Bloody AUK



davek wrote:
> MartinM wrote:
> > if they did insurance as well it would be
> > worth joining instead of CTC.
>
> Eh? Wot? I thought insurance /was/ included in the membership - or is it
> that the insurance applies only to AUK rides?

The £1 insurance or AUK membership only covers the event; and not the
rider either AIUI, you sign a disclaimer that you are out on a private
excursion, but if someone claims against the organiser this will
presumably be covered under AUK's PLI policy.

> Doesn't matter to me anyway as I get CTC insurance through my club
> membership.

I really should re-join CTC, especially after the WVM post last week
and the general anti-cyclist drivel in the meeja ATM.
 
MartinM wrote On 02/23/06 15:29,:

> I really should re-join CTC, especially after the WVM post last week
> and the general anti-cyclist drivel in the meeja ATM.
Yes, especially now they seem to be processing membership again.
 
Arthur Clune wrote:
> MSeries wrote:
>
> > Perhaps this is an attempt to stop non-members entering too far in
> > advance and filling the rides up. Members should get priority IMO but
>
> Except as someone else pointed out to me, you can still see events
> in the future by clicking on the month letter. It's bonkers.
>
> If you want members to have priority (fair enough) then make that
> explicit; N rides allowed, members get listed first, two weeks
> before the ride say.
>
> Arthur
>
> --
> Arthur Clune

Yes I know, thats why I said an attempt. Probably too much hassle for
organisers to hold non members entries until a certain date.
Thankfully for me I have not been refused an entry so far. None of the
long events I did were full anyway, these are the really importnat ones
since there are fewer of them and next year they are qualifiers for
PBP. Racers and pretend racers tend to stick to 200s or less
 
"Simon Bennett" <[email protected]>typed


> RG wrote:

> > I think that as well as the mudguard change the relaxation on beard
> > requirement probably helps too ....

> It's been /relaxed/?


Nah, I grew a beard so I wouldn't feel left out.

Hirsute, near Harrow.

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email protected]
Edgware.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
MSeries ([email protected]) wrote:

> Racers and pretend racers tend to stick to 200s or less

(Shuffles quietly away with sheepish expression...)

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
My only hope in life is to die before I get my comeuppence.
 
MSeries wrote:

> Yes I know, thats why I said an attempt. Probably too much hassle for
> organisers to hold non members entries until a certain date.
> Thankfully for me I have not been refused an entry so far.

ITYF most organisers send out entries as they receive them, whether
from members or not; I certainly did, I would not discriminate if it
came to the crunch, perhaps I'd be keener to see a non AUK member ride
so they could get a taste of it. It is a shame to turn anyone away but
if anyone's ever seen the long queues outside the hall for the Tour of
the Hills (which also has a staggered start) they'd appreciate why.
 
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> AUK are like the RTTC in this. Event info has to be free these days -
> trying
> to charge for it is just a non-starter. The RTTC are worse of course in
> their
> attempt to hang onto the revenue from their handbook.
>
> Arthur
>

CTT info is free...

Go to www.ctt.org.uk

From 'main menu' on left, click on 'competition'

All CTT open events available to view by month or by distance or by
district - also details of organiser, course, cost, entry forms.

Cheers, helen s
 
"Simon Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but I have got a hub dynamo, Carradice saddlebag and Brooks
>> saddle. Is that enough, or is a Nexus dynohub not enough?
>
> Only if you're able to bear frequent humiliation for your poor judgement.
> They're a ruthless lot, those Audaxers.
>
>
So what's the difference between a CTCer and an Audaxer then?
I always thought people with Carradice saddlebags were CTCers, not Audaxers.
Peter
 
wafflycat wrote:

> CTT info is free...

> All CTT open events available to view by month or by distance or by
> district - also details of organiser, course, cost, entry forms.

Only up till the end of April. After that you don't get the address
or cost - somewhat vital info.

--
Arthur Clune
 
>
> Racers and pretend racers tend to stick to 200s or less
>
How dare you align me with racers and their ilk! :)

When I've lost seven stone perhaps the label might be more apt.....

Vernon
the juggernaut of the northern Audax scene
 
vernon wrote:
> >
> > Racers and pretend racers tend to stick to 200s or less
> >
> How dare you align me with racers and their ilk! :)
>
> When I've lost seven stone perhaps the label might be more apt.....
>
> Vernon
> the juggernaut of the northern Audax scene

That's not North.. Northern England maybe, but even York is more than
halfway from Edinburgh to London.

...d
 
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> wafflycat wrote:
>
>> CTT info is free...
>
>> All CTT open events available to view by month or by distance or by
>> district - also details of organiser, course, cost, entry forms.
>
> Only up till the end of April. After that you don't get the address
> or cost - somewhat vital info.
>
> --
> Arthur Clune

That's relatively new. You do get name & phone number of organiser, so
that's one way to check...

Usual cost of entering an open TT is about £6.50, but something like the
Rudy Project/ Nationals series is about £9.00 per event

or... you can email me, Arthur - as I've got the book & I'm happy to do some
looking up for you.

Don't forget, entries to an open TT are not done on a first come, first
served basis, so there's no point in putting an an entry early thinking
that'll get you a place, but are done on a time for the distance basis and
it's the fastest entries that are accepted. In reality this doesn't knock
people off unless they want to try out a dragstrip course... which has a
fast cut-off time for entries, e.g. 22 mins for a 10 mile TT...

Cheers, helen s
 
> So what's the difference between a CTCer and an Audaxer then?

At a guess:

CTCer ---> cake

Audaxer ---> beans on toast
 
Mark Thompson wrote:

> Audaxer ---> beans on toast

except on the Poor Student ;-)
 
vernon wrote:
>> Racers and pretend racers tend to stick to 200s or less
>>


I didn't say the short events were the exclusive to racers and pretend
racers, just that few of those cyclists do long rides, have to be home
before dark or something I suppose.
 
MartinM wrote:
>....... perhaps I'd be keener to see a non AUK member ride
> so they could get a taste of it.

I think thats appalling especially for the long events in PBP year. Turn
away members from qualifying rides for PBP ? That does not encourage
long distance cycling. Will encourage someone to ride a 300 but doesn't
help the member ride the 1200.
 
MSeries wrote:
> MartinM wrote:
> >....... perhaps I'd be keener to see a non AUK member ride
> > so they could get a taste of it.
>
> I think thats appalling especially for the long events in PBP year. Turn
> away members from qualifying rides for PBP ? That does not encourage
> long distance cycling. Will encourage someone to ride a 300 but doesn't
> help the member ride the 1200.

mine's not a qualifying ride; Don't think there will be much of a
problem with availability of rides next year from past experience. What
ACP decide to do could be more interesting. AIUI you don't have to be a
member to ride PBP although they process all entries.
 
Mark Thompson wrote:
>> So what's the difference between a CTCer and an Audaxer then?
>
> At a guess:
>
> CTCer ---> cake
>
> Audaxer ---> beans on toast
You have just the one food stop? Or only one course when you eat?
I thought peaches and rice pudding were the canonical AUK food anyway.

Mike - CTC member, AUK member, 531 frame, Brooks B17 saddle, Carradice
saddlebag. No Rohloff, no SON, no beard.

Maybe we need something like the 'geek code' for URC?

Mike
 
Mike K Smith wrote:
> Mark Thompson wrote:
> >> So what's the difference between a CTCer and an Audaxer then?
> >
> > At a guess:
> >
> > CTCer ---> cake
> >
> > Audaxer ---> beans on toast
> You have just the one food stop? Or only one course when you eat?
> I thought peaches and rice pudding were the canonical AUK food anyway.
>
> Mike - CTC member, AUK member, 531 frame, Brooks B17 saddle, Carradice
> saddlebag. No Rohloff, no SON, no beard.
>
> Maybe we need something like the 'geek code' for URC?
>
> Mike

No one has BonT at the first control, fruit pie and custard at the
next. Rice pudding is reserved for 300s or longer.
 
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