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  1. "Erica" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    I started smoking when I was 8 years old. I quit 20 years later.

    There is no try, only do or not do.

    Can you accept that things are harder for some people than for others?
    For instance, learning calculus is definitely easier for someone who's
    gifted in math than for someone who isn't, but that doesn't mean the
    person who isn't gifted can't learn it. That person just has to work
    harder. And it's not like Luna is smoking and making excuses for that.
    She quit, and she's having a hard time but she hasn't started smoking
    again.

    I'm giving her extra motivation to carry on.

    Free of charge.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Erica" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    I started smoking when I was 8 years old. I quit 20 years later.

    There is no try, only do or not do.

    Can you accept that things are harder for some people than for others?
    For instance, learning calculus is definitely easier for someone who's
    gifted in math than for someone who isn't, but that doesn't mean the
    person who isn't gifted can't learn it. That person just has to work
    harder. And it's not like Luna is smoking and making excuses for that.
    She quit, and she's having a hard time but she hasn't started smoking
    again.

    I'm giving her extra motivation to carry on.

    Free of charge.

    Oh, I thought you were giving me extra motivation to kick you.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  3. Luna wrote:
    || In article <[email hidden]>,
    || "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ||
    ||| "Erica" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| news:[email hidden]...
    |||| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:36:53 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
    |||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ||||
    ||||| I started smoking when I was 8 years old. I quit 20 years later.
    |||||
    ||||| There is no try, only do or not do.
    ||||
    |||| Can you accept that things are harder for some people than for
    |||| others? For instance, learning calculus is definitely easier for
    |||| someone who's gifted in math than for someone who isn't, but that
    |||| doesn't mean the person who isn't gifted can't learn it. That
    |||| person just has to work harder. And it's not like Luna is smoking
    |||| and making excuses for that. She quit, and she's having a hard
    |||| time but she hasn't started smoking again.
    |||
    |||
    ||| I'm giving her extra motivation to carry on.
    |||
    ||| Free of charge.
    |||
    |||
    ||
    || Oh, I thought you were giving me extra motivation to kick you.

    I think you given him and Queen a pretty good virtual beatdown.

  4. Scary.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Erica" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:36:53 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I started smoking when I was 8 years old. I quit 20 years later.
    >
    >There is no try, only do or not do.

    Can you accept that things are harder for some people than for others?
    For instance, learning calculus is definitely easier for someone who's
    gifted in math than for someone who isn't, but that doesn't mean the
    person who isn't gifted can't learn it. That person just has to work
    harder. And it's not like Luna is smoking and making excuses for that.
    She quit, and she's having a hard time but she hasn't started smoking
    again.

    I'm giving her extra motivation to carry on.

    Free of charge.

    Oh, I thought you were giving me extra motivation to kick you.

    --
    Michelle Levin
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, Barb2

    Quoted message said:
    Luna said:


    But what then? I get the eating under control, and then what? I'll
    start drinking? Doing heroin? I have to fix what's actually
    wrong, but I don't know how.

    Some thoughts:

    You might want to spend some time alone ... quiet ... focusing on your
    breathing, taking some slow deep breaths. Most smokers inhale deeply
    so, counter intuitively, actually suck in more oxygen than when they
    quit smoking and breathe more shallowly. Tobacco is also cured in
    sugar, which is part of the withdrawal - a good Complex vitamin may help
    - B-1 is especially good with addictions. I personally also invite my
    higher power into my consciousness and call a supportive friend.

    I agree with the time, alone. I also think that, and this is NOT a
    dirty word, nor a cop-out, nor a way of saying anything other than what
    I'm going to say, that therapy is a good thing.

    Of course, I'm coming from a background wherein my mentors wanted
    everyone they worked with to have therapy, even if there were no
    external issues going on, such as quitting an addiction, having
    relationship issues, family problems, etc.

    Therapy is a good way to get in touch with the inner you - and to really
    find out why one makes the decisions one makes. It's also a great way
    to come to understand the way one moves in the world, and why it is that
    sometimes our view of ourself varies from the outside view of us - and
    what that does.

    There are some great programs out there that aren't about psychotherapy,
    but are about counselling and discussion. I've always found it helpful,
    particularly when I've been dealing with stress.

    --
    Nancy Howells (don't forget to switch it, and replace the 😉 to send mail).

  6. Luna said:

    Thanks for all the suggestions Barb. I actually just posted about
    my newly discovered scrapbooking hobby. I see a lot of potential
    in it as something therapeutic for me.

    That's great. I just saw something on Good Morning America about how
    it's sweeping the country. I hadn't realized it.

    Quoted message said:


    I'm actually pretty proud of some of the things I've written in
    these arguments. The point isn't to convince anyone else that I'm
    right, it's to make sure, for myself, that I know I'm right. I
    can't _really_ know what I think and if it makes sense until I try
    to convince someone else. Some of my journal entries are like
    that. I'll write as if I'm arguing with someone I don't know,
    someone fictional, or from history, or current events.

    Ah... I see. Well, good! I'd misunderstood from some post or other
    that you were upset about some peoples' opinions here.

    Quoted message said:

    So, I hope it doesn't hurt anyone's feelings, but I don't care if I


    convince

    Quoted message said:

    my opponents or not. I'm just using them and their statements as a


    tool to sharpen my focus. And of course as a distraction from eating and

    Quoted message said:

    craving cigarettes. ;o)

    Keep breathing deeply at least for a few minutes a day. I don't know
    how you journal - I like to go to the Oprah site and keep a journal.
    It's a nice set up and can be printed if you want. Maybe there are
    lots of such places on the net now. It's easy to look back and see how
    you were doing at any time.

    Keep up the great work. Remember, the last addiction to go puts up the
    biggest fight!

    Barb

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