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  1. Mike Clark said:

    Rallying requires skills in driving on all sorts of
    surfaces

    I know.

    Quoted message said:

    You seem to be assuming that all rally driving takes place
    on gravel or snow.

    No, I was comparing road racing with *off-road* rallying.

    Quoted message said:

    But a tarmac rally prepared car would perform reasonably
    well around Silverstone.

    Of course.

    Quoted message said:

    In rallying the vehicles have to cope with a range of
    stages including snow and ice, gravel, mud and tarmac. In
    order to cope the teams change the suspension setup,
    including ride heights, and they also make different tyre
    choices. Rally drivers need to have all round skills to
    cope with these different surfaces.

    I know. The point that I was making was that *off-road*
    rallying requires completely different skills to road
    racing, plus the fact that the car is set up very different
    for off-road use, therefore it wouldn't handle very well on-
    road in that configuration. This can be a problem in rallies
    with mixed surfaces such as the tarmac and snow of Monte
    Carlo or even that short tarmac section in last weekend's
    New Zealand rally.

    Quoted message said:

    Obviously most of us make do with a single vehicle and one
    choice of tyres and thus there is a need for a compromise
    based on what you are going to use the vehicle for.

    Which is the point that many have made. Vehicles designed
    for offroad use don't work that well on roads.

    Paul
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  2. W. D. Grey said:
    Quoted message said:

    With rallying you intentionally take the corners too
    fast, purposely throwing the car out of control, then you
    regain control.

    Sorry Paul - I thought you knew all about rallying!

    Yes, I do.

    Quoted message said:

    The object of setting the car up for a bend is to assist
    in pointing in the right direction and using the sideways
    travel of the tyres to act as extra breaking!

    I know.

    Quoted message said:

    They are definitely not out of control

    Wanna bet? Did you see the New Zealand rally last weekend?
    Most of the top drivers had moments when they were totally
    out of control. Some recovered, others weren't so lucky.

    But I know what you mean.

    Quoted message said:

    - If I tried it maybe that would be the case but then I'm
    not a rally driver.

    That was what I meant. For most people a skidding car is out
    of control, but they skid on purpose and control the skid.
    Couldn't be bothered to explain it in detail.

    Quoted message said:

    Occasionally their enthusiasm gets the better of them but
    in general they're quite brilliant at it.

    Yes, especially the NZ rally, some of the best rally driving
    I've seen for a while. I'm surprised there weren't more
    accidents.

    Paul
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  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul
    Saunders <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    That was what I meant. For most people a skidding car is
    out of control, but they skid on purpose and control the
    skid. Couldn't be bothered to explain it in detail.

    You had to have an escape clause :-)
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  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Not that I'm accusing you of that Bill. I knew I wasn't
    explaining myself clearly when I wrote it.


    No probs - they're only words :-)

    Have a good time in Exmoor.
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  5. W. D. Grey said:

    You had to have an escape clause :-)

    Of course!

    The problem with Usenet is that if you explain things in
    great detail it's long and boring to read (I plead guilty
    M'Lord) but if you try to be concise (my latest ploy) people
    tend to pick faults, sometimes just to be pedantic.

    Not that I'm accusing you of that Bill. I knew I wasn't
    explaining myself clearly when I wrote it.

    Paul
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  6. W. D. Grey said:

    Have a good time in Exmoor.

    Thanks.

    Paul
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  7. For a 4x4 epic walk the Green Lane track from Whernside to
    Dent...if you can!

    "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    W. D. Grey said:

    Have a good time in Exmoor.

    Thanks.

    Paul
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  8. Evidence of 4x4 carnage on the Green Lane track between
    Whernside and Dent!

    "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    W. D. Grey said:

    Have a good time in Exmoor.

    Thanks.

    Paul
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  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Have a good time in Exmoor.

    Thanks.

    Mike Brockhurst said:

    For a 4x4 epic walk the Green Lane track from Whernside to
    Dent...if you can!

    A bit far from where I'm going.

    Any really quick suggestions for not-to-be-missed locations
    in North Devon? Based in Ilfracombe.

    Paul
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