I suspect that she is extremely frustrated on a daily basis by the husband's limitations and uses the dinner party as an outlet for her culinary creativity. As long as the husband doesn't get anything obviously "better" than the guests (eg. steak while the others get burgers) -which would be mean- I understand why she does it. However, for dessert it would have been nice to offer everyone a choice of pie or cake. Not only would it reduce the envy factor of people who'd rather have pie, but the husband's problem would be downplayed.
Maybe she's trying to embarass the husband by making a big deal of his pickiness in front of their friends, so he'll stop being so picky.
Karen
That would be a horrible thing to do. If she loves him, she'd know him and not try to "front" him in front of other people.
Sorry, but I'm not going to like coursely chopped onions just because someone sets a plate of them in front of me. I hate raw vegetables. So setting a salad in front of me isn't going to make me like it. I'll just push it aside and say "no thank you". In restaurants, I ask if I can substitute a cup of soup vs. salad. I'm not embarrassed. I simply don't like chomping on lettuce.
You cannot change a person's tastes by embarrassing them. And her husband *should* have been embarrassed by her mentioning his pie vs. their cake at all. And she should have offered both to the guests, simply to be gracious.
The plate ends up decorated with artfully distributed tomato dits. Or who, when presented with a chop, dissect it with the skill of a surgeon, leaving a large pile of unacceptable pieces and a 1" fillet.
Our neighbour is like that. To hear the guy talk you would think that he liked everything under the sun, but when you see him eat it turns out that he avoids of lot of foods. We had them over for a prime rib roast with Yorkshire pudding. He had never had yorkies before and didn't want to try them. Of course, they are basically a vehicle for gravy, and he doesn't eat gravy. I realize that there are people who love the fat and those who trim it off, but this guy cut off the fat, and closet an inch of meat next to the fat.
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I suspect that she is extremely frustrated on a daily basis by the husband's limitations and uses the dinner party as an outlet for her culinary creativity. As long as the husband doesn't get anything obviously "better" than the guests (eg. steak while the others get burgers) -which would be mean- I understand why she does it. However, for dessert it would have been nice to offer everyone a choice of pie or cake. Not only would it reduce the envy factor of people who'd rather have pie, but the husband's problem would be downplayed.
Maybe she's trying to embarass the husband by making a big deal of his pickiness in front of their friends, so he'll stop being so picky.
Karen
That would be a horrible thing to do. If she loves him, she'd know him and not try to "front" him in front of other people.
Sorry, but I'm not going to like coursely chopped onions just because someone sets a plate of them in front of me. I hate raw vegetables. So setting a salad in front of me isn't going to make me like it. I'll just push it aside and say "no thank you". In restaurants, I ask if I can substitute a cup of soup vs. salad. I'm not embarrassed. I simply don't like chomping on lettuce.
You cannot change a person's tastes by embarrassing them. And her husband *should* have been embarrassed by her mentioning his pie vs. their cake at all. And she should have offered both to the guests, simply to be gracious.
From what you are saying, they put a plate of food in front of you??
I never plate up meals in advance. All the food is on the table in dishes and everyone takes what they want.
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If you think you hate brussels sprouts, try baking them au gratin style. Off the top of my head: steam them about 10 minutes and let them cool. Slice them in half lengthwise. Prepare a medium white sauce with butter, salt, pepper and milk. Pour this over the sprouts in a shallow baking pan. Sprinkle seasoned breadcrumbs over the top. Bake at 400F about 25 minutes. YUM!
We enjoy them just steamed and with plenty of butter too🙂
Excessively catering to her husband's peccadillos was her way of indirectly degrading him in front of everybody else, whether he realized it or not.
Maybe but not necessarily. I know of women, usually of a certain generation, who put their husbands first in all cases. Go to an extended family picnic and they, knowing what their husbands want, elbow their way to get the first/best steaks for him while he's talking with the other guys, and delivers the plate to him. She's not being passive-aggressive; it's the "misplaced mommy" role. She's providing for a giant baby.
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I think you should always ask people you don't know well about any medical or religious restrictions. But as for the true "picky" eater, whatever you do is wrong.
What even weirder is people who are picky eaters for someone else. I know a few people like that. I'll ask whether they like something and the answer will be, "I'm fine with it, but DH won't eat it." But then later, I see the DH eating that same thing, and there's no problem.
I know two people, offhand, who do that.
The weirdness might be with DH. I know people who claim to like something at some time, then won't eat it later. Perhaps they lose interest or were just taken by the novelty. Or in reverse, forget that they said they didn't care for something.
Then there are teenagers who won't like something made at home but will eat it at restaurant or if made by a friend's "cool" mother. Or claim that they eat peas but if you cook them they won't touch them. Won't go to a Thai restaurant with the family but will with their friends. That sort of thing.
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Curly Sue wrote: > I suspect that she is extremely frustrated on a daily basis by the > husband's limitations and uses the dinner party as an outlet for > her culinary creativity. As long as the husband doesn't get > anything obviously "better" than the guests (eg. steak while the > others get burgers) -which would be mean- I understand why she > does it. > However, for dessert it would have been nice to offer everyone a > choice of pie or cake. Not only would it reduce the envy factor of > people who'd rather have pie, but the husband's problem would be > downplayed.
Maybe she's trying to embarass the husband by making a big deal of his pickiness in front of their friends, so he'll stop being so picky.
Karen
That would be a horrible thing to do. If she loves him, she'd know him and not try to "front" him in front of other people.
Sorry, but I'm not going to like coursely chopped onions just because someone sets a plate of them in front of me. I hate raw vegetables. So setting a salad in front of me isn't going to make me like it. I'll just push it aside and say "no thank you". In restaurants, I ask if I can substitute a cup of soup vs. salad. I'm not embarrassed. I simply don't like chomping on lettuce.
You cannot change a person's tastes by embarrassing them. And her husband *should* have been embarrassed by her mentioning his pie vs. their cake at all. And she should have offered both to the guests, simply to be gracious.
From what you are saying, they put a plate of food in front of you??
I was commenting on the pie set in front of the husband with the woman explaining to everyone her husband doesn't like chocolate cake. There was no call for her to do that. Probably was embarrassing to him. "Oh, he needs a special dessert because he's picky" sort of thing.
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I never plate up meals in advance. All the food is on the table in dishes and everyone takes what they want.
I've only been met with one situation where someone set something in front of me without asking me, and that was a salad. Normally the salad bowl is passed around and I'm able to politely decline and pass it along. In this case it was practically shoved in front of me and I had to explain I don't care for salad. Which led to a whole discussion about why I don't care for raw vegetables. Hell, I don't know! I just don't like them, okay? I'll eat practically any vegetable if it's cooked, I just can't stand the texture of raw vegetables. I felt like I was under a microscope.
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That is how I raised my children and when they visit it is the same! I cook, they eat it and are very happy to do so🙂
Pity the kid who comes here, doesn't like what is offered and expects me to prepare something special.
Too bad such ignorance exists. It has long been known that children have different taste systems than adults. Tastes are different and more intense. Ignoring this fact is either meanness, stupidity, or laziness - or some combination thereof.
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I've only been met with one situation where someone set something in front of me without asking me, and that was a salad. Normally the salad bowl is passed around and I'm able to politely decline and pass it along. In this case it was practically shoved in front of me and I had to explain I don't care for salad. Which led to a whole discussion about why I don't care for raw vegetables. Hell, I don't know! I just don't like them, okay? I'll eat practically any vegetable if it's cooked, I just can't stand the texture of raw vegetables. I felt like I was under a microscope.
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I've only been met with one situation where someone set something in front of me without asking me, and that was a salad. Normally the salad bowl is passed around and I'm able to politely decline and pass it along. In this case it was practically shoved in front of me and I had to explain I don't care for salad. Which led to a whole discussion about why I don't care for raw vegetables. Hell, I don't know! I just don't like them, okay? I'll eat practically any vegetable if it's cooked, I just can't stand the texture of raw vegetables. I felt like I was under a microscope.
Y'know, eating something that you don't like will not kill you. I continue to be amazed at how many whiners expect the entire world to cater to their whims. Grow up - you are not the center of the universe.
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That is how I raised my children and when they visit it is the same! I cook, they eat it and are very happy to do so🙂
Pity the kid who comes here, doesn't like what is offered and expects me to prepare something special.
Too bad such ignorance exists. It has long been known that children have different taste systems than adults. Tastes are different and more intense. Ignoring this fact is either meanness, stupidity, or laziness - or some combination thereof.
Are you serious???? My children have grown up enjoying all the food I have cooked and are healthy and happy adults. I never had any problems over their meals because no one ever suggested they might only eat something else🙂 My grandson also eats everthing I cook with no arguments🙂) Sorry Peter.. but whoever told you that stuff is talking [censored]🙂) I cook good wholesome food with no processed rubbish and my family have thrived on it.
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I've only been met with one situation where someone set something in front of me without asking me, and that was a salad. Normally the salad bowl is passed around and I'm able to politely decline and pass it along. In this case it was practically shoved in front of me and I had to explain I don't care for salad. Which led to a whole discussion about why I don't care for raw vegetables. Hell, I don't know! I just don't like them, okay? I'll eat practically any vegetable if it's cooked, I just can't stand the texture of raw vegetables. I felt like I was under a microscope.
Y'know, eating something that you don't like will not kill you. I continue to be amazed at how many whiners expect the entire world to cater to their whims. Grow up - you are not the center of the universe.
Why does anyone expect anyone else to eat anything? Food should be offered, not forced! I have always served food in dishes and the diners are able to decide what to take, my children included. Why would you expect anyone to eat anything they do not like!!!! I wonder if you have issues with control?
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> > That is how I raised my children and when they visit it is the > same! I cook, they eat it and are very happy to do so🙂
Pity the kid who comes here, doesn't like what is offered and expects me to prepare something special.
Too bad such ignorance exists. It has long been known that children have different taste systems than adults. Tastes are different and more intense. Ignoring this fact is either meanness, stupidity, or laziness - or some combination thereof.
Are you serious???? My children have grown up enjoying all the food I have cooked and are healthy and happy adults. I never had any problems over their meals because no one ever suggested they might only eat something else🙂 My grandson also eats everthing I cook with no arguments🙂) Sorry Peter.. but whoever told you that stuff is talking [censored]🙂) I cook good wholesome food with no processed rubbish and my family have thrived on it.
Hear hear! My parents never cooked special meals for us as kids and there is no reason to think any child needs a special meal. If Mom made corned beef & cabbage, that's what we ate. We didn't get chicken McNuggets or anything else. We ate what was served to us. No, it wasn't shoved down our throats, but we never really questioned it, either. It was lunch or it was dinner, period. No big deal. I was a picky child when it came to raw vegetables but other than that I ate everything that was put in front of me. I never even complained about brussels sprouts or lima beans 😄
Then we moved to Bangkok. You want to talk about a new food experience? I LOVE dried squid!
Pity the kid who comes here, doesn't like what is offered and expects me to prepare something special.
Too bad such ignorance exists. It has long been known that children have different taste systems than adults. Tastes are different and more intense. Ignoring this fact is either meanness, stupidity, or laziness - or some combination thereof.
Oh baloney. It's not like I go out of my way to make something the kid doesn't like just so that I can pull a power trip on him. I cook at home. This is not a smorgasbord or a restaurant with unlimited choices. Most of my sons friends and my nieces and nephews love eating here. The only two kids I can think of who had trouble were the kid down the street who liked KFC chicken or hot dogs, and nothing else, and my nephew who is impossible to please. He has whined at Christmas dinners when there was a wide range of food and desserts,and he is now over 30, more than old enough to know better. Sorry if my refusal to cater to unreasonably picky tastes offends you, but I find people like that to be selfish, immature pains in the ass and I would rather not have to deal with them.
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I've only been met with one situation where someone set something in front of me without asking me, and that was a salad. Normally the salad bowl is passed around and I'm able to politely decline and pass it along. In this case it was practically shoved in front of me and I had to explain I don't care for salad. Which led to a whole discussion about why I don't care for raw vegetables. Hell, I don't know! I just don't like them, okay? I'll eat practically any vegetable if it's cooked, I just can't stand the texture of raw vegetables. I felt like I was under a microscope.
Y'know, eating something that you don't like will not kill you. I continue to be amazed at how many whiners expect the entire world to cater to their whims. Grow up - you are not the center of the universe.
Of course I'm not the center of the universe, I just play it on TV 🙂 I shouldn't feel I have to eat something if I don't want to. For all you know it might make me barf on your highly polished shoes. We wouldn't want that, would we? 😄 Simply offer me the choice and when I say politely, no thank you, accept it and move on. Similarly, I don't eat dessert. I don't care for sweets. So don't try to force it on me and make me eat it. That's just rude.
I'm not talking about someone inviting me to dinner and serving beef when I'd rather eat chicken. I'm not talking about someone serving me chicken but I'm a vegetarian (which I'm not). I'm talking about a simple salad, here. I don't want salad, is that okay with you?
I know of women, usually of a certain generation, who put their husbands first in all cases. Go to an extended family picnic and they, knowing what their husbands want, elbow their way to get the first/best steaks for him while he's talking with the other guys, and delivers the plate to him. She's not being passive-aggressive; it's the "misplaced mommy" role. She's providing for a giant baby.
Wait a sec...I think that was all specified in my marriage vows.
