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  1. Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  2. Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    --
    Too much fun! Click the card link and print 'em out.

    http://shorterlink.com/?87KN1V

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

  3. Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    --
    Too much fun! Click the card link and print 'em out.

    http://shorterlink.com/?87KN1V

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

  4. Michael 'Dog3 said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast
    in and a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed
    to pre-heat the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I
    do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    When I was a teen I didn't realize what the "preheat" setting in my then
    boyfriends' mom's oven meant let's get it really, really, really hot! (Shut
    up, Sheldon!) So we were going to broil some hamburgers. We put together
    our pennies, a pound of ground beef was about 75 cents back then.
    Hamburgers, yeah, surely we can do this. The broiler wasn't even turned on
    at that point. The preheat setting had the oven to about 425F and I
    honestly don't recall if I ever turned it off that setting. We wound up
    with nice round burnt burgers within minutes.

    Jill

  5. Michael 'Dog3 said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast
    in and a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed
    to pre-heat the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I
    do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    When I was a teen I didn't realize what the "preheat" setting in my then
    boyfriends' mom's oven meant let's get it really, really, really hot! (Shut
    up, Sheldon!) So we were going to broil some hamburgers. We put together
    our pennies, a pound of ground beef was about 75 cents back then.
    Hamburgers, yeah, surely we can do this. The broiler wasn't even turned on
    at that point. The preheat setting had the oven to about 425F and I
    honestly don't recall if I ever turned it off that setting. We wound up
    with nice round burnt burgers within minutes.

    Jill

  6. Michael 'Dog3 said:


    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

  7. Michael 'Dog3 said:


    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

  8. Sky said:
    Michael 'Dog3 said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    Quoted message said:

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Quoted message said:

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    Michael

    Quoted message said:

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

  9. Sky said:
    Michael 'Dog3 said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    Quoted message said:

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Quoted message said:

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    Michael

    Quoted message said:

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

  10. Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

  11. Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Michael 'Dog3 said:


    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    Sky

    The funny thing here is that the oven is very effective at getting up to
    temperature quickly.

    Keyron hasn't yet realized that a timer is his friend. Usually I'll re-
    heat pizza in the oven since doing so in the microwave makes it all
    soggy.

    I've found that heating the oven to 400F yields good results when the
    pizza is placed on the rack for no more than 7 minutes, therefore a
    timer is a necessity.

    He has yet to learn that so he always ends up with charcoal.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Michael 'Dog3 said:


    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    Michael

    Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    Sky

    The funny thing here is that the oven is very effective at getting up to
    temperature quickly.

    Keyron hasn't yet realized that a timer is his friend. Usually I'll re-
    heat pizza in the oven since doing so in the microwave makes it all
    soggy.

    I've found that heating the oven to 400F yields good results when the
    pizza is placed on the rack for no more than 7 minutes, therefore a
    timer is a necessity.

    He has yet to learn that so he always ends up with charcoal.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

    So you just cycle the power mains off for about 30 seconds and then back
    on.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Sky

    --
    Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
    Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

    So you just cycle the power mains off for about 30 seconds and then back
    on.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael \'Dog3\ said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    It was. I also cooked some fresh green beans to go with it. Had
    originally planned do make some apple sauce as well, but never got
    around to it.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael \'Dog3\ said:

    Miche <[email hidden]> dropped this news:micheinnz-
    [email hidden]: in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Put a nice piece of pork shoulder in the oven to roast. After it had
    been in there a bit, prepared some veges to go with it (potatoes,
    kumara/sweet potatoes, parsnip, carrots, beet(root), (Pacific) yams,
    garlic), went to put them in... and discovered the oven was on
    grill/broil and the meat was barely warm.

    <groan> Been there done it. Worse yet is the time I threw the roast in and
    a couple of hours later discovered that I had not only failed to pre-heat
    the oven, I failed to heat it at all. I hate it when I do that.

    Quoted message said:


    I've changed the oven setting now. Dinner will still be good, just a
    little later than we thought.

    (There will also be green beans and apple sauce.)

    Dinner sounds delish anyway.

    It was. I also cooked some fresh green beans to go with it. Had
    originally planned do make some apple sauce as well, but never got
    around to it.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sky said:
    Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Easy, Sky, it's the biggest breaker apart from the mains. In the 230V
    AC system we run in NZ, it's usually 32A or maybe even a bit bigger.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sky said:
    Bobo Bonobo® said:


    Sky said:


    One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roast in the
    pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself with the
    roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago, I
    forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).

    Quoted message said:


    Sky


    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Easy, Sky, it's the biggest breaker apart from the mains. In the 230V
    AC system we run in NZ, it's usually 32A or maybe even a bit bigger.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  20. Miche said:


    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sky said:
    Bobo Bonobo® said:


    On Nov 10, 12:47 pm, Sky <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > One time years ago, I or my dad put a whole beef tenderloin roastin the
    > pre-heated oven, and somehow either I or my dad accidentally turned the
    > oven dial to "clean" (ruhroh!). The oven then locked itself withthe
    > roast in the oven (big time ruhroh!). We tried to turn off the oven to
    > disengage the 'clean' option. Because this happened so long ago,I
    > forget how the roast turned out, but it was edible as I remember.

    The only way that it could have turned out OK was if you'd pulled the
    plug on the range (at least the way that my mother's used to work).
    >
    > Sky
    >
    --Bryan

    Unfortunately, that wasn't an option because it was an in-the-wall
    oven. Perhaps we could've gone to the breaker box and turned off the
    circuit, but I don't think my dad had the circuits labeled at that time.

    Easy, Sky, it's the biggest breaker apart from the mains. In the 230V
    AC system we run in NZ, it's usually 32A or maybe even a bit bigger.

    Miche

    😉 Miche. I don't think we thought about it at the time, or perhaps my
    dad did. It was a long time ago, so I forget the actual details. Dad
    was/is a "double-E" (retired now) <g> so I left it up to him how to take
    care of it (I think?!).

    Sky

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