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  1. ....walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk for a
    long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with me,
    and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly rising
    and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every day
    and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do with a
    friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.

    It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake up.
    Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I love
    meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like a
    glove.

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock. Sleep
    has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until the
    last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    minutes <G>.

    I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my 14-day
    celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place when
    he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for the
    MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap date
    but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon, poached
    eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast and
    corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old life".
    This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    determined to pass it 🙂.

    Anyway...thanks for listening!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  2. You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk for a
    long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with me,
    and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly rising
    and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every day
    and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do with
    a
    friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.

    It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake up.
    Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I love
    meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like a
    glove.

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All
    things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock. Sleep
    has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until the
    last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    minutes <G>.

    I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my 14-day
    celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place when
    he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for the
    MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap
    date
    but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon, poached
    eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast and
    corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old life".
    This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    determined to pass it 🙂.

    Anyway...thanks for listening!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  3. Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of low-carb. Sherry
    probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet, she's probably
    not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her carbs low. Plus,
    she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk for a
    long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with me,
    and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly rising
    and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every day
    and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do with
    a
    friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.

    It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake up.
    Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I love
    meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like a
    glove.

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All
    things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock. Sleep
    has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until the
    last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    minutes <G>.

    I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my 14-day
    celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place when
    he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for the
    MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap
    date
    but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon, poached
    eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast and
    corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old life".
    This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    determined to pass it 🙂.

    Anyway...thanks for listening!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  4. That's why you've never been able to break through your stall.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of low-carb. Sherry
    probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet, she's probably
    not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her carbs low. Plus,
    she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk
    for a
    long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with
    me,
    and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly
    rising
    and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every
    day
    and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do
    with
    a
    friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.

    It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake
    up.
    Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I
    love
    meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like
    a
    glove.

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me.
    I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath.
    I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All
    things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock.
    Sleep
    has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until
    the
    last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    minutes <G>.

    I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my
    14-day
    celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place
    when
    he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for
    the
    MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap
    date
    but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon,
    poached
    eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast
    and
    corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old
    life".
    This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    determined to pass it 🙂.

    Anyway...thanks for listening!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  5. eggs would be better than the sausages and bacons. sausages - you don't
    really know what is in it, could be a lot of rusk. bacons - nitrate and
    loads of salt. therefore - have more eggs.

    sherry said:


    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk for a
    long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with me,
    and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly rising
    and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every day
    and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do with a
    friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.

    It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake up.
    Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I love
    meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like a
    glove.

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock. Sleep
    has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until the
    last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    minutes <G>.

    I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my 14-day
    celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place when
    he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for the
    MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap date
    but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon, poached
    eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast and
    corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old life".
    This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    determined to pass it 🙂.

    Anyway...thanks for listening!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  6. Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50 pounds while
    eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
    Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it was in
    the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the absence of carbs
    to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less, she IS
    exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your problem is that
    it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be difficult or
    she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that it wasn't a
    good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house, because you
    think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    That's why you've never been able to break through your stall.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of low-carb. Sherry
    probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet, she's probably
    not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her carbs low. Plus,
    she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk
    > for a
    > long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with
    > me,
    > and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly
    > rising
    > and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it every
    > day
    > and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do
    > with
    > a
    > friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years ago.
    >
    > It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will wake
    > up.
    > Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my carb
    > count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I
    > love
    > meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    > salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me like
    > a
    > glove.
    >
    > I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me.
    > I
    > can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath.
    > I
    > can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All
    > things
    > that are new since I started LC eating.
    >
    > Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may be
    > related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock.
    > Sleep
    > has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now, until
    > the
    > last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in about 3
    > minutes <G>.
    >
    > I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my
    > 14-day
    > celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place
    > when
    > he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go for
    > the
    > MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of the
    > day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines. Cheap
    > date
    > but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon,
    > poached
    > eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall) but
    > I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french toast
    > and
    > corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old
    > life".
    > This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    > determined to pass it 🙂.
    >
    > Anyway...thanks for listening!
    >
    > Sherry
    > 360/?/195

  7. sherry,
    i can feel your joy.............keep up the great new way of life!

    rosie

    --

    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to
    walk for a
    : long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went
    with me,
    : and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly
    rising
    : and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it
    every day
    : and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to
    do with a
    : friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years
    ago.
    :
    : It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will
    wake up.
    : Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my
    carb
    : count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables,
    I love
    : meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    : salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me
    like a
    : glove.
    :
    : I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around
    me. I
    : can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my
    breath. I
    : can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol).
    All things
    : that are new since I started LC eating.
    :
    : Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or
    may be
    : related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock.
    Sleep
    : has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now,
    until the
    : last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in
    about 3
    : minutes <G>.
    :
    : I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my
    14-day
    : celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date
    place when
    : he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go
    for the
    : MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest
    of the
    : day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines.
    Cheap date
    : but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon,
    poached
    : eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I
    recall) but
    : I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french
    toast and
    : corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my
    "old life".
    : This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    : determined to pass it 🙂.
    :
    : Anyway...thanks for listening!
    :
    : Sherry
    : 360/?/195

  8. A_M <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    eggs would be better than the sausages and bacons. sausages - you
    don't really know what is in it, could be a lot of rusk. bacons -
    nitrate and loads of salt. therefore - have more eggs.

    You are correct about the sodium, and having been on a no-added-salt diet
    for the last 7 years I really can't tolerate much of it as I've lost the
    taste for it. But I do have a piece now and again. Sausage - don't like
    it much. But their steaks...grilled with lines on 'em...boy howdy, I'm
    ready! 🙂

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  9. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50 pounds
    while eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
    Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it was in
    the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the absence of
    carbs to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less, she
    IS exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your problem is
    that it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be
    difficult or she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that
    it wasn't a good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house,
    because you think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.

    Your assumptions are right on the money, Luna 🙂. I do eat less, because I
    don't get as hungry, and I don't get "gotta eat some
    chips/chocolate/bread/cookies NOW!" cravings either - haven't yet (today is
    day 13) anyway. I can still have the portions I'm used to but of different
    foods, I only eat 2 meals/day (up from one previously plus lots of
    munching) and no munching because no between-meal hunger. Other eating
    styles were difficult (low fat, counting calories, etc.) and I'm beginning
    to think that was because I was still eating the appetite triggers that
    carbs seem to be for me; now the triggers aren't there, is my guess, so
    I'm finding this much easier - and MUCH more effective - than the others.

    Thanks for your input, it's appreciated 🙂.

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  10. sherry said:


    A_M <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    eggs would be better than the sausages and bacons. sausages - you
    don't really know what is in it, could be a lot of rusk. bacons -
    nitrate and loads of salt. therefore - have more eggs.

    You are correct about the sodium, and having been on a no-added-salt diet
    for the last 7 years I really can't tolerate much of it as I've lost the
    taste for it. But I do have a piece now and again. Sausage - don't like
    it much. But their steaks...grilled with lines on 'em...boy howdy, I'm
    ready! 🙂

    Sherry
    360/?/195

    wow you get steaks for breakfast???? fab! hope you enjoy it.

  11. A_M <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    wow you get steaks for breakfast???? fab! hope you enjoy it.


    Yup, on the rare occasions we go there...steak'n'eggs. Thank you! 🙂

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    sherry said:

    Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50 pounds
    while eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
    Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it was in
    the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the absence of
    carbs to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less, she
    IS exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your problem is
    that it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be
    difficult or she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that
    it wasn't a good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house,
    because you think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.

    Your assumptions are right on the money, Luna 🙂. I do eat less, because I
    don't get as hungry, and I don't get "gotta eat some
    chips/chocolate/bread/cookies NOW!" cravings either - haven't yet (today is
    day 13) anyway. I can still have the portions I'm used to but of different
    foods, I only eat 2 meals/day (up from one previously plus lots of
    munching) and no munching because no between-meal hunger. Other eating
    styles were difficult (low fat, counting calories, etc.) and I'm beginning
    to think that was because I was still eating the appetite triggers that
    carbs seem to be for me; now the triggers aren't there, is my guess, so
    I'm finding this much easier - and MUCH more effective - than the others.

    Thanks for your input, it's appreciated 🙂.

    Sherry
    360/?/195

    The natural appetite reduction with low-carb is one of the main reasons
    it works. Maybe the only reason. For most people though, it only gets
    you so far. When you have the last little bit to lose, and you're
    smaller and your body doesn't need as much food, you may find yourself
    having to limit intake more consciously. That's when I tripped up, when
    I was close to goal and having to eat less and less to make any
    progress. I still haven't figured that part out, how to make hunger
    endurable. I can tough it out for a week or so, then I inevitably
    collapse and start eating too much again.

  13. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The natural appetite reduction with low-carb is one of the main
    reasons it works. Maybe the only reason. For most people though, it
    only gets you so far. When you have the last little bit to lose, and
    you're smaller and your body doesn't need as much food, you may find
    yourself having to limit intake more consciously. That's when I
    tripped up, when I was close to goal and having to eat less and less
    to make any progress. I still haven't figured that part out, how to
    make hunger endurable. I can tough it out for a week or so, then I
    inevitably collapse and start eating too much again.


    Yes, I've read that as time goes on we have to adapt to slower loss. I've
    read that have limited portions, some have limited fats, some have
    increased exercise - but it always seems to involve further changes. I do
    hope that you figure it out, after coming such a long way 🙂.

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  14. "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>.

    You know, they say you should never criticize another man until you walk a
    mile in his shoes. That way when you DO criticize him, you're a mile
    away.....and you have his shoes!
    --
    ClabberHead 5.0 (aka Iron Chef Atkins)
    248.5/193.0/185.0 Livin' La Vida Low-Carb since 5/1/03
    Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
    MSTie # 93058
    "Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
    are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

  15. "ClabberHead 5.0" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>.

    You know, they say you should never criticize another man until you
    walk a mile in his shoes. That way when you DO criticize him, you're
    a mile away.....and you have his shoes!

    LOLOLOL!!!!

    Sherry
    360/?/195

  16. I know you don't believe that taking responsibilty for one's own actions has
    a place in our society, but you should really try it. You might even reach
    some of your goals some day.

    I don't expect you to understand, so don't catch a headache trying.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50 pounds while
    eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
    Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it was in
    the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the absence of carbs
    to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less, she IS
    exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your problem is that
    it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be difficult or
    she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that it wasn't a
    good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house, because you
    think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    That's why you've never been able to break through your stall.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of low-carb. Sherry
    probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet, she's probably
    not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her carbs low.
    Plus,
    she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to walk
    > > for a
    > > long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went with
    > > me,
    > > and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly
    > > rising
    > > and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it
    > > every
    > > day
    > > and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to do
    > > with
    > > a
    > > friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years
    > > ago.
    > >
    > > It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will
    > > wake
    > > up.
    > > Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping my
    > > carb
    > > count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables, I
    > > love
    > > meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    > > salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting me
    > > like
    > > a
    > > glove.
    > >
    > > I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around
    > > me.
    > > I
    > > can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my
    > > breath.
    > > I
    > > can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All
    > > things
    > > that are new since I started LC eating.
    > >
    > > Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or may
    > > be
    > > related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock.
    > > Sleep
    > > has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now,
    > > until
    > > the
    > > last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in
    > > about 3
    > > minutes <G>.
    > >
    > > I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my
    > > 14-day
    > > celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date place
    > > when
    > > he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We go
    > > for
    > > the
    > > MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest of
    > > the
    > > day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines.
    > > Cheap
    > > date
    > > but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks, bacon,
    > > poached
    > > eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I recall)
    > > but
    > > I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french
    > > toast
    > > and
    > > corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my "old
    > > life".
    > > This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    > > determined to pass it 🙂.
    > >
    > > Anyway...thanks for listening!
    > >
    > > Sherry
    > > 360/?/195

  17. You sound like you're doing fantastic, sherry! Keep up the great work. And
    keep on keeping us updated. 🙂

    --
    Spring
    LC since 1/1/04
    260/197/170

    "Before" & "current" pics at link below:
    http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/my_photos

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Ain't it grand? I'm glad things are going so well for you, Sherry!

    --
    Saffire
    205/142/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around me. I
    can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my breath. I
    can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol). All things
    that are new since I started LC eating.

    Ain't it grand? I'm glad things are going so well for you, Sherry!

    --
    Saffire
    205/142/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  20. It's quite telling that you can't see how taking responsibility is related
    to the topic at hand.

    --
    You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Are you kidding? First off, taking responsibility isn't even remotely
    related to the topic at hand. Secondly, I fervently believe in taking
    responsibility for one's own actions. There's no other way to live,
    imo. I also believe in some other things that you seem to be missing,
    like taking credit for one's own _good_ decisions, and accepting the
    things you can't change while working on the things you can. None of us
    here who are fat can change what we did in the past. The past is over
    and done with, but you still attempt to use it against people, people
    who _are_ taking responsibility and doing something about their weight.
    You're the first to jump on someone for being fat, even someone who is
    doing low-carb to the letter, and exercising, and actually _losing
    weight_. It's like no matter how much progress they make, they'll never
    be worthy of respect in your opinion, because they needed to lose weight
    in the first place. I've never once seen you congratulate someone for
    reaching goal, encourage someone who's doing well. Do you treat
    yourself that harshly? If you do an extra set in your weight routine,
    do you berate yourself because it wasn't two sets? If you eat nothing
    for a week, do you beat yourself up because it wasn't two weeks?

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    I know you don't believe that taking responsibilty for one's own actions
    has
    a place in our society, but you should really try it. You might even
    reach
    some of your goals some day.

    I don't expect you to understand, so don't catch a headache trying.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes. Among other things. The point is, I lost the first 50 pounds while
    eating as much as I wanted, and sherry is still in that stage.
    Although, "as much as I wanted" was significantly less than it was in
    the high-carb days. I just wasn't hungry enough in the absence of
    carbs
    to eat enough to keep the weight on. Sherry IS eating less, she IS
    exercising more, and she IS losing weight. I think your problem is that
    it isn't difficult for her yet, and you think it should be difficult or
    she's doing it wrong. That's why you argued with me that it wasn't a
    good idea to get rid of the high-carb foods in the house, because you
    think weightloss should be as tortuously hard as possible.

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > That's why you've never been able to break through your stall.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > Eating less isn't as important in the early stages of low-carb.
    > > Sherry
    > > probably doesn't have to force herself to eat less yet, she's
    > > probably
    > > not hungry enough to eat too much if she's keeping her carbs low.
    > > Plus,
    > > she did say this was her one meal for the day anyway.
    > >
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> You don't need a buffet, you need to eat less.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
    > >> hat. --
    > >> MFW
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email hidden]...
    > >> > ...walked a mile. In my own shoes <G>. I haven't been able to
    > >> > walk
    > >> > for a
    > >> > long time, and I didn't even get winded. My daughter (13) went
    > >> > with
    > >> > me,
    > >> > and we each took one of our dogs. It was along a river, slightly
    > >> > rising
    > >> > and falling so it wasn't just flat and boring. We plan to do it
    > >> > every
    > >> > day
    > >> > and I hope to get back up to 4 miles/day, which is what I used to
    > >> > do
    > >> > with
    > >> > a
    > >> > friend before an accident/serious injury sidelined me a few years
    > >> > ago.
    > >> >
    > >> > It's day 12 and things are still going so well I'm afraid I will
    > >> > wake
    > >> > up.
    > >> > Well, I probably will, it just hasn't happened yet 🙂. Keeping
    > >> > my
    > >> > carb
    > >> > count at 20 hasn't been difficult because I love most vegetables,
    > >> > I
    > >> > love
    > >> > meats, I love being able to put butter on my vegetables, I love
    > >> > salads...well, you get the idea. This way of eating is fitting
    > >> > me
    > >> > like
    > >> > a
    > >> > glove.
    > >> >
    > >> > I'd mentioned that my husband can put his arms all the way around
    > >> > me.
    > >> > I
    > >> > can also bend down and tie my shoes without having to hold my
    > >> > breath.
    > >> > I
    > >> > can encircle my wrist with my hand (not on the same arm - lol).
    > >> > All
    > >> > things
    > >> > that are new since I started LC eating.
    > >> >
    > >> > Last thing I notice, and it may be related to how I'm eating, or
    > >> > may
    > >> > be
    > >> > related to my better frame of mind, but I'm sleeping like a rock.
    > >> > Sleep
    > >> > has been fitful with lots of tossing and turning for years now,
    > >> > until
    > >> > the
    > >> > last week or more. Now I sleep so soundly the night zips by in
    > >> > about 3
    > >> > minutes <G>.
    > >> >
    > >> > I am SO GLAD to finally have taken this step, Saturday will be my
    > >> > 14-day
    > >> > celebration with my husband. We're going to our favorite date
    > >> > place
    > >> > when
    > >> > he gets off work in the morning, our friendly local casino. We
    > >> > go
    > >> > for
    > >> > the
    > >> > MASSIVE breakfast buffet (and then we don't have to eat the rest
    > >> > of
    > >> > the
    > >> > day) and then we each play $20 in nickels in the slot machines.
    > >> > Cheap
    > >> > date
    > >> > but so much fun. The buffet has nice big breakfast steaks,
    > >> > bacon,
    > >> > poached
    > >> > eggs, all sorts of things I can eat. No vegetables (that I
    > >> > recall)
    > >> > but
    > >> > I'll fill up on those tomorrow. I always loaded up with french
    > >> > toast
    > >> > and
    > >> > corned beef hash and cheese blintzes (sp?) in the past - in my
    > >> > "old
    > >> > life".
    > >> > This will not only be a celebration but it will be a test and I'm
    > >> > determined to pass it 🙂.
    > >> >
    > >> > Anyway...thanks for listening!
    > >> >
    > >> > Sherry
    > >> > 360/?/195

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