Discovery in disarray.... ?
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cyclingheroes said:whiteboytrash said:The sorry season of Discovery continues... T-Mobile notch up another win and the Discovery boys fall further and further back...... its going to be a long Tour and an even longer season for Discovery with no wins to their name.....[/QUOT]
To behonest, if it goes on like this the whole peloton could be in disarray...
Right, that TM is now focusing on stage wins because their main GC contender was asked not to race, including by their sonsor, really shows DC is in disarray.
As I have shown, DC has numerous wins. Stating DC has no wins to their name this season is simply inaccurate.
We talk ProTour wins here Sunny-jim not a provincial races in Spain with no dope controls..... This year Discovery have zero ProTour wins ! and have never come 1 + 2 in a stage at the Tour ever ! T-Mobile have !musette said:
As for the "sonsor" T-Mobile openly forbids their riders to associate with convicted drug doctors like Ferrari whereas Discovery are overruled by the insatiable drug appetites by its athletes to work with Ferrari.... the line is clear: T-Mobile zero tolerance on drugs, Discovery publicly says its bad but allow its riders (in secret) to use Ferrari and his evil methods.
whiteboytrash said:Stick with me and you'll be fine !
To be honest Landis, Mayo, Levi and Hincapie were all struggling yesterday and this Tour is different than previous years... riders need to be up the front grabbing time bonuses when they can... I have watched the first 3 stages in full and there is something exciting in the peleton. With the dismantling of the Ferrari charged Discovery there is a new lease of life in the bunch. Riders are going for it and not sitting back waiting for Discovery to time trail the peleton to the last 30km.... even the sprints are chaotic... I like it.... this year the rider who wears yellow won't win it in the traditional way... the rider who wins will come from a team that is not strong... I think Rogers has a big chance of a podium... Virenque touted him as a future winner when he rode for Quickstep... he is good and he works hard..... mark my words we the winner of this Tour will not come from the usual suspects....
One final point... T-Mobile have suffered some hits over the last few days but at least they have to he balls to publicly state there riders will not work with any doctor who has a shady past... this is in stark contrast to Discovery who still work with Ferrari and worst still won't admit they do... they are leaving a trail of lies and deception where-ever they go... Discovery is not in disarray on the medical front but still do not have a win to their name this year therefore are in disarray on the road.
no offense but don't you think it's a bit premature to be saying this? you should prolly wait until a climbing stage to say that the small time bonuses will determine the winner. i don't necessarily disagree with you but until we see who brought their climbing legs, it's really silly to be forecasting who will and won't win.
every year someone starts worrying about the small gaps that begin to emerge before the mtns. don't be that guy.
We are not! Salvo's wins are worth 0 points. If a DC rider of American origin wins the team will in fact have points deducted. Also if a non-DC rider of American origin (Landis, Levi, etc.) wins, DC will again be deducted points. Of course all wins by T-mob will be worth double points (triple when it occurs on July 4th).Eldrack said:
The knife cuts very deep and very hard or should I say the PMU hand cuts deep.....musette said:
The Blue jersey competition at the Giro is a prize for mediocrity... great in nothing and ok in everything. Its the prize for the boring guy at high school which Savo is... the biggest prize that Savo will get this year is a new contract to Lampre... you know it, I know and Savo certainly knows its DISCOVERY ARE IN DISARRAY.
I was awesome at High School... very popular and a loads of chics.......rejobako said:Yes, but unlike in your case, the vote was not unanimous.
JU's Tour de Suisse and Giro ITT wins were the only Protour TM wins before Kessler's stage. If JU's ITT results are demonstrated to have been the ruling of Operacion Puerto doping, how glorious for TM would it be that they will have had no Protour wins that were not obtained, according to strong suspicion by that time, by doping until Kessler's?
Even counting JU's ITT wins, before the Tour, TM had the same exact number of Protour stage wins (and any other Protour wins, even leaving aside Savo's blue jersey in the Giro) than DC. DC has much better chances for GC placement in this Tour than TM does, without JU. We can see at the end of the Tour whether DC or TM will have done better, taking into account GC placement as well as stage wins. Who knows -- maybe Hincapie or Savo will win GC!
Even counting JU's ITT wins, before the Tour, TM had the same exact number of Protour stage wins (and any other Protour wins, even leaving aside Savo's blue jersey in the Giro) than DC. DC has much better chances for GC placement in this Tour than TM does, without JU. We can see at the end of the Tour whether DC or TM will have done better, taking into account GC placement as well as stage wins. Who knows -- maybe Hincapie or Savo will win GC!
Even when they wheelsuck they still can't win stages ! This is in struck contrast to the front riding my Kessler of T-Mobile !Ullefan said:
Have you ever seen George Hincapie race a bicycle?musette said:Who knows -- maybe Hincapie or Savo will win GC!
He has strong legs, and seems like a nice guy, but he has no eye for tactics, and is always on the wrong side of a decisive move. Big George is the ultimate domestique and not the man to pin your GC hopes on.
Great observation wbt!!!!!! DC still has problems winning stages. They need to get out of the rut of winning GT's and start winning stages. After Hincapies crash at PR, I was almost convinced Bruyneel was in disarray... But now I see the brilliant tactician he is. He knew from the past 8 TDF's that JU would do something to screw his TDF hopes up. JU is so predictable. Bruyneel gambled on Basso being too tired from his Giro win. Bruyneel knew that if he could keep all the other riders guessing who is the DC team leader , that he might be able to place a few riders in the front of the GC when the TDF hits the mountains.whiteboytrash said:Even when they wheelsuck they still can't win stages ! This is in struck contrast to the front riding my Kessler of T-Mobile !
This is where we see DC go into action...... Same script as always. Wear them down, then defeat them in the time trials and ride with them in the mountains.
I was like you guys ..I had written off DC's chances this year.
This could be Bruyneels finest year!!!!!!!!
Ullefan said:
Actually it was Martinez's plan to gift the stage to Coutouly (by not sprinting) thus propogating the Discovery theology that insulting inferior riders is more important than actually winning. Too bad Robbie messed things up for him.
"Today Martinez had a chance of victory, but didn't, because he wheelsucked like all DC riders."
He did more than his share and was awarded the most aggresive rider prize for the day. So he was hardly a wheelsucker.
Chrystie
He did more than his share and was awarded the most aggresive rider prize for the day. So he was hardly a wheelsucker.
Chrystie
wolfix said:
You jest?
It is now July : DC's nearest victory was RVV and P-R with Leif Hoste.
That has been the highlight of the DC season thus far.
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