Re: Impotence



"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [...]
> >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
> >> other
> >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where
> >> we
> >> are coming from.
> >
> > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
> > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find
both
> > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would
attempt
> > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
> > some
> > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
> > more
> > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
>
> You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
> except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.

You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of your
own fears of intimacy and sexuality.

You should seek the help of a qualified mental health professional...living
such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

>You should try to
> rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
> never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.

I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

>
> >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
purpose
> > of
> >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
> > purpose
> >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
you!

Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

> >
> > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
> > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
> > fears
> > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
>
> You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
> your difficulties.

Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

> [...]
>
> > Why don't you answer the question?
>
> I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
> What else do you have to know beyond that!

For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet bloward
"saints").

GG

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
 
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> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[...]
>> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
> known
>> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
[...]

> Evasion duly noted.
>
> Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of
> any
> kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
>
> Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
> relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these
> matters.

"The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
known
far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!" - Ed Dolan

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
> in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of
> your
> own fears of intimacy and sexuality.
>
> You should seek the help of a qualified mental health
> professional...living
> such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

"The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
known
far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!" - Ed Dolan

>>You should try to
>> rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
>> never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.
>
> I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.

Forget original sin. You are sinning every day by your conduct and there is
nothing to be done about it because you are too stupid to know sin when you
see it.

>> >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
> purpose
>> > of
>> >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
>> > purpose
>> >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
> you!
>
> Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.

"You are sinning every day by your conduct and there is nothing to be done
about it because you are too stupid to know sin when you see it." - Ed Dolan

>> > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements
>> > worthless.
>> > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
>> > fears
>> > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
>>
>> You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
>> your difficulties.
>
> Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.

You need to stop sinning and in general behaving like a besotted soul.
Model yourself after me and you will be on the right path for once in your
miserable life. Who knows, you might even be able to become a minor saint,
but never a Great Saint like Me. Too much sin has gone under your bridge.

>> [...]
>>
>> > Why don't you answer the question?
>>
>> I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
>> What else do you have to know beyond that!
>
> For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
> believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet
> bloward
> "saints").

"I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
What else do you have to know beyond that!" - Ed Dolan

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:19:44 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >> > Not a problem for me.
>> >> >
>> >> > First, let me assure you that I'm not gay.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just don't like women anymore. Having a wife or a girlfriend
>> >> > involves 'WAY too many compromises, as far as I am concerned. They
>are
>> >> > just a pain in the ass, always complaining about something or other,
>> >> > and always quick to criticize you but think their own **** doesn't
>> >> > stink. The small amount of time that you spend having sex with them
>> >> > isn't worth it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Plus, let's face it, most women are as dumb as a brick. They never
>> >> > learned anything in school; they are anti-intellectual as a defense
>> >> > mechanism, and they are resentful of men who did well in school, went
>> >> > to college and graduate school, and who are successful.
>> >> >
>> >> > All women want is a man who is going to follow around behind them,
>> >> > cleaning up their messes like the guy in the circus parade who
>follows
>> >> > along behind the elephants. Oh, how could I have almost forgotten,
>> >> > they want the man to give them a lot of money. Of course they don't
>> >> > appreciate it because they are resentful that the man is successful
>and
>> >> > has the money to give them. And even if you do give them all the
>money
>> >> > they want, they probably won't want to have sex with you anyway.
>> >> >
>> >> > To make matters worse, even though they are dumb and
>overly-emotional,
>> >> > they want to call all the shots in the relationship! And they want
>to
>> >> > buy, buy, buy. "I feel inadequate. I'd better buy something."
>> >> >
>> >> > And if you marry one, she'll use you as a sperm donor until it
>becomes
>> >> > too much of a hassle to deal with you, and then she'll kick your ass
>> >> > out so you lose your family. But keep sending those support checks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Women are really evil and screwed up.
>> >> >
>> >> > In short, who needs women? I just avoid them like the plague, and
>have
>> >> > never been happier.
>> >>
>> >> Folson, you are a genius almost on my level. I have not had your
>> > experience
>> >> of women, but I KNOW everything you say about them is true. So very
>many
>> >> poor men slobs seem not to have a clue about women. It just sickens me
>> > that
>> >> men can be such fools and all-around dumbbells. Well, it all has to do
>> > with
>> >> the sex angle and nothing else. Men want sex and women want children.
>> >> From
>> >> that springs all the misunderstandings between the sexes. Unless men
>also
>> >> want children, they are better off staying as far away from the female
>> >> sex
>> >> as they can get.
>> >
>> > ED, please don't project your fears of intimacy and sexuality upon the
>> > rest
>> > of the male gender. You're a well-documented misanthrope and
>misogynist,
>> > with well-documented fears of intimacy (of any kind).
>>
>> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any other
>> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where we
>> are coming from.
>
>There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
>difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find both
>natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would attempt
>to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer some
>sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing more
>than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).

"Weirdo" is just the mountain bikers' way of trying to discredit
honest people, without really saying anything. They are the masters of
saying nothing. They HAVE to be, or the truth about their selfish,
destructive, disgusting sport will leak out.

>> > For most normal men, physical and social intimacy with women is part of
>> > the
>> > definition of a life well lived. Of course, you're free to live your
>> > lonely
>> > life as you see fit. But insulting all women just because you fear
>them,
>> > and insulting most men who would prefer their company, just makes you
>look
>> > like even more of a weirdo and misfit.
>>
>> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the purpose
>of
>> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
>purpose
>> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take you!
>
>Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
>It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your fears
>represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
>
>> > BTW - When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation excluded)?
>> > I'm
>> > guessing it's been a very long time. Perhaps you've simply forgotten,
>or
>> > never learned, what a pleasant experience it can be.
>>
>> Poor GaryG is a lost soul and in my Saintly eyes damned by his own
>thoughts
>> and actions. But he is essentially a man of nature who is lost in the
>grips
>> of that nature and not much better than the beasts of the field. His lot
>is
>> the common lot of most of mankind. He does not know what to make of a
>> superior type such as myself who has risen above the dictates of our
>nature.
>> He is also clearly incapable of any of the higher religions unless they
>are
>> watered down for the likes of him.
>
>Why don't you answer the question?
>
>GG
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1m5lg.776$%[email protected]...
>> > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> [...]
>> >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
>> >> other
>> >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of where
>> >> we
>> >> are coming from.
>> >
>> > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
>> > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find
>both
>> > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would
>attempt
>> > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
>> > some
>> > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
>> > more
>> > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
>>
>> You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
>> except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.
>
>You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your pronouncements
>in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of your
>own fears of intimacy and sexuality.
>
>You should seek the help of a qualified mental health professional...living
>such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.

Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

>>You should try to
>> rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
>> never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.
>
>I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.
>
>>
>> >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
>purpose
>> > of
>> >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
>> > purpose
>> >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
>you!
>
>Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.
>
>> >
>> > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements worthless.
>> > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that your
>> > fears
>> > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
>>
>> You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of all
>> your difficulties.
>
>Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.
>
>> [...]
>>
>> > Why don't you answer the question?
>>
>> I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable life.
>> What else do you have to know beyond that!
>
>For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
>believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet bloward
>"saints").
>
>GG
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>
>
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> [...]
>> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
>assume
>> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
>> >
>> > That would explain a lot.
>>
>> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
>known
>> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>
>Evasion duly noted.
>
>Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of any
>kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
>
>Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
>relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these matters.

Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
disgusting sport.

>GG
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> [...]
> >> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
> >assume
> >> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
> >> >
> >> > That would explain a lot.
> >>
> >> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
> >known
> >> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> >Evasion duly noted.
> >
> >Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of
any
> >kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
> >
> >Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
> >relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these
matters.
>
> Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
> Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
> treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
> anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
> disgusting sport.

Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.

For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
opportunity troll baiter):

When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
prostitutes excluded)?

GG

>
> >GG
> >
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure ********"). Want to help me recover?
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:1m5lg.776$%[email protected]...
> >> > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> [...]
> >> >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
> >> >> other
> >> >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of
where
> >> >> we
> >> >> are coming from.
> >> >
> >> > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must
be
> >> > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find
> >both
> >> > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would
> >attempt
> >> > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears
confer
> >> > some
> >> > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be
nothing
> >> > more
> >> > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
> >>
> >> You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
> >> except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.
> >
> >You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your
pronouncements
> >in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of
your
> >own fears of intimacy and sexuality.
> >
> >You should seek the help of a qualified mental health
professional...living
> >such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.
>
> Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
> needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
> inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
> is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
> because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.

How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you were
obtaining your degree?

Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested that
you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
seem to be perpetually angry, and surely that can't be a pleasant way to
live.

FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees in
Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are motivated
by their own "issues").

GG

>
> >>You should try to
> >> rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
> >> never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.
> >
> >I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.
> >
> >>
> >> >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
> >purpose
> >> > of
> >> >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
> >> > purpose
> >> >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
> >you!
> >
> >Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.
> >
> >> >
> >> > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements
worthless.
> >> > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that
your
> >> > fears
> >> > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
> >>
> >> You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of
all
> >> your difficulties.
> >
> >Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.
> >
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > Why don't you answer the question?
> >>
> >> I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable
life.
> >> What else do you have to know beyond that!
> >
> >For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
> >believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet
bloward
> >"saints").
> >
> >GG
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
"GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
[...]
>> Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
>> Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
>> treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
>> anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
>> disgusting sport.
>
> Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.
>
> For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
> disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an
> equal
> opportunity troll baiter):
>
> When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
> prostitutes excluded)?

GaryG is the only troll present on these newsgroups. If and when I make some
comments on women, it is incumbent on him to attack those views if he
disagrees with them, but instead he attacks me personally, accusing me of
all kinds of who knows what.

But Gary is making a far more serious mistake in that he has riled Saint
Edward the Great. This is not something to be undertaken lightly as Saint
Edward the Great is a most fearsome Saint and He will soon have GaryG
squirming on the floor like the human scum that he is.

The bottom line for me is that GaryG like all scoundrels does not use his
real name on these forums. Therefore, he is suspect and not to be taken
seriously. He pretends to be a normal person when all he is is a normal
scoundrel!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
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> "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
[...]
>> >You should seek the help of a qualified mental health
> professional...living
>> >such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.
>>
>> Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
>> needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
>> inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
>> is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
>> because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.
>
> How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
> mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
> mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you
> were
> obtaining your degree?

Poor GaryG is unable to deal with anyone who does not hold to the
conventional views about men and society. That is because he is a
conventional man with all the hang-ups of a conventional man. His idea of an
attack is to accuse someone with whom he disagrees of sexual perversion.
This is typical redneck behavior. Does not that just about say it all?

> Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested
> that
> you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
> seem to be perpetually angry, and surely that can't be a pleasant way to
> live.

We only pretend to be angry for the benefit and amusement of the general
reader. If you think we would actually waste any anger on the likes of you,
then you are crazier than I thought.

> FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees
> in
> Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are
> motivated
> by their own "issues").

It is not easy to get a Ph.D degree in any subject whatsoever. I got as far
as a Masters (not in psychology) and then I said to hell with it!
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:45:19 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:46:24 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:1m5lg.776$%[email protected]...
>> >> > "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> [...]
>> >> >> Why would any sane person want to have any kind of intimacy with any
>> >> >> other
>> >> >> human being? Are you crazy? Also, reread Folson to get an idea of
>where
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> are coming from.
>> >> >
>> >> > There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must
>be
>> >> > difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find
>> >both
>> >> > natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would
>> >attempt
>> >> > to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears
>confer
>> >> > some
>> >> > sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be
>nothing
>> >> > more
>> >> > than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
>> >>
>> >> You are no doubt into what you term pleasurable, but it is not natural
>> >> except to the beasts of the field - which is what you are.
>> >
>> >You're a virgin, ED, with a deep-seated fear of women. Your
>pronouncements
>> >in this area are worthless....they're nothing more than projections of
>your
>> >own fears of intimacy and sexuality.
>> >
>> >You should seek the help of a qualified mental health
>professional...living
>> >such a lonely and fear-ridden life must surely be most unpleasant.
>>
>> Smells like fascism: anyone who doesn't think like a mountain biker
>> needs to be be brainwashed, right? ESPECIALLY if they happen to expose
>> inconvenient truths about your favorite pastime.... The only problem
>> is that any therapist worth his/her salt would AGREE with us! I know,
>> because my Ph.D. is in Psychology. You can keep your pop psychology.
>
>How very interesting, Mikey. You've chosen to chime in only after I
>mentioned that poor lonely ED may be able to help himself by seeking out a
>mental health professional. Did they ever discuss "projection" when you were
>obtaining your degree?
>
>Have your parents and/or friends (assuming you have any) ever suggested that
>you seek mental health counseling too? Have you ever had counseling? You
>seem to be perpetually angry,

Anger is the normal response to seeing our beloved Earth harmed.
Anyone who is NOT angry about that is not normal.

and surely that can't be a pleasant way to
>live.
>
>FWIW, some of the craziest people I've ever met have had advanced degrees in
>Psychology (the field seems to attract quite a few people who are motivated
>by their own "issues").
>
>GG
>
>>
>> >>You should try to
>> >> rise above your natural sinfulness and become a Saint, although you can
>> >> never be a Great Saint like me as you are besotted with original sin.
>> >
>> >I don't fear original sin, because I don't believe in it.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> The only reason for men to consort with women sexually is for the
>> >purpose
>> >> > of
>> >> >> procreation. If you are consorting with them sexually for any other
>> >> > purpose
>> >> >> than that, then you are vile and degenerate - and may the Devil take
>> >you!
>> >
>> >Sorry...I gave up belief in Bronze Age myths long ago.
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Your lack of experience in this arena renders your judgements
>worthless.
>> >> > It's OK if you're afraid of women...but, don't try to assert that
>your
>> >> > fears
>> >> > represent some sort of higher plane of existance.
>> >>
>> >> You need to fear the Devil more than you do, that is my diagnosis of
>all
>> >> your difficulties.
>> >
>> >Once again, you're doing nothing more than projecting your own fears, ED.
>> >
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> > Why don't you answer the question?
>> >>
>> >> I am the Greatest Saint you have ever encountered in your miserable
>life.
>> >> What else do you have to know beyond that!
>> >
>> >For the same reason I don't belief in ghosts, devils, or demons, I don't
>> >believe in "Saints" either (especially fear-ridden, asexual, Usenet
>bloward
>> >"saints").
>> >
>> >GG
>> >
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >> aka
>> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:37:10 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email protected]...
>> >> [...]
>> >> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
>> >assume
>> >> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
>> >> >
>> >> > That would explain a lot.
>> >>
>> >> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
>> >known
>> >> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >> aka
>> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> >>
>> >
>> >Evasion duly noted.
>> >
>> >Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of
>any
>> >kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
>> >
>> >Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
>> >relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these
>matters.
>>
>> Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
>> Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
>> treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
>> anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
>> disgusting sport.
>
>Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.
>
>For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
>disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
>opportunity troll baiter):
>
>When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
>prostitutes excluded)?

Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.****,
where you belong.

>GG
>
>>
>> >GG
>> >
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure ********"). Want to help me recover?
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:45:19 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Anger is the normal response to seeing our beloved Earth harmed.
> Anyone who is NOT angry about that is not normal.
>
However, there is no ruling that says anyone must express their anger the
same way you do. Since many do it from other platforms and get results, it
is obvious that other opinions, actions and voices exist quite normally.
 
Ed,

Do print your post below in its entirety and present it to your
therapist on yout next visit.

Jim McNamara

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:kz1lg.429$%[email protected]...
> > "cc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> GaryG wrote:
> >> > "cc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Ed, the best thing men like us can do is to try to talk to young guys
> >> >>>every chance we get and tell them how miserable they will be if they
> >> >>>get involved with women, so they won't have to endure the suffering
> >> >>>that so many men have had to do because they hooked up with a woman.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The only thing a woman wants to do is rob a man of his individuality,
> >> >>>creativity and spontaneity and turn them into a drone who does nothing
> >> >>>but slave for their benefit.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>And if the guy shows some cojones and stands up to her, she will kick
> >> >>>him out pronto. He will lose his house and family. It is a complete
> >> >>>"no-win" situation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>When I express these truths to married men, or to men who live with a
> >> >>>woman, they get very defensive and start telling me how "wonderful'
> >> >>>their relationship is. I find this very amusing. What I like to do
> >> >>>is
> >> >>>invite myself over to their house in order to view their relationship.
> >> >>>They basically fall into two groups: (1) the guy's wife is really fat
> >> >>>and ugly and usually treats him nice because she knows she can't get
> >> >>>another man (but who wants a fat, ugly wife or girlfriend? No
> >> >>>thanks!); or (2) the guy is just SO thankful that he's getting a
> >> >>>little
> >> >>>***** (usually after years of going without) that he will rationalize
> >> >>>and justify any bad treatment his wife or girlfriend hands out, and
> >> >>>convince himself that he's found "true love".
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>You have some unhealthy
> >> >>friends. Not surprising.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Actually, he has no friends in the real world. If he's known where he
> > lives
> >> > at all, it's as the town weirdo, or the "creepy" guy.
> >> >
> >>
> >> or as a NAMBLA member.
> >
> > I kind of doubt it...in previous threads he's expressed disgust with any
> > form of human contact, especially sexual contact.
> >
> > I suspect he's completely asexual, and may in fact be a virgin. That's OK,
> > of course, except that he keeps insisting he's superior because of it, and
> > characterizing all women as stupid and inferior to his "greatness".
>
> Time now for Saint Edward the Great to weigh in and dispose of these gnats
> that flit about Him like the pests that they are.
>
> Ed Dolan is the Greatest Saint ever to reside in this land of woe known as
> America. The country is going to Hell because of the examples CC and Gary G
> set before you here on these newsgroups. They are only into their own
> assholes which they confuse with sex. We Great Saints know that sex is only
> for the purpose of procreation and not for the purpose of fun and games.
> Also, Saint Edward the Great would like to advise all and sundry that the
> anus is an exit, not an entrance. This will come as a revelation to such as
> CC and GaryG of course, but what can you expect when they have lost the
> purpose of sex.
>
> My Saintliness is beyond question. But it is not a normal Saintliness, nay,
> it is a Great Saintliness. That is because I was born without original sin,
> unlike the rest of you sinners and slobs. Not only that, but I have been
> assured by my inner voices that I will ascend into Heaven without having to
> go through the bother of dying. There I will reside at the right hand of God
> Almighty. CC and GaryG will reside in Purgatory at best, although I will
> recommend to God that he assign them to the lower depths of Hell for
> pestering such a Great Saint as Myself.
>
> Yea, you cross a Great Saint like Saint Edward the Great at the peril of
> your eternal soul. I am an unforgiving Saint and so you have lost your souls
> because you felt compelled to express the lasciviousness that is forever on
> your infinitesimally small brains. Too bad ... you can consort with the
> Devil in Hell. He will be delighted to take on any sexual proclivities you
> may care to express to Him. My only reservation is that I think you may
> actually enjoy Hell, but of course not like how I shall enjoy Heaven. We
> ethereal types simply cannot abide shitheads and assholes like CC and
> GaryG - but the Devil can!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Mike,

Your recent posts are thinly disgiuised pitiful attempts to deflect the
heat from your buddy Ed Dolan. This topic has nothing to do with
mountain bicking, so can it clown.

Jim McNamara

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> [...]
> >> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
> >assume
> >> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
> >> >
> >> > That would explain a lot.
> >>
> >> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
> >known
> >> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> >Evasion duly noted.
> >
> >Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of any
> >kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
> >
> >Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
> >relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these matters.
>
> Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
> Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
> treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
> anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
> disgusting sport.
>
> >GG
> >
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:37:10 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:07 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >>
> >> >> "GaryG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> > So, reading between the lines of your bizarre wall of words, can we
> >> >assume
> >> >> > that you are, in fact, a virgin?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That would explain a lot.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only thing you can assume is that Ed Dolan is a Great Saint and is
> >> >known
> >> >> far and wide as Saint Edward the Great!
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >> aka
> >> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Evasion duly noted.
> >> >
> >> >Given your stated attitudes towards women, and your fears of intimacy of
> >any
> >> >kind, we'll have to assume that you are, in fact, a virgin.
> >> >
> >> >Of course, this makes all of your silly pronouncements on sex and
> >> >relationships worthless...you've clearly had no experience in these
> >matters.
> >>
> >> Ed obviously knows more about REAL love than you will EVER know.
> >> Mountain bikers only know about SELF-love. It shows in the way they
> >> treat all hikers, equestrians, and other trail users, as well as
> >> anyone who happens to tell the truth about their selfish, destructive,
> >> disgusting sport.
> >
> >Hey, Mikey....looks like it's troll wars in here today.
> >
> >For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
> >disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an equal
> >opportunity troll baiter):
> >
> >When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
> >prostitutes excluded)?
>
> Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.****,
> where you belong.

You will note that ther frist post int this thread was made by you sick
buddy Ed ... dunderhead. Can't either of you two fight your own
battles???

Jim McNamara

> >GG
> >
> >>
> >> >GG
> >> >
> >> ===
> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> humans ("pure ********"). Want to help me recover?
> >>
> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> >
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
"JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

[newsgroups trimmed]

[...]
>> >For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
>> >disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an
>> >equal
>> >opportunity troll baiter):
>> >
>> >When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
>> >prostitutes excluded)?

Mike Vandeman wrote:

>> Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.****,
>> where you belong.
>
> You will note that ther frist post int this thread was made by you sick
> buddy Ed ... dunderhead. Can't either of you two fight your own
> battles???
>
> Jim McNamara

Jim will always resort to sexual innuendo when he is at a loss for thought.
It is ever the way of the scoundrel because it is so easy to do - and will
elicit the usual sniggers from the peanut gallery. It amazes me that someone
with a college education (and a Catholic one at that!) continually resorts
to the lowest common denominator.

Jim should try to elevate his thinking into the stratosphere where Ed Dolan
the Great resides. My head has been in the clouds all of my life. Matters of
the groin I leave to my inferiors like Jim who is apparently some kind of
expert on such things.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> [newsgroups trimmed]
>
> [...]
> >> >For years you too have presented yourself in these forums as a mentally
> >> >disturbed misanthrope, so I'll pose the same question for you (I'm an
> >> >equal
> >> >opportunity troll baiter):
> >> >
> >> >When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation and visits with
> >> >prostitutes excluded)?
>
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>
> >> Sorry, you need to stick to relevant subjects. Or move to alt.****,
> >> where you belong.
> >
> > You will note that the frist post in this thread was made by you sick
> > buddy Ed ... dunderhead. Can't either of you two fight your own
> > battles???
> >
> > Jim McNamara
>
> Jim will always resort to sexual innuendo when he is at a loss for thought.
> It is ever the way of the scoundrel because it is so easy to do - and will
> elicit the usual sniggers from the peanut gallery. It amazes me that someone
> with a college education (and a Catholic one at that!) continually resorts
> to the lowest common denominator.
>
> Jim should try to elevate his thinking into the stratosphere where Ed Dolan
> the Great resides. My head has been in the clouds all of my life. Matters of
> the groin I leave to my inferiors like Jim who is apparently some kind of
> expert on such things.

Ed, you dudnderhead ... what sexual innuendo???. For somone who goes
on an on about posting fromat, you can't even follow a thread. You are
attributing to me a suxual inuendo made by another poster . In
addressin Mike V (not you), I wrote ...You will note that the frist
post in this thread was made by you sick buddy Ed ... dunderhead.
Can't either of you two fight your own battles??? You are really
dense. - Jim McNamara

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
GaryG wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Not a problem for me.
> > >
> > > First, let me assure you that I'm not gay.
> > >
> > > I just don't like women anymore. Having a wife or a girlfriend
> > > involves 'WAY too many compromises, as far as I am concerned. They are
> > > just a pain in the ass, always complaining about something or other,
> > > and always quick to criticize you but think their own **** doesn't
> > > stink. The small amount of time that you spend having sex with them
> > > isn't worth it.
> > >
> > > Plus, let's face it, most women are as dumb as a brick. They never
> > > learned anything in school; they are anti-intellectual as a defense
> > > mechanism, and they are resentful of men who did well in school, went
> > > to college and graduate school, and who are successful.
> > >
> > > All women want is a man who is going to follow around behind them,
> > > cleaning up their messes like the guy in the circus parade who follows
> > > along behind the elephants. Oh, how could I have almost forgotten,
> > > they want the man to give them a lot of money. Of course they don't
> > > appreciate it because they are resentful that the man is successful and
> > > has the money to give them. And even if you do give them all the money
> > > they want, they probably won't want to have sex with you anyway.
> > >
> > > To make matters worse, even though they are dumb and overly-emotional,
> > > they want to call all the shots in the relationship! And they want to
> > > buy, buy, buy. "I feel inadequate. I'd better buy something."
> > >
> > > And if you marry one, she'll use you as a sperm donor until it becomes
> > > too much of a hassle to deal with you, and then she'll kick your ass
> > > out so you lose your family. But keep sending those support checks!
> > >
> > > Women are really evil and screwed up.
> > >
> > > In short, who needs women? I just avoid them like the plague, and have
> > > never been happier.
> >
> > Folson, you are a genius almost on my level. I have not had your
> experience
> > of women, but I KNOW everything you say about them is true. So very many
> > poor men slobs seem not to have a clue about women. It just sickens me
> that
> > men can be such fools and all-around dumbbells. Well, it all has to do
> with
> > the sex angle and nothing else. Men want sex and women want children. From
> > that springs all the misunderstandings between the sexes. Unless men also
> > want children, they are better off staying as far away from the female sex
> > as they can get.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >
>
> ED, please don't project your fears of intimacy and sexuality upon the rest
> of the male gender. You're a well-documented misanthrope and misogynist,
> with well-documented fears of intimacy (of any kind).
>
> For most normal men, physical and social intimacy with women is part of the
> definition of a life well lived. Of course, you're free to live your lonely
> life as you see fit. But insulting all women just because you fear them,
> and insulting most men who would prefer their company, just makes you look
> like even more of a weirdo and misfit.
>
> BTW - When was the last time you had sex (solo masturbation excluded)? I'm
> guessing it's been a very long time. Perhaps you've simply forgotten, or
> never learned, what a pleasant experience it can be.

Gary, et. al. - A lack of knowledge, experience or expertise has never
curtailed Ed's enthusiasm to impose his unfounded, errant "wisdom" ...
"wisdom" derived solely from myopic, twisted misconceptions. A
closet-queen, paralyzed by sexual hang-ups and shackled by self-imposed
celibacy; Ed has no credibility in this particular area of discussion.
His lack of knowledge, experience and expertise invalidate his
arguments as baseless. He condemns those who refuse to follow his
misguided path to enlightenment, but the fool himself remains
unenlightened. Ignore his random, incoherent babble. Have pity on the
misanthropic hermit for he knows not what he speaks and speaks of what
he knows not. Given to flights of fancy, Ed is a victim of his own
unrestrained imagination. He is on a delusional journey to nowhere ...
a quest and a realm of that no one is willing to share. - Jim McNamara

> GG
 
"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:19:44 -0700, "GaryG" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>>There you go again, ED...projecting your fears of intimacy. It must be
>>difficult living with such deep-seated fears of what most of us find both
>>natural, and pleasurable. Thus, it's understandable that you would attempt
>>to frame the debate as you do, and try to assert that your fears confer
>>some
>>sort of "saintliness" on you. Otherwise, you would appear to be nothing
>>more
>>than a fear-ridden weirdo (which you are).
>
> "Weirdo" is just the mountain bikers' way of trying to discredit
> honest people, without really saying anything. They are the masters of
> saying nothing. They HAVE to be, or the truth about their selfish,
> destructive, disgusting sport will leak out.
>
The only thing leaking is the grey matter from your ears....
Your OPINION is not a filter to determining truth.
 
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