Re: Shocking moment drunk driver ploughs into group of cyclists.



francis <[email protected]> wrote:

> So if I twist the signs round at the crossroads & turn the '6' upside
> down on the gate I'll be allright.


It's probably best to have a photograph taken of yourself right outside
the house. Try to look as if you have absolutely no connection with the
property when the photo is taken. I suggest kneeling down by your own
hedge farting about with a very large trailer and bicycle getting
whoever is taking the photo to include enough peripheral detail to
unequivocally identify the property.

Then post the photo to several websites and issue strenuous denials that
the house, bicycle, trailer etc have anything at all to do with you. To
add a level of plausible deniability register several internet domains
from the same address and make lots of posts to usenet boasting about
these domains.

It's a flawless way of ensuring no one know who you are or where you
live.
 
Steve Firth wrote:
> francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So if I twist the signs round at the crossroads & turn the '6' upside
>> down on the gate I'll be allright.

>
> It's probably best to have a photograph taken of yourself right outside
> the house. Try to look as if you have absolutely no connection with the
> property when the photo is taken. I suggest kneeling down by your own
> hedge farting about with a very large trailer and bicycle getting
> whoever is taking the photo to include enough peripheral detail to
> unequivocally identify the property.
>
> Then post the photo to several websites and issue strenuous denials that
> the house, bicycle, trailer etc have anything at all to do with you. To
> add a level of plausible deniability register several internet domains
> from the same address and make lots of posts to usenet boasting about
> these domains.
>
> It's a flawless way of ensuring no one know who you are or where you
> live.


Ooh, you are awful ... but I like you

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Tony the Dragon
 
Doug wrote:
> On 7 Jun, 09:24, francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jun 7, 6:47 am, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6 Jun, 12:21, Daniel Barlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>> roads each year. There would be other problems also caused by taking
>>>>> cars away from people: how would people drive themselves or their
>>>>> loved ones to hospital if there was no time to wait for an ambulance,
>>>>> for example?
>>>> Well, the other day I got a taxi, for example. Though the irony is
>>>> that if the car driver that ran into me _had_ had his car taken away
>>>> from him (I am not advocating this, merely commenting on the
>>>> possibility), I wouldn't have whiplash and a dislocated clavicle in
>>>> the first place.
>>>>> As I said above, cars are vital for society in its current form.
>>>> Many of the journeys made using them, however, are not. The taxi I
>>>> was in on Wednesday got stuck in traffic several times, and A&E wasn't
>>>> *nearly* full enough for them all to have been takng loved ones to
>>>> hospital.
>>> Having been hit and injured by cars myself I strongly sympathise with
>>> you. Were you blamed initially, which seems to be a common practice
>>> whenever cyclists are involved in crashes with drivers?
>>> --
>>> Car Free Citieshttp://www.carfree.com/
>>> Carfree Cities proposes a delightful solution
>>> to the vexing problem of urban automobiles.

>> Thank you for your input to this newsgroup Doug
>>

> Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
> these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
> Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
> details published on the internet, including your home address and
> telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
> subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
> which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.
>
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
>


Has it worked and are you dead yet?

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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:40:12 +0100, ®i©ardo <[email protected]> said
in <[email protected]>:

[snip Duhg]

>Has it worked and are you dead yet?


we should introduce him to Mike Corley, I'm sure they would get on
like a house on fire. Or maybe a car on fire, at least.

Guy
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On Jun 8, 8:40 pm, ®i©ardo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 7 Jun, 09:24, francis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Jun 7, 6:47 am, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >>> On 6 Jun, 12:21, Daniel Barlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> writes:
> >>>>> roads each year. There would be other problems also caused by taking
> >>>>> cars away from people: how would people drive themselves or their
> >>>>> loved ones to hospital if there was no time to wait for an ambulance,
> >>>>> for example?
> >>>> Well, the other day I got a taxi, for example. Though the irony is
> >>>> that if the car driver that ran into me _had_ had his car taken away
> >>>> from him (I am not advocating this, merely commenting on the
> >>>> possibility), I wouldn't have whiplash and a dislocated clavicle in
> >>>> the first place.
> >>>>> As I said above, cars are vital for society in its current form.
> >>>> Many of the journeys made using them, however, are not. The taxi I
> >>>> was in on Wednesday got stuck in traffic several times, and A&E wasn't
> >>>> *nearly* full enough for them all to have been takng loved ones to
> >>>> hospital.
> >>> Having been hit and injured by cars myself I strongly sympathise with
> >>> you. Were you blamed initially, which seems to be a common practice
> >>> whenever cyclists are involved in crashes with drivers?
> >>> --
> >>> Car Free Citieshttp://www.carfree.com/
> >>> Carfree Cities proposes a delightful solution
> >>> to the vexing problem of urban automobiles.
> >> Thank you for your input to this newsgroup Doug

>
> > Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
> > these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
> > Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
> > details published on the internet, including your home address and
> > telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
> > subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
> > which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.

>
> > --
> > World Carfree Network
> >http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> > Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

>
> Has it worked and are you dead yet?
>
> --
> Moving things in still pictures!


I'm sorry I can't divulge that information, if I did I'd have to kill
you.
Now is it left or right off of the A205?

Francis
 
francis wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:40 pm, ®i©ardo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 7 Jun, 09:24, francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 7, 6:47 am, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 6 Jun, 12:21, Daniel Barlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>>> roads each year. There would be other problems also caused by taking
>>>>>>> cars away from people: how would people drive themselves or their
>>>>>>> loved ones to hospital if there was no time to wait for an ambulance,
>>>>>>> for example?
>>>>>> Well, the other day I got a taxi, for example. Though the irony is
>>>>>> that if the car driver that ran into me _had_ had his car taken away
>>>>>> from him (I am not advocating this, merely commenting on the
>>>>>> possibility), I wouldn't have whiplash and a dislocated clavicle in
>>>>>> the first place.
>>>>>>> As I said above, cars are vital for society in its current form.
>>>>>> Many of the journeys made using them, however, are not. The taxi I
>>>>>> was in on Wednesday got stuck in traffic several times, and A&E wasn't
>>>>>> *nearly* full enough for them all to have been takng loved ones to
>>>>>> hospital.
>>>>> Having been hit and injured by cars myself I strongly sympathise with
>>>>> you. Were you blamed initially, which seems to be a common practice
>>>>> whenever cyclists are involved in crashes with drivers?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Car Free Citieshttp://www.carfree.com/
>>>>> Carfree Cities proposes a delightful solution
>>>>> to the vexing problem of urban automobiles.
>>>> Thank you for your input to this newsgroup Doug
>>> Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
>>> these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
>>> Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
>>> details published on the internet, including your home address and
>>> telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
>>> subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
>>> which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.
>>> --
>>> World Carfree Network
>>> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
>>> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

>> Has it worked and are you dead yet?
>>
>> --
>> Moving things in still pictures!

>
> I'm sorry I can't divulge that information, if I did I'd have to kill
> you.
> Now is it left or right off of the A205?
>
> Francis


Unfortunately that's classified information.

;-)

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Moving things in still pictures!
 
On 8 Jun, 11:52, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
> > these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
> > Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
> > details published on the internet, including your home address and
> > telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
> > subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
> > which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.

>
> I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
> addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
> once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
> details posted actually related to you.
>

Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me? I am not
the only one on newsgroups who is similarly targeted, as Mr Filth and
Mr Bollen, for example, must surely agree.

As for stalking, this has taken place at public venues and, of course,
the death threats were issued on newsgroups.

As anyone who reads these newsgroups will know, motorists in
particular seem to have a vindictive and hostile nature and are
sometimes given to violence, probably as a result of their daily
competition for road space with its attendant stress.

Is that clear now?

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http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
 
Doug wrote:
> On 8 Jun, 11:52, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way
>>> on these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal
>>> abuse. Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your
>>> personal details published on the internet, including your home
>>> address and telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the
>>> past I have been subjected to death threats and stalking. There
>>> seem to be no limits to which these car junkies will not go in
>>> order to protect their fix.

>>
>> I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
>> addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
>> once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
>> details posted actually related to you.
>>

> Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me? I am not
> the only one on newsgroups who is similarly targeted, as Mr Filth and
> Mr Bollen, for example, must surely agree.
>
> As for stalking, this has taken place at public venues and, of course,
> the death threats were issued on newsgroups.
>
> As anyone who reads these newsgroups will know, motorists in
> particular seem to have a vindictive and hostile nature and are
> sometimes given to violence, probably as a result of their daily
> competition for road space with its attendant stress.
>
> Is that clear now?


What a wonderful contribution. Thank you for that Doug.
 
Doug wrote:

> JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:


>>> Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
>>> these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
>>> Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
>>> details published on the internet, including your home address and
>>> telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
>>> subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
>>> which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.


>> I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
>> addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
>> once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
>> details posted actually related to you.
>>

> Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me?


See above, where you said (and I quote):

"Francis ... [if] you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on these
newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse. Not only
that but you could be intimidated by having your personal details
published on the internet, including your home address and telephone
number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been subjected
to death threats and stalking".

> Is that clear now?


Not really. Either your address has been published or it hasn't.
 
On 9 Jun, 06:55, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8 Jun, 11:52, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:> > Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
> > > these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
> > > Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
> > > details published on the internet, including your home address and
> > > telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
> > > subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
> > > which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.

>
> > I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
> > addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
> > once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
> > details posted actually related to you.

>
> Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me? I am not
> the only one on newsgroups who is similarly targeted, as Mr Filth and
> Mr Bollen, for example, must surely agree.


<snigger>

Does Mr Bollen complain to you about the attention he receives on this
group?
 
On Jun 9, 6:55 am, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8 Jun, 11:52, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:> > Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
> > > these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
> > > Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
> > > details published on the internet, including your home address and
> > > telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
> > > subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
> > > which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.

>
> > I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
> > addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
> > once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
> > details posted actually related to you.

>
> Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me? I am not
> the only one on newsgroups who is similarly targeted, as Mr Filth and
> Mr Bollen, for example, must surely agree.
>
> As for stalking, this has taken place at public venues and, of course,
> the death threats were issued on newsgroups.
>
> As anyone who reads these newsgroups will know, motorists in
> particular seem to have a vindictive and hostile nature and are
> sometimes given to violence, probably as a result of their daily
> competition for road space with its attendant stress.
>
> Is that clear now?
>
> --
> World Carfree Networkhttp://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.


Thank you for your input to this newsgroup Doug

Fancis
 
Doug wrote:
> On 8 Jun, 11:52, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Be careful, Francis! If you are perceived to be anti-car in any way on
>>> these newsgroups you are liable to be showered with personal abuse.
>>> Not only that but you could be intimidated by having your personal
>>> details published on the internet, including your home address and
>>> telephone number. It doesn't end there either. In the past I have been
>>> subjected to death threats and stalking. There seem to be no limits to
>>> which these car junkies will not go in order to protect their fix.

>> I don't agree with the hostile publication of personal details, home
>> addresses or telephone numbers on usenet and have said so more than
>> once, but my understanding was that you have always denied that the
>> details posted actually related to you.
>>

> Where have I stated that a particular address belongs to me? I am not
> the only one on newsgroups who is similarly targeted, as Mr Filth and
> Mr Bollen, for example, must surely agree.
>

You have stated that this address does not belong to you, are you now
saying that you are not Doug Bollen, who if the details posted are
correct does live at that address.

> As for stalking, this has taken place at public venues


Please expand

and, of course,
> the death threats were issued on newsgroups.
>
> As anyone who reads these newsgroups will know, motorists in
> particular seem to have a vindictive and hostile nature and are
> sometimes given to violence, probably as a result of their daily
> competition for road space with its attendant stress.


Rubbish, I am a motorist & am generally not violent
>
> Is that clear now?



Er, no
>
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
>
>
>



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Tony the Dragon