preparation experience

DepartFictif said:

Ohhh... now I REALLY get it. So sorry, I was totally confused and make
things a terrible mess.. NOW I get it.
Yep, that's strange... some guys don't like riding with people who
aren't experienced.. it can be really annoying when people half wheel
you, don't ride bar to bar, or just aren't used to riding close. I've
tried it (my nasty side) riding with a bunch of cat 1s and 2s in the US
a while ago (young fit guys) it annoys ma little when people
(esspecialllly of that level) ride about 1m away from you.. so as we
were chatting I moved closer, they moved, away, I kept chatting and
slowly moved closer.. they moved away.. we ended up on totally the wron
side of the road.... silly little things like that can get annoying on
a ride...

Yeah, but to hear you tell it, it's funny as [censored], man.

Quoted message said:

maybe this guy just didn't want to think about that [censored], and
his only way of judging if people where experienced was by fitness...
Still it's sad, I think it is nice to pass on what you know to new
riders... oh well.. c'est la vie.

Oh, I guess. In fact I've said before, I can hardly blame him for not
wanting to show up and find some doofus in a straw hat and loafers and have
to ride with him (though I look like your average master fattie, I think).

Quoted message said:

Sorry about the confustion..
PS: don't take the [censored] out of the guy's spelling.. have you seen
mine?! ;-)

Oh, no, he was spelling it funny as a deeper jap in the ribs. Like a whiney
"I'm askeerd of ridin' in that thar traffic, ma" hillbilly sort of comment.
I wasn't criticising him for spelling it, just relating the tone of the
email to you. ;-)

But, but, on the other thing, why not invest 10 minutes and give the guy
some tips on how to ride closer. I mean, durn, I'm likely to be the most
enthusiastic guy this ex-pro is gonna ride with now-a-days. I ride
two-a-day rides and I try to do the nutrition right, and I'm always up for
a ride if someone calls me, I lift weights and box, and stuff. Hell off the
bike there's no way he's keeping up with me.

You'd think that would account for something. Heck even for the sadistic
types to have a new guy to torture on a climb and make fun of. Hell, I'd do
it once as long as they didn't lead me through Death Valley, or off the
face of some cliff or something, lol.

jj

Quoted message said:

Yeah, but to hear you tell it, it's funny as [censored], man.

oh well.. jolly good.

Quoted message said:

why not invest 10 minutes and give the guy

some tips on how to ride closer

Well, with these guys in question I wouldn't, because.. well.. they
know it all you know. But that's fine, they race at their level, they
have fun, so that's fine with me. It was just my own little fun and
games for my own amusement.

As for why the other guy didn't come out and maybe give some tips if
they were needed.. well... maybe he's "beyond" that. It's a shame.

that would be a longggg ride...

DepartFictif said:

that would be a longggg ride...

Oh, from your IP address it looks like you´re posting from Toulouse. Never
mind.

Jet said:

DepartFictif said:

Quoted message said:

It's probably more fun for me than you!

Those words will probably go around my head for months... sometimes the
truth maybe hurts. :-)

I never raced in the lower road categories having come from MTB racing
originally, but I have a lot of friends who race lower categories, and
I love to train with most of them. With those guys no one cares what
"level" you are, you all ride, enjoy riding and everyone gets their ass
kicked at some points. It always brings a smile to my face when a
buddy (who works, doesn't ride much, and hasn't raced for 3 years when
he was a beginner rider beats me in a sprint. (however when I get
beaten in a race with people of my "level" it drives me nuts), that's
the true beauty of cycling, the fun, everyone gets-along, have a good
time side of it.

Keep riding mate!

I'm not jaded... honnest...

Here's a question for you. If someone in your neighborhood, say, was trying
to get back into cycling, was still getting back into shape, and wanted
someone to ride with them, would you consider yourself insulted and refuse
to consider it. No comment on you, just wondering why a skilled rider would
turn down a recreational rider who was maybe 10mph slower than them (15mph
rider vs 20mph rider). Is it that embarrassing, that difficult?

Obviously I understand reluctance if the rider was a complete mismatch -
say a BMX rider, or a downhill MTB rider vs a road bike rider.

In my case the guy was a pro racer in the mid 80s and has continuously
ridden since that time (now in his mid-40s), so he's obviously highly
skilled and would easily drop me.

The students on the cycliing team are Cat-4 riders and absolutely refuse to
ride with someone unless they're turning 4watts/kg or more. Guess they
can't remember when they were on the way up, heh.

Guess it depends on how much riding time they get compared to what they need. I
can almost always go ride with someone slower, especially if I can plan it for a
recovery day. Go blast myself hard for a couple days then ride through the woods
with the nephs.

But I could see a guy who can barely get enough training hours in, begrudging
the time to go pedal around.

Ron

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

The strongest stuff I race on is medium-roast coffee and Sisu Hydrade
("pot Canadien"😉.

What, no sudafed and red bull in pot Canadian ? I'm beginning to wonder if
there isn't some truth to the claims from some of the US posters that
Canada sucks.

True story: Red Bull sent a promo team to one of our training races this
year. I was kinda thirsty, and impressed the promo girls by opening the
can with my teeth and consuming the contents more or less instantly.

But, that was the only time I have ever done Red Bull. Perhaps like
Millar, I should have kept the can around to remind me of my mistake.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jet said:

gym.gravity said:

Jet said:

What if the rider is a back-of-the pack cyclist and starts taking EPO and
steroids and uppers moves him up from last to 150th in a group of 200
riders, i.e., middle of the pack (for now)? That's also what many would say
is 'ineffective', though it affects Ryan's position not in the least.

Sure it would. Ryan would be bumped from 198th to 199th.

gym (eating nothing but grapes today, they were on sale, and are on the
verge of over-ripening) gravity.

Those grapes have soured and evidently made you a mean, mean, man. ;-D

Ryan is in the top 20 positions last time I heard he even won a race in his
Cat, though he says he could qualify to ride Masters Cat.

What's better than winning a Cat 4 race? Being a Cat 3.

This week's glorious training race results were not up to my peak
standard: I got beat in the Tuesday nighter prime sprint (points
bearing) because, basically, I lost confidence in my attack. I got beat
at the finish because I sat on the pack with two teammates in the break.
I don't feel bad about the latter event.

I race for fun. I like racing, I like winning, and I like improving.
It's pretty novel for me, because I've been racing for only two or three
years.

When I quipped about "ineffective doping," I was referring to the theory
that some amateurs might be using sanctioned herbal remedies or other
oddities. Not only is such doping not very likely to improve anyone's
results, it's not likely to harm the rider's health in any substantial
way. If such doping was the extent of drug cheating in the amateur pack
(or the pros), I would consider it essentialy benign, the equivalent of
a minor yellow-line violation. Wrong, but rarely problematic.

The reason doping bothers me is the way that effective doping does two
things to clean riders: it makes them lose and it makes them take drugs
to keep up with dopers. These issues obtain with or without drug
legalization. Most of the effective drugs are also pretty dangerous to
your health. I have a real problem with forcing riders to take hazardous
drugs to remain competitive . Riders continually take risks in their
jobs: crashes kill them, accidents cripple them, and their flimsy upper
bodies limit their dating prospects. To what extent these risks exceed
those in the job of garbage collector, I don't know. That said, drug use
has the potential to be a lot more dangerous than the inherent dangers.

The

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The strongest stuff I race on is medium-roast coffee and Sisu Hydrade
("pot Canadien"😉.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

What, no sudafed and red bull in pot Canadian ? I'm beginning to wonder if
there isn't some truth to the claims from some of the US posters that
Canada sucks.

Ryan Cousineau said:

True story: Red Bull sent a promo team to one of our training races this
year. I was kinda thirsty, and impressed the promo girls by opening the
can with my teeth and consuming the contents more or less instantly.
But, that was the only time I have ever done Red Bull. Perhaps like
Millar, I should have kept the can around to remind me of my mistake.

As a founder of livedrunk (tm) I would have thought you would be
intimately acquainted with red bull and vodka, which friends who are into
drinking tell me has become quite a craze. I'm afraid I can't confirm
this as I don't drink (alcohol) myself.

Ryan Cousineau said:

I race for fun. I like racing, I like winning, and I like improving.
It's pretty novel for me, because I've been racing for only two or three
years.

When I quipped about "ineffective doping," I was referring to the theory
that some amateurs might be using sanctioned herbal remedies or other
oddities. Not only is such doping not very likely to improve anyone's
results, it's not likely to harm the rider's health in any substantial
way. If such doping was the extent of drug cheating in the amateur pack
(or the pros), I would consider it essentialy benign, the equivalent of
a minor yellow-line violation. Wrong, but rarely problematic.

One of the 'herbal' cocktails might be the ECA stack, with a bit more of
the E and C. Both of those are banned in sufficient quantities. Not sure
what other 'herbal' remedies you might have imagined, if any - I presume
the capsican, gotu-kola, synephrine, citrus aurantium stuff, the old
dexatrim formula (caffeine plus PPA - increases plasma caffeine levels).
I've never tried that stuff - suspect it would make one nervous and/or
raise blood pressure and soforth.

Quoted message said:

The reason doping bothers me is the way that effective doping does two
things to clean riders: it makes them lose and it makes them take drugs
to keep up with dopers.

Of course. I was just tossing some ideas around for the sake of argument.
Even if you legalized it, what about riders that don't want to take any
drugs - what if some of them had -actual- talent? Yeah, it sucks.

Quoted message said:

These issues obtain with or without drug legalization. Most of the effective
drugs are also pretty dangerous to your health.

I wonder if a lot of people just don't trust the medicos, since they lied
about steroids back in the 60s with all the 'double-blind' studies that
showed 'roids had no effect and other hogwash. Same thing with the MJ scare
and the bit about it being a 'narcotic' and leading to harder drugs. It
made kids even more prone to experiment once they found out it wasn't
necessarily true.

Quoted message said:

I have a real problem with forcing riders to take hazardous
drugs to remain competitive . Riders continually take risks in their
jobs: crashes kill them, accidents cripple them, and their flimsy upper
bodies limit their dating prospects. To what extent these risks exceed
those in the job of garbage collector, I don't know. That said, drug use
has the potential to be a lot more dangerous than the inherent dangers.

Good points all. Don't think I've heard that argument before, but it's
certainly valid.

At any rate, good job doing what you do so well without all that garbage.
I've found that consistent training and good sleep and vitamins and
hydration, etc. do quite a bit - maybe not as 'instantaneous' as drugs, and
possibly more unpredictable. IOW, it's hard to time your natural peak just
right to happen on race day - at least that's what I've found - though
careful tracking of your workouts can give you an idea. Mine seem to happen
about the 15th of the month and I'm finding I have a 'super peak' where I'm
about three times as strong every 2-4 months.

Good luck,

jj

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

> The strongest stuff I race on is medium-roast coffee and Sisu Hydrade
> ("pot Canadien"😉.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

What, no sudafed and red bull in pot Canadian ? I'm beginning to wonder if
there isn't some truth to the claims from some of the US posters that
Canada sucks.

Ryan Cousineau said:

True story: Red Bull sent a promo team to one of our training races this
year. I was kinda thirsty, and impressed the promo girls by opening the
can with my teeth and consuming the contents more or less instantly.
But, that was the only time I have ever done Red Bull. Perhaps like
Millar, I should have kept the can around to remind me of my mistake.

As a founder of livedrunk (tm) I would have thought you would be
intimately acquainted with red bull and vodka, which friends who are into
drinking tell me has become quite a craze. I'm afraid I can't confirm
this as I don't drink (alcohol) myself.

I hate vodka! It nearly destroyed martinis, and it's just boring. Maybe
some of the fancy new vodkas are worth drinking, but if you're going to
drink alcohol to get drunk fast, go all the way and mix with white
overproof rum or something.

My tipple of choice is gin, mostly in G&Ts (with cheap gin) or martinis
(with the good stuff). I also drink sherry, port, beer, and wine fairly
happily. I drink whisky occasionally but not with great relish, and have
a cultural attachment to ouzo (the missus is half-Greek).

The horrible truth is that I don't drink a whole lot. Maybe one or two
drinks this week? I definitely had a very low-class gin & juice at some
point, the rest is rather hazy....

Don't follow my example: Livedrunk. Take kenacort.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

> > The strongest stuff I race on is medium-roast coffee and Sisu Hydrade
> > ("pot Canadien"😉.

Donald Munro said:

> What, no sudafed and red bull in pot Canadian ? I'm beginning to wonder if
> there isn't some truth to the claims from some of the US posters that
> Canada sucks.

Ryan Cousineau said:

True story: Red Bull sent a promo team to one of our training races this
year. I was kinda thirsty, and impressed the promo girls by opening the
can with my teeth and consuming the contents more or less instantly.
But, that was the only time I have ever done Red Bull. Perhaps like
Millar, I should have kept the can around to remind me of my mistake.

As a founder of livedrunk (tm) I would have thought you would be
intimately acquainted with red bull and vodka, which friends who are into
drinking tell me has become quite a craze. I'm afraid I can't confirm
this as I don't drink (alcohol) myself.

I hate vodka! It nearly destroyed martinis, and it's just boring. Maybe
some of the fancy new vodkas are worth drinking, but if you're going to
drink alcohol to get drunk fast, go all the way and mix with white
overproof rum or something.

My tipple of choice is gin, mostly in G&Ts (with cheap gin) or martinis
(with the good stuff). I also drink sherry, port, beer, and wine fairly
happily. I drink whisky occasionally but not with great relish, and have
a cultural attachment to ouzo (the missus is half-Greek).

The horrible truth is that I don't drink a whole lot. Maybe one or two
drinks this week? I definitely had a very low-class gin & juice at some
point, the rest is rather hazy....

Don't follow my example: Livedrunk. Take kenacort.

Texas Twister

Juice of one half a pink Texas grapefruit into a 12 oz collins glass.
One jigger gin
Fill with seltzer (not tonic water or club soda)
Two ice cubes

Do not stir.

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jet said:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:01:21 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

what other 'herbal' remedies you might have imagined, if any - I presume
the capsican, gotu-kola, synephrine, citrus aurantium stuff, the old
dexatrim formula (caffeine plus PPA - increases plasma caffeine levels).
I've never tried that stuff - suspect it would make one nervous and/or
raise blood pressure and soforth.

A friend sent me an article about the ergogenic advantages of caffeine,
and also of caffeine + ephedra. Now, ephedra has side effects like heart
palpitations, and caffeine has side effects like making you a lapsarian
LDS. One of these is more acceptable than the other.

Quoted message said:

I wonder if a lot of people just don't trust the medicos, since they lied
about steroids back in the 60s with all the 'double-blind' studies that
showed 'roids had no effect and other hogwash. Same thing with the MJ scare
and the bit about it being a 'narcotic' and leading to harder drugs. It
made kids even more prone to experiment once they found out it wasn't
necessarily true.

I doubt it. I am under the impression that the standard attitude of the
drug users is "I may die, but they'll need a big coffin."

http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_8.html

The whole article is quite interesting: what the big-boy drugs do, how
they do it, and why steroids and EPO are both scary and tempting.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have a real problem with forcing riders to take hazardous
drugs to remain competitive . Riders continually take risks in their
jobs: crashes kill them, accidents cripple them, and their flimsy upper
bodies limit their dating prospects. To what extent these risks exceed
those in the job of garbage collector, I don't know. That said, drug use
has the potential to be a lot more dangerous than the inherent dangers.

Good points all. Don't think I've heard that argument before, but it's
certainly valid.

I can't claim the idea for my own. That article I've referenced above
(Stuart Stevens' "Drug Test"😉 was very influential in forming my
arguments here.

http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_10.html

From that article:

"WADA is the logical response to an argument that gets aired from time
to time: that since cheating is impossible to eliminate, the only
recourse is to simply legalize everythingthat way, no athlete has a
hidden advantage over another, since everyone would be free to try
anything that might increase endurance.

"Like a lot of powerfully bad ideas, that one has a certain mad logic.
But it would turn every sport into a test of how much damage an athlete
was willing to risk to improve performance, and would basically force
every serious athlete to cheat and risk his or her health."

Quoted message said:

At any rate, good job doing what you do so well without all that garbage.
I've found that consistent training and good sleep and vitamins and
hydration, etc. do quite a bit - maybe not as 'instantaneous' as drugs, and
possibly more unpredictable. IOW, it's hard to time your natural peak just
right to happen on race day - at least that's what I've found - though
careful tracking of your workouts can give you an idea. Mine seem to happen
about the 15th of the month and I'm finding I have a 'super peak' where I'm
about three times as strong every 2-4 months.

Peaking is a complicated process, but the basic idea is not: train hard,
break your body down until shortly before the desired peak, and then
taper. At the week-long and year-long levels, it's about the same idea.

For my part, I think that I have had a real "peak experience" recently,
but the other aspect is that I'm finally reaping the rewards of two
years of reasonably serious training. And now, I'm spent 🙂.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jet said:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:01:21 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

At any rate, good job doing what you do so well without all that garbage.
I've found that consistent training and good sleep and vitamins and
hydration, etc. do quite a bit - maybe not as 'instantaneous' as drugs, and
possibly more unpredictable. IOW, it's hard to time your natural peak just
right to happen on race day - at least that's what I've found - though
careful tracking of your workouts can give you an idea. Mine seem to happen
about the 15th of the month and I'm finding I have a 'super peak' where I'm
about three times as strong every 2-4 months.

Peaking is a complicated process, but the basic idea is not: train hard,
break your body down until shortly before the desired peak, and then
taper. At the week-long and year-long levels, it's about the same idea.

For my part, I think that I have had a real "peak experience" recently,
but the other aspect is that I'm finally reaping the rewards of two
years of reasonably serious training. And now, I'm spent 🙂.

Care to share, either via email or something your training workouts, excel
spreadsheet of rides and times? Though I certainly couldn't do them, it
would be helpful for a variety of reasons and maybe I could approach it in
style next year?

What was the 'peak experience' thing? May have read, but can't place it.
Your first place, recently?

I think you can peak about four times a year. Again, my 'peak' is pitiful,
b/c as a cyclist I totally suck. But such as it is, I'm riding at two to
three times my ability during those times. ;-)

jj

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jet said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jet said:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:01:21 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

At any rate, good job doing what you do so well without all that garbage.
I've found that consistent training and good sleep and vitamins and
hydration, etc. do quite a bit - maybe not as 'instantaneous' as drugs, and
possibly more unpredictable. IOW, it's hard to time your natural peak just
right to happen on race day - at least that's what I've found - though
careful tracking of your workouts can give you an idea. Mine seem to happen
about the 15th of the month and I'm finding I have a 'super peak' where I'm
about three times as strong every 2-4 months.

Peaking is a complicated process, but the basic idea is not: train hard,
break your body down until shortly before the desired peak, and then
taper. At the week-long and year-long levels, it's about the same idea.

For my part, I think that I have had a real "peak experience" recently,
but the other aspect is that I'm finally reaping the rewards of two
years of reasonably serious training. And now, I'm spent 🙂.

Care to share, either via email or something your training workouts, excel
spreadsheet of rides and times? Though I certainly couldn't do them, it
would be helpful for a variety of reasons and maybe I could approach it in
style next year?

My training workouts have not been well-organized. At the start of the
year, I was doing intervals of various types, 3-hour weekend rides with
my club at 30+ km/h, and training races, plus commuting. I should have
been doing sit-ups and push-ups, but I was bad.

As I got to the meat of this year's season, I was doing very few
interval workouts, but the other stuff mostly retained.

Quoted message said:

What was the 'peak experience' thing? May have read, but can't place it.
Your first place, recently?

More or less, but it's systematic. Earlier in the season, I was
finishing mid-pack in Cat 4 races, sometimes better (12th/41 finishers
at one race:
http://trekredtruckracing.com/2005roubaixresults.html#men45).

Long and the short of it was I was just outside of placings fairly often.

Then I hit a five-week period where I entered four training crits, took
four prime sprints, and finished 4th, 3rd, and 1st in the last three
races. No times, but I was just suddenly doing a lot better, and I felt
like I understood the races.

It hasn't been all roses. In the last week, I've done badly in my last
two crits, including the provincial crit championships. Badly is
somewhat relative: I've managed to come up second in two prime sprints,
and I didn't finish well in my last crit because I had two teammates in
breaks up the road, and I wasn't going to drive a chase against them.

Peak over, methinks.

Quoted message said:

I think you can peak about four times a year. Again, my 'peak' is pitiful,
b/c as a cyclist I totally suck. But such as it is, I'm riding at two to
three times my ability during those times. ;-)

As DF pointed out in another post, achievement in cycling is relative:
it's all about how you're doing at your level. Now, some people have to
work super-hard to even be competitive in Cat 5, some are genetic freaks
who can loaf their way into the 1/2 pack (pre-cancer Lance was
notoriously a rider who trained indifferently, sometimes even raced
foolishly, and still came up with some remarkable results. It's good to
be a genetic freak).

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

DepartFictif said:

that would be a longggg ride...

Oh, from your IP address it looks like you´re posting from Toulouse.
Never
mind.

no way, Departfictif, I lived there for a summer, I lived on the Rue
Des Arts near that big
4 story supermarket - the monoprix i think it was called. nice place,
close to the beach, biarritz had a cheap hostel we'd go to on the
weekends
right on the beach.

Ryan Cousineau said:

Then I hit a five-week period where I entered four training crits, took
four prime sprints, and finished 4th, 3rd, and 1st in the last three
races. No times, but I was just suddenly doing a lot better, and I felt
like I understood the races.

It hasn't been all roses. In the last week, I've done badly in my last
two crits, including the provincial crit championships. Badly is
somewhat relative: I've managed to come up second in two prime sprints,
and I didn't finish well in my last crit because I had two teammates in
breaks up the road, and I wasn't going to drive a chase against them.

I think your DS has been feeding you grapes injected with kenacort. He
ran out of money because you didn't kick back enough of your winnings.
E]

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

It hasn't been all roses. In the last week, I've done badly in my last
two crits, including the provincial crit championships. Badly is
somewhat relative: I've managed to come up second in two prime sprints,
and I didn't finish well in my last crit because I had two teammates in
breaks up the road, and I wasn't going to drive a chase against them.

gym.gravity said:

I think your DS has been feeding you grapes injected with kenacort. He
ran out of money because you didn't kick back enough of your winnings.
E]

Perhaps there isn't enough Vitamin B-15 in his gin.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

It hasn't been all roses. In the last week, I've done badly in my last
two crits, including the provincial crit championships. Badly is
somewhat relative: I've managed to come up second in two prime sprints,
and I didn't finish well in my last crit because I had two teammates in
breaks up the road, and I wasn't going to drive a chase against them.

gym.gravity said:

I think your DS has been feeding you grapes injected with kenacort. He
ran out of money because you didn't kick back enough of your winnings.
E]

Perhaps there isn't enough Vitamin B-15 in his gin.

Too much of that livedrunk(TM) lifestyle:

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=rcousine&Year=2005
&Month=7&Day=21

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=rcousine&Year=2005
&Month=7&Day=19

Say no to kenacort,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

> It hasn't been all roses. In the last week, I've done badly in my last
> two crits, including the provincial crit championships. Badly is
> somewhat relative: I've managed to come up second in two prime sprints,
> and I didn't finish well in my last crit because I had two teammates in
> breaks up the road, and I wasn't going to drive a chase against them.

gym.gravity said:

I think your DS has been feeding you grapes injected with kenacort. He
ran out of money because you didn't kick back enough of your winnings.
E]

Perhaps there isn't enough Vitamin B-15 in his gin.

Too much of that livedrunk(TM) lifestyle:

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=rcousine&Year=2005
&Month=7&Day=21

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=rcousine&Year=2005
&Month=7&Day=19

Say no to kenacort,

I'm sure this will be lost in the Lance-o-rama, but since some people
have been interested in my results this year, here they are:

http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/wtnc_results.html

Scroll down to Cat 4.

Grains of salt: most of the top placers in the 4s have started racing 3s
this year. Klopfer, that sandbagger, locked up the Cat 4 points last
week, and then took second in this week's Cat 3 race. I'm just jealous
'cos he beat me a lot. At least three of the upgraders could have smoked
me in the points chase had they spent the entire season in 4, though in
fairness I think only Ron Klopfer's upgrade was strictly voluntary: the
rest upgraded to Cat 3 in sanctioned races, and it's really lame to race
against 4s in the training race once you've got an upgrade.

I've won two of these races this year, including tonight's race, which
was the final points-bearing race of the year (next week is the last
race, but we award the prizes for the Omnium before the racing and run
the event as a for-fun race. This year's theme is "retro," so I hope to
build up the ancient Motobecane in my back yard).

The other grain of salt is that I have not done much of significance in
sanctioned races this year: finishes in the top half and top quarter of
the Cat 4 packs, but nothing in the money. Next year's project will be
to win the big ones.

Pretty much done for the season,

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos