Lance - To Do Ironman 2006?



I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.

Ken


"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I will call ******** on this.
>
> There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
> will return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>
> Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a rumour going round that Lance Armstrong is planning to do the
>> Hawaiian Ironman in 2006. Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Roadie.
>>
>
>
 
I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.

Ken


"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I will call ******** on this.
>
> There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
> will return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>
> Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a rumour going round that Lance Armstrong is planning to do the
>> Hawaiian Ironman in 2006. Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Roadie.
>>
>
>
 
I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.

Ken


"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I will call ******** on this.
>
> There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
> will return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>
> Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a rumour going round that Lance Armstrong is planning to do the
>> Hawaiian Ironman in 2006. Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Roadie.
>>
>
>
 
I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.

Ken


"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I will call ******** on this.
>
> There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
> will return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>
> Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a rumour going round that Lance Armstrong is planning to do the
>> Hawaiian Ironman in 2006. Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Roadie.
>>
>
>
 
I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.

Ken


"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I will call ******** on this.
>
> There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
> will return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>
> Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>
>
> "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a rumour going round that Lance Armstrong is planning to do the
>> Hawaiian Ironman in 2006. Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> Roadie.
>>
>
>
 
"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I will call ******** on this.
>
>There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA will
>return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>

Bring notoriety? <chuckle> Sorry, but the IM stands on its own with
or without Lance. (Notice which race is on network and which is on
OLN.)

The conversations I've seen are simply an honest fascination with the
idea. Would he be a strong enough runner to hold what lead he might
have in T2?

>Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>

I agree, but apparently not for the same reasons.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
 
"IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
>money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
>not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.
>
>Ken
>

Speculating again, but I hope he'll get involved in some organized
rides/races to support the Armstrong Foundation. Ride in the back
with the gang, shoot the breeze, etc.

If he joined in a leg or two in one of the various across state rides,
I'd be there.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
 
Mike Tennent wrote:

> "IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I tend to believe you are right. He certainly would not do it for the
>>money. He really doesn't have anything to prove and his ego would probably
>>not allow it. But he did mention the possibility of Triathlon to stay fit.
>>
>>Ken
>>
>
>
> Speculating again, but I hope he'll get involved in some organized
> rides/races to support the Armstrong Foundation. Ride in the back
> with the gang, shoot the breeze, etc.
>
> If he joined in a leg or two in one of the various across state rides,
> I'd be there.
>
> Mike Tennent
> "IronPenguin"
>

Lance was introduced as the promising high school triathlete from Texas
at my second ever triathlon, Hilton Head, 1988.

Anyone watch the spoof on him by Jon Stewart on the the Daily Show? I
started being amused and then I couldn't keep up the smile.

Ruth Kazez
 
"Mike Tennent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I will call ******** on this.
>>
>>There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
>>will
>>return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>>
>
> Bring notoriety? <chuckle> Sorry, but the IM stands on its own with
> or without Lance. (Notice which race is on network and which is on
> OLN.)

The Ironman gets an edited "best of" coverage on NBC, just like TdF gets on
CBS. Triathlon is even more of a niche sport than cycling, IMHO.
 
I can't see him doing the Ironman in 2006. If he were to do it, he'd
want to win it (which he's certainly capable of doing). But that would
mean he'd have to train just as hard as he did for the Tour de France,
and he allegedly wants to spend time with his kids (did you catch the
interview with his Mom on OLN where his mom said that he was looking
forward to taking his kids to SWIM MEETS?). I think maybe, in a year
or two, he just might get the itch to again conquer the world. The
Ironman is a sufficiently high profile event that there would be a lot
of anticipation and a huge viewership, were he to announce that he was
planning on doing it. Were he to win, his legend would become even
more stratospheric. I truly do think that the guy has a future as a
politician, as many have suggested.
 
"Mike Tennent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I will call ******** on this.
>>
>>There have been tri-geeks shooting their wads over this fantasy that LA
>>will
>>return to triathlon to bring some notoriety to the sport.
>>
>
> Bring notoriety? <chuckle> Sorry, but the IM stands on its own with
> or without Lance. (Notice which race is on network and which is on
> OLN.)

Does the Ironman still buy the TV time from NBC and broadcast it several
months AFTER the event and still only show snippets of the actual event
while showing feel good stories? Give me the OLN Tour coverage of the
actual race anyday than that maudlin, phony sentimental BS called the
Ironman telecast.
Do people around the water cooler talk about the Ironman like they do
the Tour although the Ironman is far easier to understand?
Can a person on the street recognize Hunter Kemper or Andy Potts' names?



>
> The conversations I've seen are simply an honest fascination with the
> idea. Would he be a strong enough runner to hold what lead he might
> have in T2?
>
>>Ain't gonna happen is what I say.
>>
>
> I agree, but apparently not for the same reasons.
>
> Mike Tennent
> "IronPenguin"
>
 
>From Ruth:

>>Anyone watch the spoof on him by Jon Stewart on the the Daily Show? I
started being amused and then I couldn't keep up the smile. <<

Small wonder. I often watch the Daily Show, but missed the offending
show under discussion. Found the following synopsis:

http://www.tvsquad.com/2005/07/26/the-daily-show-july-25-2005/

It wasn't funny. I'm going to write Comedy Central. Not that it will
do/change anything, but trying to get a laugh out of a body part lost
to cancer crosses a line. Earlier in the month, one of Jon's "guests"
was Bernard Goldberg, an ex-network newsie who famously "exposed"
liberal bias in network news. Goldberg just published a book lamenting
the coarsening of American culture (basically the words-can-be-poison
caution). Stewart was probably harder on Goldberg than I've ever seen
him be on any of Stewart's "guests" -- totally rejecting the premise of
Goldberg's book.

But the trash satire of Armstrong's cancer offered powerful support to
Goldberg's arguments. And that's what I'm going to tell Comedy
Central.

URL for providing feedback to Comedy Central about their programming:

http://www.comedycentral.com/help/questionsCC.jhtml

- Larry W
 
[email protected] (Larry Weisenthal) wrote:
...... Earlier in the month, one of Jon's "guests"
> was Bernard Goldberg, an ex-network newsie who famously "exposed"
> liberal bias in network news. Goldberg just published a book lamenting
> the coarsening of American culture (basically the words-can-be-poison
> caution). Stewart was probably harder on Goldberg than I've ever seen
> him be on any of Stewart's "guests" -- totally rejecting the premise of
> Goldberg's book......

Stewart said that Goldberg's aiming at the likes of Barbra Streisand as
menaces to U.S.culture rather than at government was laughable. J.S. is
usually impressively civil, even deferential, to those who think
entirely unlike him, e.g., Rick Santorum recently. I've never seen him
go as low as the skit on Armstrong. The intention was funny enough, to
knock anyone whose adulation had gone over the top, but it quickly
became weird, full of hostility to bicycling itself, and making repeated
one-ball non-jokes. They made themselves look provincial at best.

Ruth Kazez
 
I say look for him on the Cross circuit this year.
He did a few races this year, and by all accounts, he was not dominant
in them.

If course this is all wild speculation on my part. For all i know he
could be getting involved in full-contact curling.
 
"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mike Tennent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>

>Give me the OLN Tour coverage of the
>actual race anyday than that maudlin, phony sentimental BS called the
>Ironman telecast.

Me too. Hands down. But the discussion wasn't about quality of the
telecast, it was about being on network TV as opposed to a cable
channel. OLN's TdF coverage is why I pony up the extra bucks for
premium cable.

But even OLN was getting a bit trying this year. Hence the following
spoof email that was going around:

> OLN Fires Phil Liggett
>
> Paris, July 5 (Reuters) - Outdoor Life Network today severed its contract
> with Phil Liggett, a perennial favorite cycling announcer both in England
> and in the United States. A spokesperson for Outdoor Life Network
> said, "We regret having to let Phil go, but he knew the terms
> of our agreement when he signed on. Namely, he is required to allude to
> Lance Armstrong three times per minute, with at least one of those
> mentions being by name. Most importantly, at no point in time shall forty
> seconds ever elapse without a mention of Lance Armstrong."

***


> Do people around the water cooler talk about the Ironman like they do
>the Tour although the Ironman is far easier to understand?

Oh, yeah. Great conversations.

Me: "Well, Lance has the yellow jersey."
Them: "Oh good, then he's won the race?"
Me: "No, just the stage."
Them: "Oh, I thought he'd won. You mean he hasn't?"
Me: "Sigh"

>Can a person on the street recognize Hunter Kemper or Andy Potts' names?

Can a person on the street name one other American bike racer?
Will anyone watch next year when Lance isn't there?

Look, we both know the general public's understanding of what the TdF,
Ironman, marathon, etc actually involve is abysmally poor.

Typical water fountain conversation:

"Well, I finished the <Insert name> marathon Saturday."
Response A: "Really? My sister did a 5K marathon last month..."
Response B: "Great. How far did you run?"

The only thing that gets there attention is media coverage.

I really hope Lance continues to be in the spotlight. It's be great if
bicycle racing becomes a major participant sport in the US.

But you and I know both know that isn't going to happen.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
 
Anthony A. <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I say look for him on the Cross circuit this year.
> He did a few races this year, and by all accounts, he was not
dominant
> in them.
>
> If course this is all wild speculation on my part. For all i know he
> could be getting involved in full-contact curling.
>
Surfing.
--
Matthew
Slow and steady wins the race.
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:13:47 -0600, "Aspiring Tortoise"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Anthony A. <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I say look for him on the Cross circuit this year.
>> He did a few races this year, and by all accounts, he was not
>dominant
>> in them.
>>
>> If course this is all wild speculation on my part. For all i know he
>> could be getting involved in full-contact curling.
>>
>Surfing.

You know he's a decent water skiier, right? He did mention wind surfing.

jj
 
"rtk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Larry Weisenthal) wrote:
> ..... Earlier in the month, one of Jon's "guests"
>> was Bernard Goldberg, an ex-network newsie who famously "exposed"
>> liberal bias in network news. Goldberg just published a book lamenting
>> the coarsening of American culture (basically the words-can-be-poison
>> caution). Stewart was probably harder on Goldberg than I've ever seen
>> him be on any of Stewart's "guests" -- totally rejecting the premise of
>> Goldberg's book......
>
> Stewart said that Goldberg's aiming at the likes of Barbra Streisand as
> menaces to U.S.culture rather than at government was laughable. J.S. is
> usually impressively civil, even deferential, to those who think entirely
> unlike him, e.g., Rick Santorum recently. I've never seen him go as low
> as the skit on Armstrong. The intention was funny enough, to knock anyone
> whose adulation had gone over the top, but it quickly became weird, full
> of hostility to bicycling itself, and making repeated one-ball non-jokes.
> They made themselves look provincial at best.
>
> Ruth Kazez

I have felt that JS has changed since the DS has become more popular, and
even more so since the presidential election. There was a time i wouldn't
miss a show. Now...errr...not so much.
 
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:28:18 -0500, [email protected] (Larry Weisenthal)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't see him doing the Ironman in 2006. If he were to do it, he'd
> want to win it (which he's certainly capable of doing). But that would
> mean he'd have to train just as hard as he did for the Tour de France,
> and he allegedly wants to spend time with his kids (did you catch the
> interview with his Mom on OLN where his mom said that he was looking
> forward to taking his kids to SWIM MEETS?). I think maybe, in a year
> or two, he just might get the itch to again conquer the world. The
> Ironman is a sufficiently high profile event that there would be a lot
> of anticipation and a huge viewership, were he to announce that he was
> planning on doing it. Were he to win, his legend would become even
> more stratospheric. I truly do think that the guy has a future as a
> politician, as many have suggested.

I concur with the ironman comments. Just for my own curiosity, is there
anything besides his cancer story and his notariety that make him a good
political prospect (which I agree in and of themselves make him more
qualified than about 40% of our elected officials?) I suppose in addition
to his many amicable qualities, his demonstrated ability to hold a grudge
might serve him well in politics as well :)

- Al
 
>I concur with the ironman comments. Just for my own curiosity, is there
>anything besides his cancer story and his notariety that make him a good
>political prospect (which I agree in and of themselves make him more
>qualified than about 40% of our elected officials?) I suppose in addition
>to his many amicable qualities, his demonstrated ability to hold a grudge
>might serve him well in politics as well :)

Thanks to his work with the foundation, he's well acquainted with a
lot of people with deep pockets. In politics (and especially in Texas)
that's essential.

--
Brian P. Baresch
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill
 
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