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> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:47:19 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> I guess; corportate America does like to ensure that the genuine
>>> starvation wages are applied only to brown folks in faraway places,
>>> out of sight, out of mind.
>
>>Every nation in the world is sovereign. That is what constitutes the very
>>definition of a nation. It was Britain that had colonies. We Americans
>>were
>>never really into that much.
>
> We had colonisation, you have Coca-Colanisation. It's the same thing
> but with worse teeth.
It is my understanding that Coke is not all that bad for the teeth as long
as you are not swishing it around in your mouth before swallowing.
[...]
>>>>But the US has the responsibility of providing for the security of the
>>>>West and indeed the entire world.
>
>>> Only because it has arrogated it. Nobody asked, and I think quite a
>>> few people would be perfectly happy if it dropped that role.
>
>>Europe has been given a free ride ever since the conclusion of WW II.
>
> Really? I'm sure that will come as a great comfort to the service
> widows. Since the Coronation, over half a century ago, there has only
> been one year in which no British serviceman has been killd on active
> service.
There will always be small brush fire type of wars until the end of time,
human nature being what it is. But there has been no war anything like WW II
since the US assumed super power status.
[...]
>>But the US, as the only remaining
>>super power, will continue to have world responsibilities for the
>>foreseeable future.
>
> Not really. Your government might choose to see themselves as the
> world's Wyatt Earp, but very often US intervention is heavy-handed and
> causes more pain than it solves. Look at the Balkans and the Middle
> East for example.
There is at present no genocide going on in the Balkans. If Iraq can be
democratized, then the complexion of the entire Middle East will be forever
different. All the present Arab autocracies in the region fear this more
than anything else.
>>> Once again you confuse opposition to illegal invasions with treason, a
>>> common mistake among right-wing zealots.
>
>>You are not on the right side in the War on Terrorism. Because you aren't
>>you are in effect betraying the West and your natural heritage. It is
>>really
>>quite shameful.
>
> Once again you confuse opposition to illegal invasions with treason, a
> common mistake among right-wing zealots.
You must get rid of this concern for legalities. It has no place at all in
the conduct of nations. All nations are sovereign and can do anything they
want to.
> I was against terrorism back int he days when the CIA was running the
> terorrists, and I'm still against it now. Bombing the **** out of
> civilians is not a proven route to reducing terrorism.
>
>>> The level of threat to my country from Saddam Hussein was
>>> approximately zero, and the same applied to the USA. The only group
>>> of terrorists which attacked the USA were trained and equipped by the
>>> CIA, and anyway they attacked mainly in response to US foreign policy
>>> ****ups. So Saddam gassed the Marsh Arabs? So did Churchill. We of
>>> the west have absolutely nothing to be smug about here, and no
>>> justification whatever for feelings of moral supriority.
>
>>The entire above paragraph is too stupid for words - and so ... no words.
>
> The entire paragraph is true. Saddam posed NO threat to my country,
> and NO threat to the US.
Your paragraph above is completely false in that it assumes certain things
to be true which are not true.
As for the threat posed by Sadaam's Iraq, it was real and the entire world
worried about it. Intentions matter enormously and Sadaam had nothing but
bad intentions toward the West. The fact is that we are now living in a new
era because of the possibility of rogue nations acquiring nuclear weapons.
Old Europe will do nothing about this threat. Only the US can deal with it.
You should be on your knees every day thanking God that Bush is president of
the US and is standing up to the threat of terrorists and rogues states
acquiring nuclear weapons. If and when one of these weapons goes off in the
West by a terrorist act, the history of the world will change forever. The
West will lose most of the freedom that it has cherished down through the
ages in favor of security. Security will be everything and freedom will
belong to the past. It will indeed be a Brave New World we will all be
living in. Is that what you want?
--
Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
