Re: This group is full of morons



In article
<9c889cb2-52ef-4949-8508-4aa3322b0700@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 11, 12:33 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 11:12 am, "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >

>
> >
> > Look, insulting NECKCAR drivers for being pussies is
> > merely run-of-the-mill RBR obnoxious, but you just explicitly
> > _refused_ to insult triathletes.  We cannot allow that kind of
> > behavior on RBR.  Pipe down until you've unlearned some
> > manners.
> >
> > Ben
> > RBR Chief of Protocol

>
> My sincerest apologies, and for punishment I'll ride a short technical
> crit filled with them, or at least the first 2 or 3 corners, after
> which we'll just be in a big heap on the ground anyway.
> Gotta make sure that I keep the tank topped up with the proper
> Livedrunk Belgian fuel before posting, as is required.
> sincerest regrets
> Bill C
> I'll get back to you to start the road rash treatment thread after
> the crit.


Dumbass: while Belgian beers are sometimes acceptable, LIVEDRUNK's One
True Brewery is Unibroue, based in Quebec.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 
In article
<8be49d26-cabb-41f8-8d77-8def4d61c8c8@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 10, 4:44 pm, [email protected] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> > Paul G.
> >
> > >Damn! He's groveling and kissing your feet like he accidentally
> > >insulted The Godfather. "Mungo impressed!" -Paul

> >
> > Believe it not Paul G. (who served in the USAF) I enjoy a good round of
> > civil debate. I thought I had made an error and mis-quoted Michael
> > Press. Call it what you want (because you will) I call it an apology.

>
> An apology is a good thing. Repeated apologies are groveling and
> unseemly. It's not like you swerved and clipped his front wheel or
> otherwise did him real injury.
>
> > Oh and as long as we're OT, I see/read besides being a bullshiter you're
> > a bully too. Every bully I've ever known was afraid or ashamed of
> > something. What'd you do Paul G.? Or is it who did you?

>
> Sounds like projection to me. I'm holding my own here against a whole
> pack of you jackals. I'm not sure how I can be bullying the lot of
> you. I think that tragedy has pretty much shut up the rest of them,
> but if you'd like to continue, have at it.


I will answer that. One form of bullying is taking
advantage of good will. Nobody here is bullied.

--
Michael Press
 
"Ted van de Weteringe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Paul G. wrote:
>> See? There are worse things than andouillette.

>
> Have you ever eaten it?


I have and there's few thing worse than andouillette in a French cafe.
 
On Mar 11, 9:33 am, Ted van de Weteringe
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > See? There are worse things than andouillette.

>
> Have you ever eaten it?


I'm guessing it's part of the rbr gang initiation- or if it's not, it
should be.
-Paul
 
On Mar 11, 1:44 pm, [email protected] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> >Paul G. writes;
> >if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul
> >Sure! Care to comment on this link?
> >www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text...
> >Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

>
> ..still waiting Paul G.


And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment about but since
you're insistent I'll take a stab at it: why don't you send a copy of
that book to Tony Stewart? With that pot belly and double chin he
looks like he could use an exercise program. Plus, if he loses that
extra weight he'll be able to accelerate faster, and losing that
double chin should lower his center of gravity. Plus, in a crash he
won't get *****-slapped by his double chin!

-Paul
 
On Mar 11, 1:50 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > On Mar 11, 9:33 am, Ted van de Weteringe
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Paul G. wrote:
> >>> See? There are worse things than andouillette.
> >> Have you ever eaten it?

>
> > I'm guessing it's part of the rbr gang initiation- or if it's not, it
> > should be.
> > -Paul

>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/food/andouillette-au-vin-blanc.jpg
>
> Bob Schwartz


OK, straight answer- no, I've never eaten it or heard of it before I
saw mention of it earlier in this thread. But with a couple of mouse
clicks I learned as much as I wanted to know: "...the meat has a more
feces-like flavor...foreigners have been repulsed by the aroma, to the
point where they find it inedible..."

Sounds like as NASCAR is to bike racing, andouillette is to, say, baby
back ribs. I await the wrath of the andouillette fans.
-Paul
 
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article
> <87bc5bf1-03b5-4463-afcf-42ba9cd954be@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 11, 7:10 am, Fred Fredburger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You mistake my meaning. The post from Slave O' the State's that you
>>> responded to is properly read as humorous and satirical. It spoofs
>>> something of which you are unfamiliar.

>> I got that- my coach, Ryan Cousineau filled me in. Well, it's a
>> twofer. Yea, though I amble thru the Starbucks of the shadow of death,
>> I will fear no evil- other than the coffee.
>> -Paul

>
> I'm your coach? Take kenacort.
>
> (It's almost sad how much of this newsgroup's traffic consists of
> grognard in-jokes endlessly repeated, but considering my own
> contributions, I can hardly say I have done anything but reaped what I
> have sown).
>


There are certain defining moments that everyone remembers. No matter
where you are, there are common reference points. Greg, quite
reasonably, referred back to a certain moment that stands as the epitome
of RBR chest-thumping. The reference was relevant to the thread he was
involved in.

To me, that seems different than mentioning "LIVEDRUNK" in every thread,
although LIVEDRUNK was also funny and relevant for a few weeks back in 2005.
 
On Mar 11, 1:56 pm, Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > My sincerest apologies, and for punishment I'll ride a short technical
> > crit filled with them, or at least the first 2 or 3 corners, after
> > which we'll just be in a big heap on the ground anyway.
> >  Gotta make sure that I keep the tank topped up with the proper
> > Livedrunk Belgian fuel before posting, as is required.
> >  sincerest regrets
> > Bill C
> >  I'll get back to you to start the road rash treatment thread after
> > the crit.

>
> Dumbass: while Belgian beers are sometimes acceptable, LIVEDRUNK's One
> True Brewery is Unibroue, based in Quebec.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau [email protected]://www.wiredcola.com/
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Point noted.
Thanks
Bill C
 
>Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>Paul G. writes;
>if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul Sure!
>Care to comment on this link?
>www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text... Best

Regards - Mike Baldwin
>..still waiting Paul G.
>
>skirting the point Paul G. writes;
>
>And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment
>about


Your point was Paul G. _ALL_ nascar drivers were pot-bellied,
double-chinned, out of shape social mis-fit wussies.
The fact that you didn't "see" anything to comment about regarding
nascar driver Mark Martin's fitness book confirms what many have been
thinking all along.

You big head is up your dumb ass.

But I'm sure you're gearing up for another victory lap, having (in
your mind) kicked my ass again.

NO REPLY REQUIRED
 
In article <rcousine-631976.10560611032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dumbass: while Belgian beers are sometimes acceptable, LIVEDRUNK's One
> True Brewery is Unibroue, based in Quebec.


Colin Farrell has a unibrow - but that's different.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
"Michael Baldwin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>>Paul G. writes;
>>if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul Sure!
>>Care to comment on this link?
>>www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text... Best

> Regards - Mike Baldwin
>>..still waiting Paul G.
>>
>>skirting the point Paul G. writes;
>>
>>And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment
>>about

>
> Your point was Paul G. _ALL_ nascar drivers were pot-bellied,
> double-chinned, out of shape social mis-fit wussies.
> The fact that you didn't "see" anything to comment about regarding
> nascar driver Mark Martin's fitness book confirms what many have been
> thinking all along.
>
> You big head is up your dumb ass.
>
> But I'm sure you're gearing up for another victory lap, having (in
> your mind) kicked my ass again.


Mike, I wonder what the hell has gotten under your skin? I remember when you
used to be a joy to read.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:

> More NASCAR fans in here than I would have imagined too.


Maybe fewer than you think. I was involved with car racing for a bunch of years
but haven't watched a race in many years.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Fred Fredburger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article
> > <87bc5bf1-03b5-4463-afcf-42ba9cd954be@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 11, 7:10 am, Fred Fredburger
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You mistake my meaning. The post from Slave O' the State's that you
> >>> responded to is properly read as humorous and satirical. It spoofs
> >>> something of which you are unfamiliar.
> >> I got that- my coach, Ryan Cousineau filled me in. Well, it's a
> >> twofer. Yea, though I amble thru the Starbucks of the shadow of death,
> >> I will fear no evil- other than the coffee.
> >> -Paul

> >
> > I'm your coach? Take kenacort.
> >
> > (It's almost sad how much of this newsgroup's traffic consists of
> > grognard in-jokes endlessly repeated, but considering my own
> > contributions, I can hardly say I have done anything but reaped what I
> > have sown).
> >

>
> There are certain defining moments that everyone remembers. No matter
> where you are, there are common reference points. Greg, quite
> reasonably, referred back to a certain moment that stands as the epitome
> of RBR chest-thumping. The reference was relevant to the thread he was
> involved in.
>
> To me, that seems different than mentioning "LIVEDRUNK" in every thread,
> although LIVEDRUNK was also funny and relevant for a few weeks back in 2005.


That's sweet. I only try to mention LIVEDRUNK in threads where the
subject of alcohol is already present or seems obviously relevant.

The problem is that somewhere along the line, LIVEDRUNK became,
reasonably, a shorthand explanation for dumb behavior, and then shortly
after that, professional cycling became an orgy of dumb behavior.

Really, you can hardly blame me if the ridiculous acronyms of cycling
(UCI, ASO, WADA, R&R, take your pick...) drove the newsgroup to drink.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
 
On Mar 11, 6:04 pm, [email protected] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> >Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> >Paul G. writes;
> >if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul Sure!
> >Care to comment on this link?
> >www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text... Best

>
> Regards - Mike Baldwin
>
> >..still waiting Paul G.

>
> >skirting the point Paul G. writes;

>
> >And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment
> >about

>
> Your point was Paul G. _ALL_ nascar drivers were pot-bellied,
> double-chinned, out of shape social mis-fit wussies.
> The fact that you didn't "see" anything to comment about regarding
> nascar driver Mark Martin's fitness book confirms what many have been
> thinking all along.
>
> You big head is up your dumb ass.
>
> But I'm sure you're gearing up for another victory lap, having (in
> your mind) kicked my ass again.
>
> NO REPLY REQUIRED


Yeah, a reply is required. I never said ALL NASCAR drivers had pot
bellies and double chins. I'm sure some of them are reasonably fit.
What I did say is that while some NASCAR drivers are out of shape,
there is no such thing as as a professional cyclist with a pot belly
and/or double chin. They'd be off the back and off the team.

In fact, I think it's pretty unlikely that ANY NASCAR driver is
nearly as fit as ANY pro cyclist because it takes a lot of time and
effort to achieve and maintain that level of fitness. Obviously if
this guy Tony Stewart can win NASCAR races with a pot belly, NASCAR
racing doesn't require a very high fitness level.

More proof- here's Nascar driver **** Trickle smoking... during a
race:
>http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/2206/this-is-fcukin-gas-driver-smoking-in-a-nascar


These guys are clearly not athletes.

Regarding the gratuitous insults- is that the best you can do?
I'm just going to relax, sit back and watch while you continue to kick
your own ass.

-Paul

p.s. NASCAR drivers are wusses compared to bike racers. :))
 
"Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:75ef9997-90cb-4546-808f-8c23af54d435@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 11, 6:04 pm, [email protected] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>> >Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>> >Paul G. writes;
>> >if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul Sure!
>> >Care to comment on this link?
>> >www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text... Best

>>
>> Regards - Mike Baldwin
>>
>> >..still waiting Paul G.

>>
>> >skirting the point Paul G. writes;

>>
>> >And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment
>> >about

>>
>> Your point was Paul G. _ALL_ nascar drivers were pot-bellied,
>> double-chinned, out of shape social mis-fit wussies.
>> The fact that you didn't "see" anything to comment about regarding
>> nascar driver Mark Martin's fitness book confirms what many have been
>> thinking all along.
>>
>> You big head is up your dumb ass.
>>
>> But I'm sure you're gearing up for another victory lap, having (in
>> your mind) kicked my ass again.
>>
>> NO REPLY REQUIRED

>
> Yeah, a reply is required. I never said ALL NASCAR drivers had pot
> bellies and double chins. I'm sure some of them are reasonably fit.
> What I did say is that while some NASCAR drivers are out of shape,
> there is no such thing as as a professional cyclist with a pot belly
> and/or double chin. They'd be off the back and off the team.
>
> In fact, I think it's pretty unlikely that ANY NASCAR driver is
> nearly as fit as ANY pro cyclist because it takes a lot of time and
> effort to achieve and maintain that level of fitness. Obviously if
> this guy Tony Stewart can win NASCAR races with a pot belly, NASCAR
> racing doesn't require a very high fitness level.
>
> More proof- here's Nascar driver **** Trickle smoking... during a
> race:
>>http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/2206/this-is-fcukin-gas-driver-smoking-in-a-nascar

>
> These guys are clearly not athletes.
>
> Regarding the gratuitous insults- is that the best you can do?
> I'm just going to relax, sit back and watch while you continue to kick
> your own ass.
>
> -Paul
>
> p.s. NASCAR drivers are wusses compared to bike racers. :))


If smoking is a determining factor in athleticness, you should know that a
fair number of riders smoke socially in the off season, some even in the
disco the night after a race.
 
Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> I only try to mention LIVEDRUNK in threads where the
> subject of alcohol is already present or seems obviously relevant.
>


And, given the prevalence of NASCAR threads lately, that's pretty much
all of them.

> The problem is that somewhere along the line, LIVEDRUNK became,
> reasonably, a shorthand explanation for dumb behavior, and then shortly
> after that, professional cycling became an orgy of dumb behavior.


I've read enough of your stuff that I have problems believing that
you're less aware of life's general absurdity than I am. That doesn't
wash. Maybe you just know fewer dumb sober people than I do. I find that
alcohol sometimes even IMPROVES that situation. It's hard to say
anything dumb when you've passed out.

For whatever reason, some things get repeated a lot in RBR.
groups.google.com says that livedrunk (sometimes spelled "live drunk"?)
outnumbers Starbucks references (for any reason at all) by better than
2-1. So you're bigger than Starbucks, if you want to look at it that way.
 
On Mar 12, 3:40 am, Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's sweet. I only try to mention LIVEDRUNK in threads where the
> subject of alcohol is already present or seems obviously relevant.
>

It's always relevant now. It's become part of the culture and fuction
here like Tammy, the "Winning" pic, Greg's pet primates, etc...
Especially during cross season, or the "off" season it's definitely a
serious topic. Seems that way with most of the bicycle racing related
groups, not just here.
Bill C
 
On Mar 12, 4:48 am, "Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:75ef9997-90cb-4546-808f-8c23af54d435@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 11, 6:04 pm, [email protected] (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> >> >Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> >> >Paul G. writes;
> >> >if you'd like to continue, have at it. -Paul Sure!
> >> >Care to comment on this link?
> >> >www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0879388439/ref=dp_image_text... Best

>
> >> Regards - Mike Baldwin

>
> >> >..still waiting Paul G.

>
> >> >skirting the point Paul G. writes;

>
> >> >And your point is...? I didn't see anything to comment
> >> >about

>
> >> Your point was Paul G. _ALL_ nascar drivers were pot-bellied,
> >> double-chinned, out of shape social mis-fit wussies.
> >> The fact that you didn't "see" anything to comment about regarding
> >> nascar driver Mark Martin's fitness book confirms what many have been
> >> thinking all along.

>
> >> You big head is up your dumb ass.

>
> >> But I'm sure you're gearing up for another victory lap, having (in
> >> your mind) kicked my ass again.

>
> >> NO REPLY REQUIRED

>
> > Yeah, a reply is required. I never said ALL NASCAR drivers had pot
> > bellies and double chins. I'm sure some of them are reasonably fit.
> > What I did say is that while some NASCAR drivers are out of shape,
> > there is no such thing as as a professional cyclist with a pot belly
> > and/or double chin. They'd be off the back and off the team.

>
> > In fact, I think it's pretty unlikely that ANY NASCAR driver is
> > nearly as fit as ANY pro cyclist because it takes a lot of time and
> > effort to achieve and maintain that level of fitness. Obviously if
> > this guy Tony Stewart can win NASCAR races with a pot belly, NASCAR
> > racing doesn't require a very high fitness level.

>
> > More proof- here's Nascar driver **** Trickle smoking... during a
> > race:
> >>http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/2206/this-is-fcukin-gas-driver-smok...

>
> > These guys are clearly not athletes.

>
> > Regarding the gratuitous insults- is that the best you can do?
> > I'm just going to relax, sit back and watch while you continue to kick
> > your own ass.

>
> > -Paul

>
> > p.s. NASCAR drivers are wusses compared to bike racers. :))

>
> If smoking is a determining factor in athleticness, you should know that a
> fair number of riders smoke socially in the off season, some even in the
> disco the night after a race.


Ah- perhaps that explains why the French do so poorly in the TDF. I
can picture them with cigarettes dangling from their lips while they
inject EPO. I have no personal knowledge of any smoking by
professional cyclists, (I can't recall ever seeing even a club rider
smoking) but in a large enough population I suppose some anomalous
stuff goes on, particularly in the off season. You have any names to
go with that "a fair number of riders smoke" statement?

However, my point is "NASCAR racing doesn't require a very high
fitness level" compared with pro cycling. Some of them are overweight,
some of them are regular smokers, maybe some are both, but they can
still win races. That would be impossible in professional cycling.
-Paul
 

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