Re: This group is full of morons



On Mar 11, 1:47 pm, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:

> I will answer that. One form of bullying is taking
> advantage of good will. Nobody here is bullied.



Yeah, it's not as if rbr is anything like the undemocratic Democrat
party caucasses. Or under the "gay-liberal/liberal-gay" lingo
paradigm: undemocratic Democrat party ****-asses.
 
Paul G. wrote:

>
> I must say, I expected better in a bike racing newsgroup- better
> reading comprehension skills, a better grasp of physics, and the
> ability to discern the relevant from the trivial. More Jobst Brandt,
> less Joe Sixpack. Excuse me, make that "Joe LIVEDRUNK".


We've really let ourselves go since Heather and Pedalchick stopped posting.
There's nobody left to impress, and peopal have gottun lazy. You can tel
becauspeopul dont evun pruif chek stuff nemore. Most of us don't even
bothur to scuk in his gutt while typin. But back in the day when the good
people were still posting, guys with chest hair and leg muscle, who rode
2000 miles by this time in the year after losing all their toes the
previous season to frostbite because they live in Edmonton, who knew
something about bicycle racing, including countersteering and velodromes
and gearing and sewups, who didn't go in for gay/retarded nut-sack shaving,
who understood the difference between a NASCAR driver and a bidet, and
didn't take or give **** except when they did (and even then it was funnier
than now), then the group would have showed you something. Goddamn I miss
those days. I blame Lance Armstrong, or maybe pedalchick and Heather,
since you really can't go wrong blaming a woman for your own personal
failures.

--
Bill Asher
 
On Mar 13, 8:35 am, SLAVE of THE STATE <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 6:05 pm, "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I must say, I expected better in a bike racing newsgroup- better
> > reading comprehension skills, a better grasp of physics, and the
> > ability to discern the relevant from the trivial.

>
> What planet have you been living on?
>
> Starbucks. 8AM. Purple. Be there.


Hey, I waited there for hours last time, and the only person I saw in
purple was an old lady. 'Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool
me -- you can't get fooled again'
-Paul
 
On Mar 13, 12:14 am, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > I must say, I expected better in a bike racing newsgroup- better reading
> > comprehension skills, a better grasp of physics

>
> Just wait until Magilla and Schwartz start debating cornering speed on a
> velodrome.


Hmmmnnn... I wouldn't think there would be much to say about that. The
interesting action is at low speed on that steep banking. A few drops
of sweat can really reduce the coefficient of friction...
-Paul
 
On Mar 13, 9:47 am, William Asher <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
>
> > I must say, I expected better in a bike racing newsgroup- better
> > reading comprehension skills, a better grasp of physics, and the
> > ability to discern the relevant from the trivial. More Jobst Brandt,
> > less Joe Sixpack. Excuse me, make that "Joe LIVEDRUNK".

>
> We've really let ourselves go since Heather and Pedalchick stopped posting.
> There's nobody left to impress, and peopal have gottun lazy. You can tel
> becauspeopul dont evun pruif chek stuff nemore. Most of us don't even
> bothur to scuk in his gutt while typin. But back in the day when the good
> people were still posting, guys with chest hair and leg muscle, who rode
> 2000 miles by this time in the year after losing all their toes the
> previous season to frostbite because they live in Edmonton, who knew
> something about bicycle racing, including countersteering and velodromes
> and gearing and sewups, who didn't go in for gay/retarded nut-sack shaving,
> who understood the difference between a NASCAR driver and a bidet, and
> didn't take or give **** except when they did (and even then it was funnier
> than now), then the group would have showed you something. Goddamn I miss
> those days. I blame Lance Armstrong, or maybe pedalchick and Heather,
> since you really can't go wrong blaming a woman for your own personal
> failures.
>
> --
> Bill Asher


Now there's some quality banter. Nut-sack shaving? You mean the
Tammy Thomas case? I thought she only grew a beard:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_8531075

-Paul
 
Paul G. wrote:

> Now there's some quality banter. Nut-sack shaving? You mean the
> Tammy Thomas case? I thought she only grew a beard:
> http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_8531075


No. I mean guys shaving their nut sack. If you have to ask, you don't
want to know, although someone is going to provide a google/news link
shortly. Don't say I didn't tell you you didn't want to know.

--
Bill Asher
 
Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Here's where we disagree. I believe that absurd behavior in many forms of
> public life has reached operatic proportions. What's Britney Spears up to
> lately, and why does anyone care? The sniping between the Clinton and
> Obama campaigns is full of calculated absurdity. People are getting PAID
> to think of this stuff and we choose our rulers based upon which of them
> produces absurdities the most effectively. In contrast, the UCI is minor.


Its all an existentialist plot. And since liberals may well be
existentialists, that implies its a liberal plot.
 
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> Starbucks. 8AM. Purple. Be there.


In Papai's day that would have been full '98 postal uniform on a blue
and white team Trek 5500 (perhaps JFT's still got the necessary
accessories somehere in a Manhattan attic).
 
Fred Fredburger wrote:
>
> Here's where we disagree. I believe that absurd behavior in many forms
> of public life has reached operatic proportions. What's Britney Spears
> up to lately, and why does anyone care? The sniping between the Clinton
> and Obama campaigns is full of calculated absurdity. People are getting
> PAID to think of this stuff and we choose our rulers based upon which of
> them produces absurdities the most effectively. In contrast, the UCI is
> minor.
>

Most absurd to me is that, of all the news that is worthy, the biggest
news lately instead is, "Governor has sex". Surely there are others who
should be impeached first, than some guy in a suit getting his pickle wet.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0312084kristen1.html
 
Kyle Legate wrote:
> Most absurd to me is that, of all the news that is worthy, the biggest
> news lately instead is, "Governor has sex". Surely there are others who
> should be impeached first, than some guy in a suit getting his pickle wet.
>
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0312084kristen1.html


Perhaps we should ask greg to pay this Kristin chick to perform the
Usenet equivalent of phone sex on rbr.
 
On Mar 13, 10:40 am, William Asher <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > Now there's some quality banter. Nut-sack shaving? You mean the
> > Tammy Thomas case? I thought she only grew a beard:
> >http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_8531075

>
> No. I mean guys shaving their nut sack. If you have to ask, you don't
> want to know, although someone is going to provide a google/news link
> shortly. Don't say I didn't tell you you didn't want to know.
>
> --
> Bill Asher


Oh- I thought maybe she used so many steroids that she grew a nut-sack
as well as a beard. Or at least the concept of a nut-sack shaving
female Olympic cyclist would be even funnier than a male nut-sack
shaver.
-Paul
 
On Mar 13, 10:54 am, "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 8:35 am, SLAVE of THE STATE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 12, 6:05 pm, "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > > I must say, I expected better in a bike racing newsgroup- better
> > > reading comprehension skills, a better grasp of physics, and the
> > > ability to discern the relevant from the trivial.

>
> > What planet have you been living on?

>
> > Starbucks. 8AM. Purple. Be there.

>
> Hey, I waited there for hours last time, and the only person I saw in
> purple was an old lady. 'Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool
> me -- you can't get fooled again'


Dumbass,

Read the subject header.
 
On Mar 13, 6:26 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <8632e48a-0a63-4ba4-935e-9ee5eb9e4...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>  SLAVE of THE STATE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/tinkywinky-purse-795157.gif

>
>    That's not a purse, it's a man-bag!


Robert Chung's linky2tinkywinky is the only reason I remember Ken's
signature "I am in purple." No tagging or Hollis stocking is
necessary. If I can't remember, then fallback on 'Don has the
internet memorized.'
 
In article <4ee21033-b832-45c3-ba92-b5f9466be40b@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 13, 12:25 am, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:


> > The comedy lies in your ability to continuously demonstrate your silliness
> > and raw ignorance. Claiming that others don't understand physics, yet can't
> > recognize that drivers in high speed crashes get beat up, roll cages and helmets
> > nothwithstanding.

>
> There's an old saying that applies here- "It's not the fall that kills
> you- it's the sudden stop." My father was a physics professor, he
> probably told me that one. So it's not how fast you are going when you
> crash, it's how suddenly your vital parts stop that determines the
> extent of your injuries. Usually your head and neck are the most
> vulnerable.


Why didn't you learn that from him, then? Yes, head and neck *are* most frequently
receivers of the most obvious damge, but often it involves other stuff, like
internals. Besides, it isn't just about death. You seem to be doing a grand job of
claiming that a driver in a high speed crash walks away without a scratch.

> So in the case of my friend who was fatally injured in a
> fairly low speed bike crash, she hit her head on the pavement while
> wearing one of those old "hairnet" helmets with the padded leather
> straps (this was circa 1975). The helmet didn't dissipate the kinetic
> energy of her head, so her skull and brain pulled a lot of g's when
> she hit. In contrast, most of the kinetic energy of Tony Stewart's
> crash was absorbed by his car, and therefore his injuries were minor.


Many assumptions in that last bit. As an example, in the mid to late '80s, a
series of seemingly minor crashes in a pavement modified series resulted in the
deaths of several drivers (including a nine time champion, Richie Evans). It was
finally determined that the cars were stiff enough to handle great but couldn't
dissipate the energy from a crash. Note that these cars are not traveling at the
speeds that NASCAR stock cars do, either. The point is injuries are not consistent in
crashes, as you may have discovered in the one that caused your friend's death.
Others might have walked away from that one (at least based on your in-group
descriptions).

> But seriously, you have an uncanny ability to look at a set of facts-
> Tony Stewart is in a spectacular crash at 150 mph and walks -er- limps
> away with a bruised foot- and immediately ask the crucial question-
> "How badly is his foot bruised?"


It's very simple - you heaped scorn on the guy for "only having a bruised foot"
when you have no idea the extent of the damage. Perhaps you wouldn't be so quick to
do that if you'd ever had a really serious impact and the bruising that comes with
it. It seems to me that you really have a need to have your chosen sport be the
gnarliest, baddest, most dangerous one around - probably because that gives your wee
life meaning.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
In article <[email protected]>, Kyle Legate <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Fred Fredburger wrote:
> >
> > Here's where we disagree. I believe that absurd behavior in many forms
> > of public life has reached operatic proportions. What's Britney Spears
> > up to lately, and why does anyone care? The sniping between the Clinton
> > and Obama campaigns is full of calculated absurdity. People are getting
> > PAID to think of this stuff and we choose our rulers based upon which of
> > them produces absurdities the most effectively. In contrast, the UCI is
> > minor.
> >

> Most absurd to me is that, of all the news that is worthy, the biggest
> news lately instead is, "Governor has sex". Surely there are others who
> should be impeached first, than some guy in a suit getting his pickle wet.
>
> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0312084kristen1.html


I agree, but one problem is that Spitzer did spend a lot of years being the face
of righteous indignation over corporate scandals. He came across as a bit of an ultra
straight-and-narrow guy. So he's out, while Louisiana's David Vitter is still a
sitting Senator (and got a standing ovation when he returned to the Senate from the
GOP side - odd, considering how they responded to Clinton's marital problems).
Vitter, of course, had a long running affair with prostitutes exposed (and his thing
was apparently a diaper fetish) and had made a name for himself as a super morals
guy. He pushed abstinence-only sex ed and is rabidly anti gay marriage/union, arguing
it will "destroy traditional marriage." Apparently, going to hookers and dressing in
diapers doesn't mess with marriage... I don't care if Vitter's in or not - it's the
double standard that bugs me.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
In article
<rcousine-8BCCD2.21032212032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:

> For that matter, I think NASCAR has a similar problem: extremely long,
> largely indecisive races that essentially come down to which of the
> drivers in the front 10 manages to be the cleverest during the final lap.


I watched NASCAR races for many months not too long ago.
It was good enough, but they ruined it for me with the
yellow flags for hallucinations, and the Daytona gift
to Dale Earnhardt II the year after his dad died.
Too many decided outcomes.

--
Michael Press
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> <snipped a bunch of stuff that I agree with, including the comments of
> TdF mountain stages>
>
> > But I digress.
> >
> > I'm not really sure, Fred, what your statement all the way up there is
> > supposed to mean. I think you believe that I think the present state of
> > cycling is unusually absurd and that I'm trying to either explain it or
> > mitigate it through alcohol.

>
> You guessed correctly in 2 ways.
>
> The one thing that's unsaid is that I thought it was worthy of mention
> that you recognized you probably had no right to complain about repeated
> inside jokes, but you did it anyway.
>
> That's not intended personally. We're talking about absurdity here and
> so it fits nicely. Something basic to human nature causes us to act in
> contradictory/absurd ways.
>
> >
> > Yes and no. I think there's always absurd behavior in life, and my own
> > life is a bit of a celebration of it (you can't take a guy very
> > seriously when his personal website is "the world's only cybermorphic
> > weblog.") But the concentration of absurd behavior in cycling has
> > reached operatic proportions.

>
> Here's where we disagree. I believe that absurd behavior in many forms
> of public life has reached operatic proportions. What's Britney Spears
> up to lately, and why does anyone care? The sniping between the Clinton
> and Obama campaigns is full of calculated absurdity. People are getting
> PAID to think of this stuff and we choose our rulers based upon which of
> them produces absurdities the most effectively. In contrast, the UCI is
> minor.


Those dumbasses are only trying to ruin the Democratic party. The
Alphabetic Cycling Entities are ruining something I care about. A
little.

I guess other things in life are pretty weird.

> > I don't say that because I'm impressed by the grand themes of the
> > various Alphabet Soup Wars that pro cycling is presently engaged in. I
> > say that because I think most operas have plotlines that range from
> > obvious to idiotic:
> >
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_plot>
> >
> > Though I suppose the UCI attempt to reach greatness by pulling itself up
> > from its bootstraps is sort of Wagnerian.

>
> Yes. It's one of those things that you look at and say "What the hell?"
> and wonder whether someone should stop them before they hurt themselves.
> I've decided I hope they do (hurt themselves).


I've decided to buy popcorn and watch. Isn't it a little annoying that
the out-of-competition testing appears to be more interesting than the
competition? It's worse than Formula One!

I have a nightmare vision of the bike races being run essentially as a
necessary evil in order to get to the genuinely interesting sideshows,
be they Alphabet Soup Wars or postdated TUEs or Tugboat's grave
(sponsored by Rock & Republic).

> > Now, it's back to painting my kitchen. Stupid life. What am I saying? I
> > love my stupid life! I love my stupid cyclocross bike, I love
> > web-gardening for my bike club's website, I love that my Friday plan
> > involves (weather permitting) starting out before 7am, driving for an
> > hour with a friend, and then riding CX bikes a couple of hours along a
> > fire road to check out the access to a hot spring. Then we come back.
> >
> > It's a good life! I recommend it! The modest consumption of alcohol
> > doesn't seem to hurt, either.
> >

>
> Very, very cool.


I try. 6:30 am start. The weather's going to be crummy, and we've
decided we want to ride anyway. Gotta go to bed now.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> Robert Chung's linky2tinkywinky is the only reason I remember Ken's
> signature "I am in purple." No tagging or Hollis stocking is necessary.
> If I can't remember, then fallback on 'Don has the internet memorized.'


The Internet I memorized is the one in the Kunich parallel universe. It
has subtle differences from our own universe.
 

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