Input please, support

Gosh, Sunshyne. I'm really sorry to hear about all that you're going
through. I don't have any advice for you, but I am keeping you in my
prayers.

Definitely get your bowel bleeding checked out thoroughly, though. DH
started with that a few years ago, and I MADE him go to the doctor. Turned
out to be IBS/colitis. But I also had a friend with the same symptoms who
died from colo-rectal cancer. You never can tell.

--
Linda
296/203/160
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question

the

Quoted message said:

Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to

get

Quoted message said:

some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has

been

Quoted message said:

mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few

others..

Quoted message said:

can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric

acid

Quoted message said:

on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was

in

Quoted message said:

the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty

comments

Quoted message said:

please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family

doctor

Quoted message said:

told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All

last

Quoted message said:

week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro

worse,

Quoted message said:

the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well

anyway, I

Quoted message said:

have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain

or

Quoted message said:

anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids

(sp)

Quoted message said:

are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more

testing,

Quoted message said:

specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme

though.. In

Quoted message said:

the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood

tests

Quoted message said:

were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came

back

Quoted message said:

fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER

immediately.

Quoted message said:

Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right

now.

Quoted message said:

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.

The

Quoted message said:

weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink
at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters (well over
64 oz) and the gout has not come back since. He also only eats red meat 1-2X
per week and chooses white meats over the red. Water is also going to help
your bowel movements. I had a problem with constipation before I even
started Atkins, yet I hardly drank any water. Now I drink 100 oz per day and
have no problems at all while on Atkins. I also choose high fiber veggies
such as broccoli, cauliflower and spinach for my dinner.
I hope this helps a little.
Please get better soon and take care of yourself. Drink more water!😉

hugs,

Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question

the

Quoted message said:

Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to

get

Quoted message said:

some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has

been

Quoted message said:

mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few

others..

Quoted message said:

can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric

acid

Quoted message said:

on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was

in

Quoted message said:

the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty

comments

Quoted message said:

please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family

doctor

Quoted message said:

told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All

last

Quoted message said:

week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro

worse,

Quoted message said:

the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well

anyway, I

Quoted message said:

have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain

or

Quoted message said:

anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids

(sp)

Quoted message said:

are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more

testing,

Quoted message said:

specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme

though.. In

Quoted message said:

the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood

tests

Quoted message said:

were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came

back

Quoted message said:

fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER

immediately.

Quoted message said:

Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right

now.

Quoted message said:

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.

The

Quoted message said:

weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

Sunhyne said ... and I quote

"All last week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with
Fibro worse, the joint pain."

Sunshyne ...

are you saying Fibro as in fibromyalgia?

Placid

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question
the
Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to
get
some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric
acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was
in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family
doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro
worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well
anyway, I
have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain
or
anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids
(sp)
are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more
testing,
specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme
though.. In
the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood
tests
were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came
back
fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER
immediately.
Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right
now.

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.
The
weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

Quoted message said:

From: "PlacidBull"

Quoted message said:

"All last week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with
Fibro worse, the joint pain."

Sunshyne ...

are you saying Fibro as in fibromyalgia?

Yes, fibromayglia. I also have degenerative disk disease, cervical and lumbar
hernitated disks.

Quoted message said:

From: "Lady o' the house"
Gosh, Sunshyne. I'm really sorry to hear about all that you're going
through. I don't have any advice for you, but I am keeping you in my
prayers.

Definitely get your bowel bleeding checked out thoroughly, though. DH
started with that a few years ago,

Quoted message said:

and I MADE him go to the doctor. Turned
out to be IBS/colitis. But I also had a friend with the same symptoms who
died from colo-rectal cancer. You never can tell.

I had to make myself go to the doctor. I mean what happened is freaky. Its a
subject that is hard to talk about also, with rectal. The colo-rectal cancer
is on my mind also. Thanks for the support Linda. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink
at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters (well over
64 oz) and the gout has not come back since. He also only eats red meat 1-2X
per week and chooses white meats over the red. Water is also going to help
your bowel movements. I had a problem with constipation before I even
started Atkins, yet I hardly drank any water. Now I drink 100 oz per day and
have no problems at all while on Atkins. I also choose high fiber veggies
such as broccoli, cauliflower and spinach for my dinner.
I hope this helps a little.
Please get better soon and take care of yourself. Drink more water!😉

hugs,

Tonya
www.lowcarbcrew.com

Tonya, that helped alot. Thank you.
🙂

Quoted message said:

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question

the

Quoted message said:

Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to

get

Quoted message said:

some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has

been

Quoted message said:

mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few

others..

Quoted message said:

can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric

acid

Quoted message said:

on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was

in

Quoted message said:

the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty

comments

Quoted message said:

please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family

doctor

Quoted message said:

told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All

last

Quoted message said:

week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro

worse,

Quoted message said:

the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well

anyway, I

Quoted message said:

have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain

or

Quoted message said:

anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids

(sp)

Quoted message said:

are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more

testing,

Quoted message said:

specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme

though.. In

Quoted message said:

the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood

tests

Quoted message said:

were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came

back

Quoted message said:

fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER

immediately.

Quoted message said:

Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right

now.

Quoted message said:

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.

The

Quoted message said:

weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

ah, ... has it ever been suggested before that perhaps you suffer from
hyperchondria?

The physical symptoms are always real, but might be "normal" physical signs
which are misinterpreted as more dangerous than they really are.

Placid

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From: "PlacidBull"

Quoted message said:

"All last week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with
Fibro worse, the joint pain."

Sunshyne ...

are you saying Fibro as in fibromyalgia?

Yes, fibromayglia. I also have degenerative disk disease, cervical and
lumbar
hernitated disks.

x-no-archive: yes

Quoted message said:

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has
been
mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few
others..
can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric acid
on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was in
the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty
comments
please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family doctor
told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All
last
week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro worse,
the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

Did anyone call in an infectious disease specialist? Painful joints along with
your other symptoms are frequent with the various tick borne diseases, for
example.

It's a very unreasonable stretch to think that a sudden, acute illness with
multiple symptoms was brought on by a diet you've been on for a lengthy period.

Susan

From: "PlacidBull"

Quoted message said:

ah, ... has it ever been suggested before that perhaps you suffer from
hyperchondria?

The physical symptoms are always real, but might be "normal" physical signs
which are misinterpreted as more dangerous than they really are.

Quoted message said:

Placid

Placid. There are also others that have a diagnoisis of Fibromyalgia also in
here. I would like the others with the same illness as me, to step up to the
plate on this one. We are not hyperchondiacs. I am sure there are a few of them
out there though, that fit the description you gave.

Of course we may seem like we are. That is understandable. We do have weird
symptoms, we do have physical pain. We do look normal to others. I do
understand also, there are doctors out there that do not believe in
Fibromyalgia also. Fibromyalgia also runs hand in hand at times. With other
disorders and diseases. Lupus, MS, Arthritis. Many auto-immune disease's and
disorders.

I have studied FM. At times FM is diagnosed, and at a later time, a different
diagnosis is obtained, when new symptoms appear.

I take it as a insult. That you have implyed that the symptoms I listed in the
OP, are also due to your perception of me being a hyperchondriac.

Also, I have other chronic pain conditions along with Fibromyalgia. Are those
in my head too, with your perceptions?

I am on a low carb dieting plan. A way of eating. I have alot of pain, and
illness problems. I come here for support on dieting. I also come here for ways
to improve my pain and illness with improvements on dieting. Got a problem with
that?

x-no-archive: yes

Quoted message said:

ah, ... has it ever been suggested before that perhaps you suffer from
hyperchondria?

Is that a typo, or were you referring to hypochondria?

Quoted message said:

The physical symptoms are always real, but might be "normal" physical signs
which are misinterpreted as more dangerous than they really are.

Placid

That would be a totally inappropriate diagnosis before all physical causes have
been investigated. It's extremely rare, if, in fact, it exists at all.

Susan

Stop the VIOXX. It gave my mom stomach bleeding and a study published this
past week showed that it triples the likelihood of having a heart attack.

You have to love the way that they warn you of all the dire things the diet
will do--which it doesn't, and then prescribe you drugs that are most
definitely harmful.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

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"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to question

the

Quoted message said:

Atkins diet now. I will try to make it short and to the point. I hope to

get

Quoted message said:

some input from those in the medical field.

I have been experiencing joint inflammation. Mainly the elbows. Gout has

been

Quoted message said:

mentioned. Also, eating meats, mainly red meats and seafood,and a few

others..

Quoted message said:

can cause Gout symptoms to appear? Or make it worse. By build up of uric

acid

Quoted message said:

on the joints?

This may not be really a Atkins related diet thing. But maybe it is. I was

in

Quoted message said:

the ER/Hospital yeserday. (It is emabarrassing to talk about, no nasty

comments

Quoted message said:

please) I experienced bleeding during bowel movements. My reg family

doctor

Quoted message said:

told me to go to the ER immediately. I was also feeling faint, dizzy. All

last

Quoted message said:

week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with Fibro

worse,

Quoted message said:

the joint pain. Just not my normal self. Which my mornal self is not well
anyways. I sense something is wrong for sure.

I was diagnosed, after some not so great testing. Rectal scoping. I have a
internal hemmoroid (sp). Most likely caused by constipation, and or
dehydration.

I have normal bowel movements, no constipation. With not feeling well

anyway, I

Quoted message said:

have not been drinking enough though, I admit that. I did not have pain

or

Quoted message said:

anything with the bleeding bowel movements. I was told, internal hemmroids

(sp)

Quoted message said:

are not painful during bowel movents.

I was sent home with a stool softener. A referral out to have more

testing,

Quoted message said:

specifically the colon. More scoping. I also have pain, not extreme

though.. In

Quoted message said:

the stomach area. High up. The ER docs were concerned with this. Blood

tests

Quoted message said:

were done. Because of the tiredness, weakness feeling. The blood work came

back

Quoted message said:

fine.

I have a list of symptoms, if they occur. To go back to the ER

immediately.

Quoted message said:

Symptoms for more interanal bleeding, or bowel obstruction. For now, just
resting. I am so tired. I don't feel well. Support would be good too right

now.

Quoted message said:

I have no appetite. I have lost alot of weight too the last couple weeks.

The

Quoted message said:

weight loss I feel, not from dieting.

I also started a new med. Just took it one day. Vioxx. Maybe it ulcered my
stomach.

Quoted message said:

Did anyone call in an infectious disease specialist? Painful joints along
with
your other symptoms are frequent with the various tick borne diseases, for
example.

It's a very unreasonable stretch to think that a sudden, acute illness with
multiple symptoms was brought on by a diet you've been on for a lengthy
period.

Susan

I go to a low cost health clinic. I have no health insurance. I go to the
doctor again on Monday. Hopefully we will be able to get referrals out, to
affordable specialists.

I do have a appt. coming for a Rheumatologist.

I am trying to look at all angles. Yes, I have been on the diet for 7-8 months.
I did see big improvement on my health. IBS did clear up. I did feel better. I
was able to exercise. The last few weeks. The last part of this summer. I have
been really sick. I havn't been able to do much at all.

Eating certain meats, can cause Gout symptoms in some people. Dehydration also.

Thanks for the input, greatly appreciated. I will bring the suggestions up with
my doctor next week.
🙂

From: "Tonya"

Quoted message said:

I am no doctor but something similar came up in another LC board I am on
with gout in particular. His doc told him he is not drinking enough water to
support this way of eating. Even Dr. A. says it is VERY important to drink

Quoted message said:

at least 64 oz of water per day. He upped his water to 3 liters

What other LC board are you on? I am interested. It is very hard to post and
ask questions. It is hard to find support and info for both illness, pain,
dieting.

Thats why I stopped posting for awhile.

Yes, Sunshyne,

My doctor friends have told me that the medical profession uses the term
fibromyalgia as a code word to signify patients who are suffering from
hypocondria.

Whenever someone tells them that they have been diagnoised with
fibromyalgia, the medical professional's response is ... hmmm ... yes ... I
understand.

Placid

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

From: "PlacidBull"

Quoted message said:

ah, ... has it ever been suggested before that perhaps you suffer from
hyperchondria?

The physical symptoms are always real, but might be "normal" physical
signs
which are misinterpreted as more dangerous than they really are.

Quoted message said:

Placid

Placid. There are also others that have a diagnoisis of Fibromyalgia also
in
here. I would like the others with the same illness as me, to step up to
the
plate on this one. We are not hyperchondiacs. I am sure there are a few of
them
out there though, that fit the description you gave.

Of course we may seem like we are. That is understandable. We do have
weird
symptoms, we do have physical pain. We do look normal to others. I do
understand also, there are doctors out there that do not believe in
Fibromyalgia also. Fibromyalgia also runs hand in hand at times. With
other
disorders and diseases. Lupus, MS, Arthritis. Many auto-immune disease's
and
disorders.

I have studied FM. At times FM is diagnosed, and at a later time, a
different
diagnosis is obtained, when new symptoms appear.

I take it as a insult. That you have implyed that the symptoms I listed in
the
OP, are also due to your perception of me being a hyperchondriac.

Also, I have other chronic pain conditions along with Fibromyalgia. Are
those
in my head too, with your perceptions?

I am on a low carb dieting plan. A way of eating. I have alot of pain, and
illness problems. I come here for support on dieting. I also come here for
ways
to improve my pain and illness with improvements on dieting. Got a problem
with
that?

Fibromayglia = hypochondria.

HTH

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Sunshyne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From: "PlacidBull"

Quoted message said:

"All last week I have not been well. Tired, fatigued, weakness, pain with
Fibro worse, the joint pain."

Sunshyne ...

are you saying Fibro as in fibromyalgia?

Yes, fibromayglia. I also have degenerative disk disease, cervical and
lumbar
hernitated disks.

x-no-archive: yes

Quoted message said:

Yes, Sunshyne,

My doctor friends have told me that the medical profession uses the term
fibromyalgia as a code word to signify patients who are suffering from
hypocondria.

Then you should find some smarter, more knowledgable doctor friends. FMS
patients have biochemical and other abnormalities that folks without FMS don't
have.

Only a lazy, dismissive as@hole doc uses it interchangably with hyPOCHONDRIA.

Quoted message said:

Whenever someone tells them that they have been diagnoised with
fibromyalgia, the medical professional's response is ... hmmm ... yes ... I
understand.

Placid

Now we all understand. Ignorant as@holes tend to flock to one another.

Susan

Sunshyne wrote:
||| Did anyone call in an infectious disease specialist? Painful
||| joints along with
||| your other symptoms are frequent with the various tick borne
||| diseases, for example.
|||
||| It's a very unreasonable stretch to think that a sudden, acute
||| illness with multiple symptoms was brought on by a diet you've been
||| on for a lengthy period.
|||
||| Susan
|||
|||
||
|| I go to a low cost health clinic. I have no health insurance. I go
|| to the doctor again on Monday. Hopefully we will be able to get
|| referrals out, to affordable specialists.
||
|| I do have a appt. coming for a Rheumatologist.
||
|| I am trying to look at all angles. Yes, I have been on the diet for
|| 7-8 months. I did see big improvement on my health. IBS did clear
|| up. I did feel better. I was able to exercise. The last few weeks.
|| The last part of this summer. I have been really sick. I havn't been
|| able to do much at all.
||
|| Eating certain meats, can cause Gout symptoms in some people.
|| Dehydration also.
||
||
|| Thanks for the input, greatly appreciated. I will bring the
|| suggestions up with my doctor next week.
|| 🙂

When you bring this up with your doctor, don't mention Atkins...just tell
him/her you've removed/reduced starchy foods, sugar & flour products, and
junk good.

<smile>

Well, at least now you know how you are being preceived when you present a
wide array of ailments along with the "code word" fibromyalgia.

Take care,

good luck on your low carb way of life

Placid
203/152/149

"Susan " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

x-no-archive: yes

Quoted message said:

Yes, Sunshyne,

My doctor friends have told me that the medical profession uses the term
fibromyalgia as a code word to signify patients who are suffering from
hypocondria.

Then you should find some smarter, more knowledgable doctor friends. FMS
patients have biochemical and other abnormalities that folks without FMS
don't
have.

Only a lazy, dismissive as@hole doc uses it interchangably with
hyPOCHONDRIA.

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Whenever someone tells them that they have been diagnoised with
fibromyalgia, the medical professional's response is ... hmmm ... yes ...
I
understand.

Placid

Now we all understand. Ignorant as@holes tend to flock to one another.

Susan

(Sunshyne) said:

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With not feeling well anyway, I have not been drinking enough though, I admit
that. I have had some medical problems come up. And its causing me to
question the Atkins diet now.

That's a major no-no with low-carbing. You MUST drink water/liquids and you
MUST eat fibrous veggies like broccoli, cabbage, green beans, etc.
Both will prevent constipation, and hydration will help prevent gout.
However, I also have FM and eat low-carb, and will tell you that I had those
kinds of pains you describe well before I ever started a diet plan. So I doubt
seriously that your eating is causing the pain unless the pain is from
constipation. The Vioxx certainly is suspect as well.
Unless your doctor is low-carb friendly, he'll just tell you that you need to
eat sugar and flour anyway. (G) So many people just don't understand what
low-carbing is all about, and it's a shame.
Gout manifests with extreme pain, swelling, and redness, usually in only one
joint, and usually in the extremities. (The pain is excruciating...not just
"bad". I've had it in my big toe, pre-low-carbing. Trust me - it's horrible!)
The symptoms should spontaneously disappear in about two weeks. When/if it
comes back, it can return in the same places or different ones. Mine never did
reoccur.
Overindulgence of alcohol and red meats IS a cause of gout, but mainly in the
presence of dehydration. Trauma to the joints is another cause. You already
have fibro, so that may be the cause. Dehydration is a major cause of gout. You
GOTTA keep hydrated, girl! Some medications can cause gout too- blood pressure
meds, diruetics, even aspirin.
Keep up the good fight; I know how discouraging it can be sometimes. And
please, go drink something! LOL!

Connie
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