Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
> Roger Merriman said the following on 30/05/2007 10:02:
>
> > jumpers or chancers? i see people who don't stop as it turns red, mostly
> > cars. what the bike jumpers tend to do is roll though well after it's
> > turned red, i suspect it's the willfull nature of it, rather than
> > "sneaking" though.
>
> No, there are certain lights here where it is quite common for cars to
> continue through on red even after the lights for traffic flow in the
> other direction are green (i.e, they've been amber then red for quite
> some time), or for cars and buses to just totally ignore red pedestrian
> crossing lights. One ped crossing by me is so bad that I reckon 8 or 9
> times out of 10 that I use it the red light will be jumped. The
> council's response to my compliant was that they have to wait for
> several people to be killed before they will think about looking at the
> problem. I suppose at least they have now installed barriers to prevent
> cars leaving a forecourt by using the ped crossing (Hayers on Locking
> Rd, for the locals) - I really have seen someone lean out of a car
> window to press the button, and it was that that got me wound up enough
> to contact the council.
>
in many ways i feel that pelcon crossing are better than light controled
crossing.
> Anyway, it's not as if there is no warning that the lights are about to
> go red because there's a bloody great amber light first, so *anyone* who
> goes through a light on red is a jumper. A chancer is someone who goes
> through when the amber has been on for a while.
true, though do get a good one, localy with the light between bushy park
and kingston bridge. where some cyclist instead of waiting at the lights
cross on to the other side of the road and ride the wrong way until they
can turn onto the pavment. sadly this isn't just one persons bad idea.
but in heavy traffic people do seem to stop thinking and do some dumb
things.
roger
