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  1. Lynne A said:

    Well, JC, I finally took your advice and starting lifting-only took me about
    a year after you suggested it. I'm still low carbing, so I am wondering
    about starting a TKD so I have more juice on my lifting days. What's your
    opinion of TKD, and do you have any advice or pointers? From what I've
    seen, it's 25-50 gm of carbs 30-60 min. before starting-any suggestions on
    good sources of carbs? I hate SweetTarts, and I'll be going broke trying to
    buy that many glucose tabs.

    TIA for any advice!

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    I've used TKD off and on for many years and would suggest that
    unless you're really lifting with intensity you shouldn't worry
    too much about doing something like TKD or CKD. If you're just
    starting to lift with some intensity and you can quantify that
    you're not lifting well because of being depleted, I'd suggest
    that you consider TKD over CKD at first. CKD takes a bit more
    control and effort to do and see results.

    I'd also suggest that you carb-up mostly after you train. The
    idea of TKD is to replenish for the next workout. Plus getting
    the increased raised insulin level after a workout helps with
    recovery.

    --
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  2. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're lifting as
    any
    automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods. People
    who
    do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.

    On the other hand, if controlled properly, a CKD can be useful in
    progressing down the path towards lower bodyfat, even if one is not lifting
    relatively intensely nor for relatively extended sessions.


  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I didn't mean more than one at once<G> But the thought of getting
    > to eat a lovely bagel every other day is just wonderful!

    This is messed up.

    >
    > Lynne A
    > [email hidden]

    How so?

    Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're lifting as


    any

    Quoted message said:

    automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods. People


    who

    Quoted message said:

    do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.

    Quoted message said:


    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    Geeez, Roger, just cause I enjoy the idea of a bagel doesn't mean I'm
    looking for excuses-if I was really dying for a bagel, I'd just go ahead and
    eat the damned thing! Do I have a need for a TKD? No idea! But the only
    way I'm gonna know what works best for me, to achieve the results I want, is
    to try the different variations, ya know? BTW, I AM a wuss these days, but
    it's 10 lb curls, not 2-I ain't THAT wussy. I'm working my ass off to reach
    a reasonable level of strength as quickly as possible, and if diet can help
    that, I'm going to try it. My current working routine is-every other day,
    lifting for an hour in the morning, yoga in the evening. On alternating
    days, I do Pilates 2x a day. Except on the weekends, when I only lift and
    do one Pilates session. It's a fair amount of work for someone who's been
    sedentary for the past 3 years! And if diet might make it more productive,
    hey, I'm there!

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  4. "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're lifting as
    any
    automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods. People
    who
    do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.

    On the other hand, if controlled properly, a CKD can be useful in
    progressing down the path towards lower bodyfat, even if one is not


    lifting

    Quoted message said:

    relatively intensely nor for relatively extended sessions.

    Thanks JC! I'm not looking for an excuse to pig out, just wanna try some
    different approaches and see what works for me.

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  5. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lynne A said:

    Thanks so much for the input, Mark! This is definitely an
    experiment, I want to see what difference, if any, the TKD makes.
    I'm definitely not lifting heavy yet, but it's heavy for me<LOL> I
    am increasing weight weekly though. I don't care for the protein
    bars, but whole grains are good, I can definitely go there. As far
    as DOMS, it's my life right now<G> Getting easier day by day,
    though, as is the Pilates I do on my off days.

    What kind of routine are you doing? What movements, number of sets, reps?


    3x10 on all

    Powerlifting Squats
    Dumbell curls
    deadlifts
    Barbell upright rows
    dumbell plie squats
    bench press
    crunches

    As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I said
    in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
    evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding more
    to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
    using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  6. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you go to the horse's mouth on this? Buy Lyle's keto book.

    www.bodyrecomposition.com
    (work your way to the products page)

    Get the full scoup, rather than going off half-cocked....

    It's on the list, Roger, definitely. My financial resources are limited for
    another two weeks, though, so it will have to wait till then. I do agree
    about the horse's mouth, though, and will be purchasing ASAP.

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  7. "RRzVRR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've used TKD off and on for many years and would suggest that
    unless you're really lifting with intensity you shouldn't worry
    too much about doing something like TKD or CKD. If you're just
    starting to lift with some intensity and you can quanitify that
    you're not lifitng well because of being depleted, I'd suggest
    that you consider TKD over CKD at first. CKD takes a bit more
    control and effort to do and see results.

    I'd also suggest that you carb-up mostly after you train. The
    idea of TKD is to replinish for the next workout. Plus getting
    the increased raised insulin level after a workout helps with
    recovery.

    Thanks for the input, Rudy! I don't know if I am not lifting as well as I
    could, that's the main reason for this experiment-to see if either diet
    makes a difference in performance. TKD definitely sounds like it's going to
    be easier for me to implement, so that's why I planned to start there.

    I thought the deal was that TKD was to replenish stores before the current
    workout, now I'm confused!LOL Sounds like more experimenting yet, to see if
    before or after works better for me. Ahh well, I've got all the time in the
    world to figure it out, it's not like I'm trying to get ready to
    compete<LMAO>

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  8. "Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Lynne A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I


    said

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
    evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding
    more
    to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
    using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.


    Go Krista! 😉

    Mark

    Yeah, she absolutely ROCKS!

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  9. "Lynne A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I said
    in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
    evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding
    more
    to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
    using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.


    Go Krista! 😉

    Mark

  10. "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For carb ups on a TKD I've used white bread (sometimes with ham or turkey,
    sometimes with rasberry jam, and sometimes with powdered sugar and
    cinnamon), and I've also used breakfast cereal (I like Honey Smacks or


    Corn

    Quoted message said:

    Pops) with skim milk. These seem to have a fairly fast effect (as you can
    see, I'm not too worried about a little bit of fructose, and I like to


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a little protein added sometimes also). I would stay away from anything
    with whole grains for what should be obvious reasons. That being said, I
    really prefer the CKD over the TKD. I get a lot more mileage out of


    carbing

    Quoted message said:

    up for a whole day once a week, than I do with the little bits and pieces.
    This may be because of the way I train and/or the way I follow my diet, I
    couldn't really say. It just seems that with a TKD, I never really get


    the

    Quoted message said:

    full benefit of being carbed up, and I also never get to the point of


    being

    Quoted message said:

    completed depleted. In your shoes, I would try them both out for a while


    and

    Quoted message said:

    see how they fit.

    --


    Thanks for all the information, JC! Bread w/topping I could manage, I'm not
    sure I could deal with such sweet cereal anymore, though. Breads are still
    a pleasure, but the sweet stuff, blech! I'll have to look around, maybe I
    can find something with less sugar, but a total count that's in the right
    range.

    I did recall that you were doing CKD, but to be honest, I found the
    information a bit more confusing! Would you be willing to show a sample
    week's menu when you have time? I do intend to try both and see if one or
    the other works better for me-how long do you suggest I try them to really
    get a good feel for the results?

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  11. Lynne A said:

    "RRzVRR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've used TKD off and on for many years and would suggest that
    unless you're really lifting with intensity you shouldn't worry
    too much about doing something like TKD or CKD. If you're just
    starting to lift with some intensity and you can quanitify that
    you're not lifitng well because of being depleted, I'd suggest
    that you consider TKD over CKD at first. CKD takes a bit more
    control and effort to do and see results.

    I'd also suggest that you carb-up mostly after you train. The
    idea of TKD is to replinish for the next workout. Plus getting
    the increased raised insulin level after a workout helps with
    recovery.

    Thanks for the input, Rudy! I don't know if I am not lifting as well
    as I could, that's the main reason for this experiment-to see if
    either diet makes a difference in performance. TKD definitely sounds
    like it's going to be easier for me to implement, so that's why I
    planned to start there.

    I thought the deal was that TKD was to replenish stores before the
    current workout, now I'm confused!LOL Sounds like more experimenting
    yet, to see if before or after works better for me. Ahh well, I've
    got all the time in the world to figure it out, it's not like I'm
    trying to get ready to compete<LMAO>

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    Lynne - when you get to the point where you need a TKD or a CKD, you'll know
    it quickly. Your body will let you know and there'll be little guessing.

    The TKD after does replenish..and gets you ready for the next session.

  12. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lynne - when you get to the point where you need a TKD or a CKD, you'll


    know

    Quoted message said:

    it quickly. Your body will let you know and there'll be little guessing.

    The TKD after does replenish..and gets you ready for the next session.

    Fair enough Roger-muscle fatigue, total exhaustion at the end of the
    workout? I really don't know what to look for since I'm new to lifting and
    have been doing low carb long term-if I had lifted BEFORE low carb, then I
    would have something to compare against, you know? Does that make ANY sense
    at all?LOL

    Hmm, after, huh? I guess I'll have to make myself, I'm not usually
    interested in food after my workouts. Actually, I'm not very interested in
    food at all lately-except for artichokes<LOL> Oh well, beats only wanting
    candy bars.

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  13. Lynne A said:

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lynne - when you get to the point where you need a TKD or a CKD,
    you'll


    know

    Quoted message said:

    it quickly. Your body will let you know and there'll be little
    guessing.

    The TKD after does replenish..and gets you ready for the next
    session.

    Fair enough Roger-muscle fatigue, total exhaustion at the end of the
    workout? I really don't know what to look for since I'm new to
    lifting and have been doing low carb long term-if I had lifted BEFORE
    low carb, then I would have something to compare against, you know?
    Does that make ANY sense at all?LOL

    I'd suggest you not over do it in the beginning...avoid muscle fatigue and
    total exhaustion at the end of every workout. Go easy for a while and get
    in the habit of consistently working out and learning proper form.

    How long does it take you to recover?

    Quoted message said:


    Hmm, after, huh? I guess I'll have to make myself, I'm not usually
    interested in food after my workouts. Actually, I'm not very
    interested in food at all lately-except for artichokes<LOL> Oh well,
    beats only wanting candy bars.

    So after you workouts you resume normal LC eating after a period of time,
    right? How do you feel before doing your pilates?

  14. Lynne A said:

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lynne A said:

    Thanks so much for the input, Mark! This is definitely an
    experiment, I want to see what difference, if any, the TKD makes.
    I'm definitely not lifting heavy yet, but it's heavy for me<LOL> I
    am increasing weight weekly though. I don't care for the protein
    bars, but whole grains are good, I can definitely go there. As far
    as DOMS, it's my life right now<G> Getting easier day by day,
    though, as is the Pilates I do on my off days.

    What kind of routine are you doing? What movements, number of sets,
    reps?


    3x10 on all

    Powerlifting Squats
    Dumbell curls
    deadlifts
    Barbell upright rows
    dumbell plie squats
    bench press
    crunches

    As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I
    said in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and
    yoga in the evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I
    will be adding more to the routine as soon as my bench gets here,
    it's on order ATM, and I'm using an old coffee table, as per
    Stumptious until it gets here.

    So, do you ever feel as if you can't do your routine as it exists now?

  15. Lynne A said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > I didn't mean more than one at once<G> But the thought of
    > > getting to eat a lovely bagel every other day is just wonderful!
    >
    > This is messed up.
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Lynne A
    > > [email hidden]
    >
    >

    How so?

    Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're
    lifting as


    any

    Quoted message said:

    automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods.
    People


    who

    Quoted message said:

    do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.

    Quoted message said:


    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    Geeez, Roger, just cause I enjoy the idea of a bagel doesn't mean I'm
    looking for excuses-if I was really dying for a bagel, I'd just go
    ahead and eat the damned thing! Do I have a need for a TKD? No
    idea! But the only way I'm gonna know what works best for me, to
    achieve the results I want, is to try the different variations, ya
    know?

    Sure. But do you have any reason to think that what you're doing now isn't
    working or isn't best for you?

    BTW, I AM a wuss these days, but it's 10 lb curls, not 2-I

    Quoted message said:

    ain't THAT wussy. I'm working my ass off to reach a reasonable level
    of strength as quickly as possible, and if diet can help that, I'm
    going to try it. My current working routine is-every other day,
    lifting for an hour in the morning, yoga in the evening. On
    alternating days, I do Pilates 2x a day. Except on the weekends,
    when I only lift and do one Pilates session. It's a fair amount of
    work for someone who's been sedentary for the past 3 years! And if
    diet might make it more productive, hey, I'm there!

    It seems as if you might burn out. Playing with the carb ups can be a
    slippery slope and, IMO, doing so without a clear reason is not a good idea.
    You're a beginner lifter and you're not doing any cardio...and I don't think
    you really need carb up yet.

    Also, there is the basic notion of simply increasing your daily carb level
    flat out to support your greater activity level.

    Quoted message said:


    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  16. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What kind of routine are you doing? What movements, number of sets,
    reps?


    3x10 on all

    Powerlifting Squats
    Dumbell curls
    deadlifts
    Barbell upright rows
    dumbell plie squats
    bench press
    crunches

    As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I
    said in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and
    yoga in the evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I
    will be adding more to the routine as soon as my bench gets here,
    it's on order ATM, and I'm using an old coffee table, as per
    Stumptious until it gets here.

    So, do you ever feel as if you can't do your routine as it exists now?

    Sometimes, yes, but I generally just bull my way through it. The thing I'm
    wondering is, am I having a hard time sometimes because I'm running out of
    juice, or because I'm a total candy-ass at this point? Thus, the
    experimenting.

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  17. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'd suggest you not over do it in the beginning...avoid muscle fatigue and
    total exhaustion at the end of every workout. Go easy for a while and get
    in the habit of consistently working out and learning proper form.

    How long does it take you to recover?

    The problem is, I'm in such bad shape that total exhaustion is inevitable
    with any kind of decent workout. I am working on good form, but it's
    difficult w/o someone experienced there to correct me. I do work out
    consistently, every day, 7 days a week. I will eventually take a rest day
    every week, but for right now I am more concerned with establishing a solid
    routine-I'm afraid a day off may lead to two, etc., etc, blah, blah, blah.

    Recovery time is, hmm, I'd say around 20-30 min? I really don't know
    though, hadn't paid much attention to it to be honest.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Hmm, after, huh? I guess I'll have to make myself, I'm not usually
    interested in food after my workouts. Actually, I'm not very
    interested in food at all lately-except for artichokes<LOL> Oh well,
    beats only wanting candy bars.

    So after you workouts you resume normal LC eating after a period of time,
    right? How do you feel before doing your pilates?

    Eventually, yeah, but it's usually much later these days-I just don't have a
    lot of appetite ATM. I tend to eat before my workout, brunch-ish time, I
    guess, and then I don't generally eat again until dinner time. Once in a
    while I'll have a snack mid-afternoon, but for the most part I'm not hungry
    again until 6-7 pm.

    I feel fine before doing my Pilates, it's during and after that's the
    killer<LOL> My DD and I jokingly refer to it as *20 minutes from HELL*

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:


  18. Quoted message said:

    Sure. But do you have any reason to think that what you're doing now


    isn't

    Quoted message said:

    working or isn't best for you?

    The fact that it's totally kicking my ass?LOL

    Quoted message said:

    It seems as if you might burn out. Playing with the carb ups can be a
    slippery slope and, IMO, doing so without a clear reason is not a good


    idea.

    Quoted message said:

    You're a beginner lifter and you're not doing any cardio...and I don't


    think

    Quoted message said:

    you really need carb up yet.

    Burnout is a very real concern of mine! But so is establishing some serious
    habits to improve my health-it's a difficult situation. I'm kind of afraid
    to stop, that I may NEVER start again. I did decide when I added the second
    workouts, that I would cut them out if I started to feel overworked too
    badly. As far as cardio, have you ever done Pilates??LOL My heartrate is
    up there the whole time. I will be adding the elliptical instead of the
    yoga at some point though-right now flexibility and stamina are my big
    concerns-I'm stiff as a board from such a long time of inactivity.

    I definitely respect your opinions on carbups potentially being a dangerous
    thing, but I've been low carbing for a while now, and feel *fairly*
    confident in my ability to stick with my diet. If I do decide to try a TKD
    or CKD, I will definitely keep in mind though, that it's risky and that I
    need to really keep a tight rein on things.

    Quoted message said:


    Also, there is the basic notion of simply increasing your daily carb level
    flat out to support your greater activity level.

    Definitely another possibility, if I can achieve a balance between higher
    carbs and fat loss. Basically I'm just considering all my options and
    trying to decide what will work best for me. It's all one great big science
    experiment, no?

    Lynne A
    [email hidden]

  19. "Lynne A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For carb ups on a TKD I've used white bread (sometimes with ham or
    turkey,
    sometimes with rasberry jam, and sometimes with powdered sugar and
    cinnamon), and I've also used breakfast cereal (I like Honey Smacks or


    Corn

    Quoted message said:

    Pops) with skim milk. These seem to have a fairly fast effect (as you can
    see, I'm not too worried about a little bit of fructose, and I like to


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a little protein added sometimes also). I would stay away from anything
    with whole grains for what should be obvious reasons. That being said, I
    really prefer the CKD over the TKD. I get a lot more mileage out of


    carbing

    Quoted message said:

    up for a whole day once a week, than I do with the little bits and
    pieces.
    This may be because of the way I train and/or the way I follow my diet, I
    couldn't really say. It just seems that with a TKD, I never really get


    the

    Quoted message said:

    full benefit of being carbed up, and I also never get to the point of


    being

    Quoted message said:

    completed depleted. In your shoes, I would try them both out for a while


    and

    Quoted message said:

    see how they fit.

    --


    Thanks for all the information, JC! Bread w/topping I could manage, I'm
    not
    sure I could deal with such sweet cereal anymore, though. Breads are
    still
    a pleasure, but the sweet stuff, blech! I'll have to look around, maybe I
    can find something with less sugar, but a total count that's in the right
    range.

    The whole point is that it's supposed to be sweet. The sweeter the better
    and the faster the result. That's one of the reasons that you don't take in
    any fat at this point, because that would slow down digestion.

    Quoted message said:

    I did recall that you were doing CKD, but to be honest, I found the
    information a bit more confusing! Would you be willing to show a sample
    week's menu when you have time?

    Right now, I'm doing a whole-body workout on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and
    Saturdays. I'm also doing a fair amount of walking on the other days.
    Saturday is usually my best workout, and Thursday I usually have the least
    energy. The diet: Sunday I usually eat the most calories for the week and
    it's strictly low carb. Mostly I have eggs and cheese and perhaps some
    bacon or sausage for a late breakfast, and then I'll have steak or some
    salmon for an early evening meal. I might also snack on some mixed nuts. On
    Monday I only eat a fair sized dinner after work. Maybe some pork chops or
    some steak. Sunflower seeds for dessert (most days of the week). Tuesday is
    like Monday. Wednesday and Thursday I reduce my calories and only eat maybe
    half of what I do on Monday. Usually more fat and less protein. Thursday is
    when I really get down to the minimum. Friday I might have lunch or I might
    not, but it'll be low fat and high carbs for dinner and maybe lunch.
    Saturday I usually eat three low fat and high carb meals. Most of the carbs
    I take in on Friday and Saturday and fairly simple rather than complex.

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    I do intend to try both and see if one or
    the other works better for me-how long do you suggest I try them to really
    get a good feel for the results?

    I would say a month would be the minimum, just to get some type of rhythm
    going. You could spend several weeks just seeing how different calorie
    levels make you feel and how they affect your bodyfat levels and weight.
    Did I mention that you can gain several pounds of water and glycogen weight
    over the weekend that you'll subsequently lose during the week? It can get
    quite interesting trying to keep track of everything. When in doubt though,
    eat less and exercise more. ;-)

  20. Lynne A said:
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    Sure. But do you have any reason to think that what you're doing now

    isn't

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    working or isn't best for you?

    The fact that it's totally kicking my ass?LOL

    You just started...give it time....it sounds as if you're doing too much
    for a newbie...

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    It seems as if you might burn out. Playing with the carb ups can be a
    slippery slope and, IMO, doing so without a clear reason is not a good

    idea.

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    You're a beginner lifter and you're not doing any cardio...and I don't

    think

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    you really need carb up yet.

    Burnout is a very real concern of mine! But so is establishing some serious
    habits to improve my health-it's a difficult situation. I'm kind of afraid
    to stop, that I may NEVER start again.

    A real committment will prevent that....that's something I never worry
    about...

    New habits come with easing into the changes, not being smacked silly by
    them! 🙂

    I did decide when I added the second

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    workouts, that I would cut them out if I started to feel overworked too
    badly.

    Do you?

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    As far as cardio, have you ever done Pilates??LOL

    No...I have not...

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    My heartrate is
    up there the whole time.

    Interesting...I had not heard that Pilates was a cardio workout. I tried
    it for about 10 minutes...gave the DVD away.

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    I will be adding the elliptical instead of the
    yoga at some point though-right now flexibility and stamina are my big
    concerns-I'm stiff as a board from such a long time of inactivity.

    I say go slowly and work up over time. Don't go too hard too quickly.

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    I definitely respect your opinions on carbups potentially being a dangerous
    thing, but I've been low carbing for a while now, and feel *fairly*
    confident in my ability to stick with my diet.

    But, have you done a carb up?

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    If I do decide to try a TKD
    or CKD, I will definitely keep in mind though, that it's risky and that I
    need to really keep a tight rein on things.

    The TKDs are easier to deal with...the water weight gain after a CKD may
    bother you...AND, if you're diabetic or IR, there can be other issues to
    consider..

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    Also, there is the basic notion of simply increasing your daily carb level
    flat out to support your greater activity level.

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    Definitely another possibility, if I can achieve a balance between higher
    carbs and fat loss. Basically I'm just considering all my options and
    trying to decide what will work best for me. It's all one great big science
    experiment, no?

    That is so!

    Go slowly. You'll get there.

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