The exercising more part is right on track. The eating less part is
where I keep failing. Last week I tried eating just one small meal a
day. That lasted until Friday. Some of the side effects bothered me
more than being fat does.
JC Der Koenig said:Try eating less and exercising more.
--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Nah. I've stalled on ~1500 calories a day. And you pulled that 5000
> calorie figure right out of your ass.
>
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Many people won't lose weight, other that a few initial pounds of
>> water,
>> if
>> they eat one meal per day of 5000 calories of meat and eggs.
>>
>> Is that why you've stalled?
>>
>> --
>> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>>
>>
>> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> > You're telling someone in induction that eating one meal a day of
>> > only
>> > meat and eggs won't help her lose weight. I'm saying it will. I'm
>> > right and you're wrong. You won't take responsibility for the fact
>> > that
>> > you're wrong.
>> >
>> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's quite telling that you can't see how taking responsibility is
>> >> related
>> >> to the topic at hand.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> > Are you kidding? First off, taking responsibility isn't even
>> >> > remotely
>> >> > related to the topic at hand. Secondly, I fervently believe in
>> >> > taking
>> >> > responsibility for one's own actions. There's no other way to
>> >> > live,
>> >> > imo. I also believe in some other things that you seem to be
>> >> > missing,
>> >> > like taking credit for one's own _good_ decisions, and accepting
>> >> > the
>> >> > things you can't change while working on the things you can.
>> >> > None
>> >> > of
>> >> > us
>> >> > here who are fat can change what we did in the past. The past is
>> >> > over
>> >> > and done with, but you still attempt to use it against people,
>> >> > people
>> >> > who _are_ taking responsibility and doing something about their
>> >> > weight.
>> >> > You're the first to jump on someone for being fat, even someone
>> >> > who
>> >> > is
>> >> > doing low-carb to the letter, and exercising, and actually
>> >> > _losing
>> >> > weight_. It's like no matter how much progress they make,
>> >> > they'll
>> >> > never
>> >> > be worthy of respect in your opinion, because they needed to lose
>> >> > weight
>> >> > in the first place. I've never once seen you congratulate
>> >> > someone
>> >> > for
>> >> > reaching goal, encourage someone who's doing well. Do you treat
>> >> > yourself that harshly? If you do an extra set in your weight
>> >> > routine,
>> >> > do you berate yourself because it wasn't two sets? If you eat
>> >> > nothing
>> >> > for a week, do you beat yourself up because it wasn't two weeks?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I know you don't believe that taking responsibilty for one's own
>> >> >> actions
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> a place in our society, but you should really try it. You might
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> reach
>> >> >> some of your goals some day.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't expect you to understand, so don't catch a headache
>> >> >> trying.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
>> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> MFW
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> > Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50
>> >> >> > pounds
>> >> >> > while
>> >> >> > eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
>> >> >> > Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the
>> >> >> > absence
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > carbs
>> >> >> > to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less,
>> >> >> > she
>> >> >> > IS
>> >> >> > exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be
>> >> >> > difficult
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that it
>> >> >> > wasn't
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house,
>> >> >> > because
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In article <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> That's why you've never been able to break through your
>> >> >> >> stall.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
>> >> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> >> MFW
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]..
>> >> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> > Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of
>> >> >> >> > low-carb.
>> >> >> >> > Sherry
>> >> >> >> > probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet,
>> >> >> >> > she's
>> >> >> >> > probably
>> >> >> >> > not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her
>> >> >> >> > carbs
>> >> >> >> > low.
>> >> >> >> > Plus,
>> >> >> >> > she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> > <[email hidden]>,
>> >> >> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber
>> >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> >> hat. --
>> >> >> >> >> MFW
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> >> >> > ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been
>> >> >> >> >> > able
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > walk
>> >> >> >> >> > for a
>> >> >> >> >> > long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter
>> >> >> >> >> > (13)
>> >> >> >> >> > went
>> >> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> >> > me,
>> >> >> >> >> > and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river,
>> >> >> >> >> > slightly
>> >> >> >> >> > rising
>> >> >> >> >> > and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > do
>> >> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> > every
>> >> >> >> >> > day
>> >> >> >> >> > and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > used
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > do
>> >> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> > friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a
>> >> >> >> >> > few
>> >> >> >> >> > years
>> >> >> >> >> > ago.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm
>> >> >> >> >> > afraid I
>> >> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> >> > wake
>> >> >> >> >> > up.
>> >> >> >> >> > Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂.
>> >> >> >> >> > Keeping
>> >> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> >> > carb
>> >> >> >> >> > count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most
>> >> >> >> >> > vegetables,
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > love
>> >> >> >> >> > meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables,
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > love
>> >> >> >> >> > salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is
>> >> >> >> >> > fitting
>> >> >> >> >> > me
>> >> >> >> >> > like
>> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> > glove.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the
>> >> >> >> >> > way
>> >> >> >> >> > around
>> >> >> >> >> > me.
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to
>> >> >> >> >> > hold
>> >> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> >> > breath.
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same
>> >> >> >> >> > arm -
>> >> >> >> >> > lol).
>> >> >> >> >> > All
>> >> >> >> >> > things
>> >> >> >> >> > that are new since I started LC eating.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm
>> >> >> >> >> > eating,
>> >> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> >> > may
>> >> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> >> > related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping
>> >> >> >> >> > like a
>> >> >> >> >> > rock.
>> >> >> >> >> > Sleep
>> >> >> >> >> > has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for
>> >> >> >> >> > years
>> >> >> >> >> > now,
>> >> >> >> >> > until
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night
>> >> >> >> >> > zips
>> >> >> >> >> > by
>> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > about 3
>> >> >> >> >> > minutes <G>.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday
>> >> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> >> > 14-day
>> >> >> >> >> > celebration with my husband. We're going to our
>> >> >> >> >> > favorite
>> >> >> >> >> > date
>> >> >> >> >> > place
>> >> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> >> > he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local
>> >> >> >> >> > casino.
>> >> >> >> >> > We
>> >> >> >> >> > go
>> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > rest
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot
>> >> >> >> >> > machines.
>> >> >> >> >> > Cheap
>> >> >> >> >> > date
>> >> >> >> >> > but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast
>> >> >> >> >> > steaks,
>> >> >> >> >> > bacon,
>> >> >> >> >> > poached
>> >> >> >> >> > eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables
>> >> >> >> >> > (that I
>> >> >> >> >> > recall)
>> >> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> >> > I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with
>> >> >> >> >> > french
>> >> >> >> >> > toast
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past -
>> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> >> > "old
>> >> >> >> >> > life".
>> >> >> >> >> > This will not only be a celebration but it will be a
>> >> >> >> >> > test
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> >> >> > determined to pass it 🙂.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Anyway...thanks for listening!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Sherry
>> >> >> >> >> > 360/?/195