"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
"Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Meg Worley said:
A pal and I were trying to remember and failing: Are there any TdF winners who were not that good as time-trialers? The history section of letour.com doesn't specify which stages were ITT, so I can't even figure it out on my own (although that sure beats getting work done this afternoon).
Any of you historians able to help us out here?
Gaul, Bahamontes
Gaul won the Tour of 1958. His performances in the TTs of that year: Circuit de Chateaulin (46) km: 1. Gaul 2. Anquetil 3. Planckaert 4. Brankart Mt Ventoux (22,5 km) 1. Gaul 2. Bahamontes 3. Dotto 4. Brankart Besançon-Dijon (74 km) 1. Gaul 2. Nencini 3. Adriaensens 4. Planckaert. Pretty good, IMO. In 1956 he also won the first TT. Bahamontes wasn't so bad either. He won TT climbs in 1959 (the year he won the Tour) and 1962, but in 1963 at 35 was still capable finishing third in a flat TT after great specialists as Anquetil and Bracke.
how about Jacky Durand getting himself the yello jersey by wining a TT...? Ok so many he didn't SUCK at TTs within France, but on the world level he was no TTist.