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > me. Everyone who is fat and loses weight has their own
> >> >> > thought
> >> >> > process
> >> >> > that gets them to the mental and emotional place where the
> >> >> > difficulty
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > losing weight is more attractive than the consequences of
> >> >> > being
> >> >> > fat.
> >> >> > If
> >> >> > you're not in that place, you won't stick with it. I'm
> >> >> > working
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > getting in that place, so it's not an excuse to do nothing.
> >> >> > It's
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > an extra step I have to go through that you didn't have to,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > since
> >> >> > you didn't, you can't tell me or anyone how to do it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Keep making excuses, that seems to be working for you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> >> MFW
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> > So I should lose weight without putting any thought into
> >> >> >> > it?
> >> >> >> > And
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > should take advice from you . . . um, why? Oh, because you
> >> >> >> > were
> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> > successful in losing the 5 or 10 vanity pounds you lost.
> >> >> >> > You
> >> >> >> > never
> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> > a large amount of weight to lose, so you have no idea what
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > takes.
> >> >> >> > Get yourself really fat, lose all your coping skills and
> >> >> >> > comfort
> >> >> >> > yourself only with food, develop an anxiety disorder, and
> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> > lose
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > weight, and then maybe you'll be qualified to advise me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Maybe you should hold off on thinking you know about the
> >> >> >> >> subject
> >> >> >> >> until
> >> >> >> >> you've had more success with it.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber
> >> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> >> >> MFW
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]..
> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> They may be losing weight today, but will they be still
> >> >> >> >> >> losing
> >> >> >> >> >> tomorrow?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Maybe. Maybe if they're excited and happy about their
> >> >> >> >> > progress
> >> >> >> >> > thus
> >> >> >> >> > far, they'll keep pushing to the finish line. But you
> >> >> >> >> > think
> >> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> >> > shouldn't be excited and happy until they're already
> >> >> >> >> > done.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Are you?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Slowly losing what I regained. When I get back to 150,
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > I'll
> >> >> >> >> > officially be losing again.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm not even talking about what you said to me,
> >> >> >> >> >> > rather
> >> >> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> >> >> > you've
> >> >> >> >> >> > said
> >> >> >> >> >> > to others who _are_ losing weight. I know I haven't
> >> >> >> >> >> > succeeded,
> >> >> >> >> >> > though
> >> >> >> >> >> > the word "failed" has a finality to it that doesn't
> >> >> >> >> >> > seem
> >> >> >> >> >> > appropriate
> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> > a project that's still in progress.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You don't "respect" me because I've pointed out
> >> >> >> >> >> >> where
> >> >> >> >> >> >> you've
> >> >> >> >> >> >> failed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Instead
> >> >> >> >> >> >> of taking responsibility for your failure, you blame
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> messenger.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> P.S. This is what's wrong with the USA.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "None Given" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ink
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > weight_. It's like no matter how much
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > progress
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > make,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they'll
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > never
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > be worthy of respect in your opinion, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > needed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > lose
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in the first place. I've never once seen you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > congratulate
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > someone
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > reaching goal, encourage someone who's doing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > well.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > treat
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yourself that harshly? If you do an extra set
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > routine,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there something I missed? Why would anyone
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> care
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JC's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> respect,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obvious he has earned none.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I used to respect him. He used to be really good
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > pointing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > out
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > when
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people were making excuses and doing it all wrong.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Now
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > he
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attacks
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > insults even the people who are following low-carb
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > letter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > successfully losing weight. If he's going to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attack
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > who
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are doing it right, then no, I don't respect him
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > anymore.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > His
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > comments
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are useless.

Quoted message said:

I believe that you would need special training to teach math to kids
with certain types of learning disabilities. I, and many others with
food problems, drug problems, etc. have a "coping with stress"
disability. Which is not to say I can't overcome it, just as kids with
learning disabilities like dyslexia can overcome it and learn math and
reading. But they can't overcome it by "butching up" or ignoring the
dyslexia and pretending it isn't there.

"Suze" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoting Rod & Betty Jo:
Not particularly.....as debates go she won that round

Please feel free to outline how she won other than on your say-so and
perception.

Be specific.

Well I'd think my say so and perception would be enough<G> but if you want
specifics... Luna said (if I may paraphrase) to acknowledge a situation
empowers one to overcome it and possibly provides the tools to do so....
where-as JC replied out of context that "Now you're a victim of
disabilities" she neither implied nor stated such a reality....definitly it
was not germane to the discusion....in fact her message was one of success
not excuse.......The reason I said she won was simply that she made a good
point and he failed to respond in kind and instead resorted to a petty
insult.....since I was enjoying the exchange I thought it reflected poorly
on his abilities to maintain such a dialog.

Quoted message said:

Where's the personal attack in this case? He agreed with what she said:

"I, and many others with food problems, drug problems, etc. have a
"coping with stress" disability."

She was using the concept to make a point and he chose to use it as a sword
against her...all the while ignoring the context and not making a counter
point....Rod

dialog follows
Luna
I believe that you would need special training to teach math to kids
with certain types of learning disabilities. I, and many others with
food problems, drug problems, etc. have a "coping with stress"
disability. Which is not to say I can't overcome it, just as kids with
learning disabilities like dyslexia can overcome it and learn math and
reading. But they can't overcome it by "butching up" or ignoring the
dyslexia and pretending it isn't there.

JC
Now you're a victim of disabilities.
You've got this all worked out.
Good luck.

Rod
Not particularly.....as debates go she won that round ....That you had to
revert to a personal attack instead of responding in context is your lack of
skill not hers.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:7XF8e.165$%L1.60
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure the fat acceptance people will come out of the woodwork to talk
things over with you.

In the meantime, try Google: it's your friend.

Fat-acceptance has its own newsgroup (and not an alt one at that).
And Im an expert googler. If I had wanted to read about it and accept it on
faith then I would have googled it. A newgroup is usually for a slightly
different purpose. But thats ok. I can see that you treat the phrase "want
to talk about" alittle differently than I do.

Gandalf Parker

Sometime it's difficult to be consistent. I'll try my best to be
consistent, but I'll also try not to kick myself when I fail but look
for ways to do better next round.

Many moons ago I did some small group teaching and for a semester I was
teaching same stuff 5 times a week. I have an inkling on how hard it is
to be consistent in teaching, it's way more difficult than being
consistent in dieting.

JC Der Koenig said:

I'm fairly consistent in my lesson preparation and delivery, to the extent
that I would say no lesson falls below an acceptable level. You should be
able to do the same thing within your diet.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"A_M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

X-No-Archive: yes

You know what Luna means. She's saying she and a whole bunch of us in
here aren't as good as you in "butching up", so let it slide. Some days
we do better, so days we do worse. Can you say that you've performed
equally well in every lesson you taught throughout the whole school
year?

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:40:17 GMT, Gandalf Parker wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

Quoted message said:

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:h2E8e.147$%L1.35
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

Quoted message said:

That's why you're still fat.

Exactly. Im sure that what you do fits your definition of supportive. Im
not bothered by my fat enough to need a "personal trainer" like you seem to
volunteer to be. I was just curious about talking over some of the benefits
of the diet.

Feel free to hang around and do so. You've apparently been around the
'Net long enough to know pretty quickly whom to ignore.

--
6/2/2003 181/170/here?

[censored] Yuknavech <I-give-up.@dontspamcom> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:40:17 GMT, Gandalf Parker wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

Quoted message said:

Exactly. Im sure that what you do fits your definition of supportive.
Im not bothered by my fat enough to need a "personal trainer" like you
seem to volunteer to be. I was just curious about talking over some of
the benefits of the diet.

Feel free to hang around and do so. You've apparently been around the
'Net long enough to know pretty quickly whom to ignore.

OMG you didnt go google "Gandalf Parker" did you? Both the web and news
versions come back with thousands and thousands. And we are all just lucky
that their database doesnt go back any farther.

Yeah I was internet when they were still trying to figure out what to call
it. But thanks for the comment. I think I may hang around abit longer.

Gandalf Parker
--
the Internet is a wonderful place to meet people and gain friends.
No fetish, fanaticism, or paranoia any longer need suffer alone.

Learn to snip.

Rich

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"I know I'm getting better" is a qualitative assessment, for the way that
you use it.

HTH

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Exactly. Right now mainly I know I'm getting better at it because I
exercise every day, which is one of my tools for dealing with stress in
a healthier way. I'm also confronting people who [censored] me off, politely
but firmly, instead of bottling it up inside and quietly resenting them.
I've tried meditation too, but so far haven't had much success with it.
Can't make the brain be quiet, you know? I've toyed with the idea of
anti-anxiety medication, but I'm kind of philosophically against
changing my personality with drugs.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

We'll see if you're getting better at it, if you ever get to a lower
weight
than the one at which you stalled. Quantitative assessments trump
qualitative assessments.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Understanding your point of view is a disability of mine, I will
>> admit.
>
> Let's see if I can put it another way that maybe you will understand.
>
> Making excuses = "Life is stressful, stress makes me eat too much, I
> can't control it, please feel sorry for me, please change society to
> accommodate my fatness."
>
> Not making excuses = "Life is stressful, when I am stressed I choose
> to
> eat too much, with hard work I can change this behavior."
>
> I am working hard at changing my behavior, changing how I choose to
> react to stressful situations. It isn't as easy as I thought it would
> be, it doesn't happen overnight, and I do falter. But slowly and
> surely
> I am getting better at it.
>
>>
>> Catering to your self-perceived "disabilities" is not productive, in
>> my
>> experience.
>
>> --
>> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
>> MFW
>>
>>
>> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> > Um, isn't everyone? We're all born with natural talents in some
>> > areas,
>> > and natural disabilities in others. Whining and complaining about
>> > it
>> > doesn't help, which you understand, but nor does ignoring it and
>> > hoping
>> > it goes away on its own, which you don't understand.
>> >
>> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Now you're a victim of disabilities.
>> >>
>> >> You've got this all worked out.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
>> >> at. --
>> >> MFW
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >I believe that you would need special training to teach math to
>> >> >kids
>> >> > with certain types of learning disabilities. I, and many others
>> >> > with
>> >> > food problems, drug problems, etc. have a "coping with stress"
>> >> > disability. Which is not to say I can't overcome it, just as
>> >> > kids
>> >> > with
>> >> > learning disabilities like dyslexia can overcome it and learn
>> >> > math
>> >> > and
>> >> > reading. But they can't overcome it by "butching up" or
>> >> > ignoring
>> >> > the
>> >> > dyslexia and pretending it isn't there.
>> >> >
>> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> So you believe that since learning math was easy for me, I
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> never
>> >> >> possibly tell anyone else how to do it. You assumptions are
>> >> >> fallacious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
>> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> MFW
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> > These are not excuses. These are reasons why losing weight
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > difficult
>> >> >> > for me in a different way than it was for you, reasons why
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > worked
>> >> >> > to keep you psychologically in the right frame of mind may
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > work
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > me. Everyone who is fat and loses weight has their own
>> >> >> > thought
>> >> >> > process
>> >> >> > that gets them to the mental and emotional place where the
>> >> >> > difficulty
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > losing weight is more attractive than the consequences of
>> >> >> > being
>> >> >> > fat.
>> >> >> > If
>> >> >> > you're not in that place, you won't stick with it. I'm
>> >> >> > working
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > getting in that place, so it's not an excuse to do nothing.
>> >> >> > It's
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > an extra step I have to go through that you didn't have to,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > since
>> >> >> > you didn't, you can't tell me or anyone how to do it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Keep making excuses, that seems to be working for you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
>> >> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> >> MFW
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> >> > So I should lose weight without putting any thought into
>> >> >> >> > it?
>> >> >> >> > And
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > should take advice from you . . . um, why? Oh, because
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > were
>> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> > successful in losing the 5 or 10 vanity pounds you lost.
>> >> >> >> > You
>> >> >> >> > never
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > a large amount of weight to lose, so you have no idea what
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > takes.
>> >> >> >> > Get yourself really fat, lose all your coping skills and
>> >> >> >> > comfort
>> >> >> >> > yourself only with food, develop an anxiety disorder, and
>> >> >> >> > then
>> >> >> >> > lose
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > weight, and then maybe you'll be qualified to advise me.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Maybe you should hold off on thinking you know about the
>> >> >> >> >> subject
>> >> >> >> >> until
>> >> >> >> >> you've had more success with it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber
>> >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> >> >> MFW
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]..
>> >> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> They may be losing weight today, but will they be
>> >> >> >> >> >> still
>> >> >> >> >> >> losing
>> >> >> >> >> >> tomorrow?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Maybe. Maybe if they're excited and happy about their
>> >> >> >> >> > progress
>> >> >> >> >> > thus
>> >> >> >> >> > far, they'll keep pushing to the finish line. But you
>> >> >> >> >> > think
>> >> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> >> > shouldn't be excited and happy until they're already
>> >> >> >> >> > done.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Are you?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Slowly losing what I regained. When I get back to 150,
>> >> >> >> >> > then
>> >> >> >> >> > I'll
>> >> >> >> >> > officially be losing again.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
>> >> >> >> >> >> t..
>> >> >> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm not even talking about what you said to me,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > rather
>> >> >> >> >> >> > what
>> >> >> >> >> >> > you've
>> >> >> >> >> >> > said
>> >> >> >> >> >> > to others who _are_ losing weight. I know I haven't
>> >> >> >> >> >> > succeeded,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > though
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the word "failed" has a finality to it that doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> >> > seem
>> >> >> >> >> >> > appropriate
>> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> > a project that's still in progress.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You don't "respect" me because I've pointed out
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> where
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> you've
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Instead
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of taking responsibility for your failure, you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> blame
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> messenger.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> P.S. This is what's wrong with the USA.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "None Given" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ink
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > weight_. It's like no matter how much
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > progress
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > make,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they'll
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > never
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > be worthy of respect in your opinion, because
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > needed
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > lose
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in the first place. I've never once seen you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > congratulate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > reaching goal, encourage someone who's doing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > well.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > treat
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yourself that harshly? If you do an extra set
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > routine,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there something I missed? Why would anyone
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> care
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JC's
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> respect,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obvious he has earned none.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I used to respect him. He used to be really good
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > pointing
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > out
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people were making excuses and doing it all
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrong.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Now
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > he
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attacks
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > insults even the people who are following
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > low-carb to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > letter
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > successfully losing weight. If he's going to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attack
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > even
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are doing it right, then no, I don't respect him
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > anymore.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > His
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > comments
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are useless.

Learn to suck.

Oops, looks like you already have.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:4%X8e.19343$H_5.2235@trnddc01...

Quoted message said:

Learn to snip.

Rich

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"I know I'm getting better" is a qualitative assessment, for the way that
you use it.

HTH

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Exactly. Right now mainly I know I'm getting better at it because I
exercise every day, which is one of my tools for dealing with stress in
a healthier way. I'm also confronting people who [censored] me off, politely
but firmly, instead of bottling it up inside and quietly resenting them.
I've tried meditation too, but so far haven't had much success with it.
Can't make the brain be quiet, you know? I've toyed with the idea of
anti-anxiety medication, but I'm kind of philosophically against
changing my personality with drugs.

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> We'll see if you're getting better at it, if you ever get to a lower
> weight
> than the one at which you stalled. Quantitative assessments trump
> qualitative assessments.
>
> --
> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
> MFW
>
>
> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >> Understanding your point of view is a disability of mine, I will
> >> admit.
> >
> > Let's see if I can put it another way that maybe you will understand.
> >
> > Making excuses = "Life is stressful, stress makes me eat too much, I
> > can't control it, please feel sorry for me, please change society to
> > accommodate my fatness."
> >
> > Not making excuses = "Life is stressful, when I am stressed I choose
> > to
> > eat too much, with hard work I can change this behavior."
> >
> > I am working hard at changing my behavior, changing how I choose to
> > react to stressful situations. It isn't as easy as I thought it
> > would
> > be, it doesn't happen overnight, and I do falter. But slowly and
> > surely
> > I am getting better at it.
> >
> >>
> >> Catering to your self-perceived "disabilities" is not productive, in
> >> my
> >> experience.
> >
> >> --
> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> hat. -- MFW
> >>
> >>
> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> > Um, isn't everyone? We're all born with natural talents in some
> >> > areas,
> >> > and natural disabilities in others. Whining and complaining about
> >> > it
> >> > doesn't help, which you understand, but nor does ignoring it and
> >> > hoping
> >> > it goes away on its own, which you don't understand.
> >> >
> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Now you're a victim of disabilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> You've got this all worked out.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> >> t. --
> >> >> MFW
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >I believe that you would need special training to teach math to
> >> >> >kids
> >> >> > with certain types of learning disabilities. I, and many
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > food problems, drug problems, etc. have a "coping with stress"
> >> >> > disability. Which is not to say I can't overcome it, just as
> >> >> > kids
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > learning disabilities like dyslexia can overcome it and learn
> >> >> > math
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > reading. But they can't overcome it by "butching up" or
> >> >> > ignoring
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > dyslexia and pretending it isn't there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> So you believe that since learning math was easy for me, I
> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> never
> >> >> >> possibly tell anyone else how to do it. You assumptions are
> >> >> >> fallacious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> >> MFW
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> > These are not excuses. These are reasons why losing weight
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > difficult
> >> >> >> > for me in a different way than it was for you, reasons why
> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> > worked
> >> >> >> > to keep you psychologically in the right frame of mind may
> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> > work
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > me. Everyone who is fat and loses weight has their own
> >> >> >> > thought
> >> >> >> > process
> >> >> >> > that gets them to the mental and emotional place where the
> >> >> >> > difficulty
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > losing weight is more attractive than the consequences of
> >> >> >> > being
> >> >> >> > fat.
> >> >> >> > If
> >> >> >> > you're not in that place, you won't stick with it. I'm
> >> >> >> > working
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > getting in that place, so it's not an excuse to do nothing.
> >> >> >> > It's
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > an extra step I have to go through that you didn't have to,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > since
> >> >> >> > you didn't, you can't tell me or anyone how to do it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Keep making excuses, that seems to be working for you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
> >> >> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> >> >> MFW
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> >> > So I should lose weight without putting any thought into
> >> >> >> >> > it?
> >> >> >> >> > And
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > should take advice from you . . . um, why? Oh, because
> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> > were
> >> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> >> > successful in losing the 5 or 10 vanity pounds you lost.
> >> >> >> >> > You
> >> >> >> >> > never
> >> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> >> > a large amount of weight to lose, so you have no idea
> >> >> >> >> > what it
> >> >> >> >> > takes.
> >> >> >> >> > Get yourself really fat, lose all your coping skills and
> >> >> >> >> > comfort
> >> >> >> >> > yourself only with food, develop an anxiety disorder, and
> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> > lose
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > weight, and then maybe you'll be qualified to advise me.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe you should hold off on thinking you know about the
> >> >> >> >> >> subject
> >> >> >> >> >> until
> >> >> >> >> >> you've had more success with it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber
> >> >> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >> >> >> hat. --
> >> >> >> >> >> MFW
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]..
> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> They may be losing weight today, but will they be
> >> >> >> >> >> >> still
> >> >> >> >> >> >> losing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> tomorrow?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Maybe. Maybe if they're excited and happy about their
> >> >> >> >> >> > progress
> >> >> >> >> >> > thus
> >> >> >> >> >> > far, they'll keep pushing to the finish line. But you
> >> >> >> >> >> > think
> >> >> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> >> >> > shouldn't be excited and happy until they're already
> >> >> >> >> >> > done.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you?
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Slowly losing what I regained. When I get back to
> >> >> >> >> >> > 150,
> >> >> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll
> >> >> >> >> >> > officially be losing again.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm not even talking about what you said to me,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > rather
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > you've
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > said
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to others who _are_ losing weight. I know I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > haven't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > succeeded,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > though
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the word "failed" has a finality to it that doesn't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > seem
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > appropriate
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > a project that's still in progress.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You don't "respect" me because I've pointed out
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> where
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you've
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> failed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Instead
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> of taking responsibility for your failure, you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> blame
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> messenger.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> P.S. This is what's wrong with the USA.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "None Given" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ink
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> t..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > weight_. It's like no matter how much
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > progress
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > make,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > they'll
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > never
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > be worthy of respect in your opinion, because
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > needed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > lose
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in the first place. I've never once seen you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > congratulate
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > someone
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > reaching goal, encourage someone who's doing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > well.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > treat
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yourself that harshly? If you do an extra
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > set in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > weight
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > routine,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there something I missed? Why would anyone
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> care
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JC's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> respect,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obvious he has earned none.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I used to respect him. He used to be really
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > good at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > pointing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > out
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > when
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people were making excuses and doing it all
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrong.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Now
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > he
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attacks
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > insults even the people who are following
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > low-carb to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > letter
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > successfully losing weight. If he's going to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > attack
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > people
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > who
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are doing it right, then no, I don't respect him
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > anymore.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > His
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > comments
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are useless.

Speaking of consistency, let's get this straight. In this thread you expect
me to go with what I "know what Luna means", yet in the other thread when I
ask you to do the same with palmer william, all of a sudden that doesn't
work any more. What's up with that?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"A_M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sometime it's difficult to be consistent. I'll try my best to be
consistent, but I'll also try not to kick myself when I fail but look
for ways to do better next round.

Many moons ago I did some small group teaching and for a semester I was
teaching same stuff 5 times a week. I have an inkling on how hard it is
to be consistent in teaching, it's way more difficult than being
consistent in dieting.

JC Der Koenig said:

I'm fairly consistent in my lesson preparation and delivery, to the
extent
that I would say no lesson falls below an acceptable level. You should
be
able to do the same thing within your diet.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"A_M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

X-No-Archive: yes

You know what Luna means. She's saying she and a whole bunch of us in
here aren't as good as you in "butching up", so let it slide. Some
days
we do better, so days we do worse. Can you say that you've performed
equally well in every lesson you taught throughout the whole school
year?

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:08:53 GMT, Gandalf Parker wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

Quoted message said:

[censored] Yuknavech <I-give-up.@dontspamcom> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:40:17 GMT, Gandalf Parker wrote in
alt.support.diet.low-carb:

Quoted message said:

Exactly. Im sure that what you do fits your definition of supportive.
Im not bothered by my fat enough to need a "personal trainer" like you
seem to volunteer to be. I was just curious about talking over some of
the benefits of the diet.

Feel free to hang around and do so. You've apparently been around the
'Net long enough to know pretty quickly whom to ignore.

OMG you didnt go google "Gandalf Parker" did you?

Didn't need to. Yesterday's posts were enough for "...you've apparently
been around..."

Quoted message said:

Both the web and news
versions come back with thousands and thousands. And we are all just lucky
that their database doesnt go back any farther.

Yeah I was internet when they were still trying to figure out what to call
it.

At BTL Whippany by any chance?

--
6/2/2003 181/171/here?

[censored] Yuknavech <I-give-up.@dontspamcom> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Gandalf Parker said:

Yeah I was internet when they were still trying to figure out what to
call it.

At BTL Whippany by any chance?

Nahhh I was on the military net then.

Gandalf Parker
-- Yes Im a Tauries/Aries cusp.
Two of the "horniest" signs in the zodiac (thats a pun)
Happy BD to me