The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
A caller called in to say that because of the smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
A caller called in to say that because of the smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
And you get waited on at your table. I agree, that's not what I call "fine dining". Intimate local places with unusual and well prepared meals served by excellent and well-dressed waitstaff are the defininition of "fine dining" to me...
One time on Usenet, "Brian Christiansen" <[email hidden]> said:
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Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
And you get waited on at your table. I agree, that's not what I call "fine dining". Intimate local places with unusual and well prepared meals served by excellent and well-dressed waitstaff are the defininition of "fine dining" to me...
I was thinking that in some areas, those places would qualify as fine dining. Some places have hardly any restaurants at all, maybe a drive to somewhere like that would be a big deal.
Then, I remember once signing a deal for a car and the guy was so happy, he could take his wife out for (some big) wedding anniversary that night, to Red Lobster. Wouldn't be my idea of a special dinner, but to them, it was.
The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
A caller called in to say that because of the smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
I am sure that she must be a truly discriminating diner if she would rather eat at a fast food joint than catch a whiff of tobacco smoke.
I was thinking that in some areas, those places would qualify as fine dining. Some places have hardly any restaurants at all, maybe a drive to somewhere like that would be a big deal.
Sorry, but IMO, being the finest dining around does not qualify as fine dining. By the standards you suggest, a McDonalds at a highway rest stop in the middle of nowhere would be fine dining. In my books, fast food joints are at the bottom of the dining/eating experience, below greasy spoons, family restaurants, franchise joints, decent restaurants, nice restaurants, and fine dining establishments.
I was thinking that in some areas, those places would qualify as fine dining. Some places have hardly any restaurants at all, maybe a drive to somewhere like that would be a big deal.
Sorry, but IMO, being the finest dining around does not qualify as fine dining. By the standards you suggest, a McDonalds at a highway rest stop in the middle of nowhere would be fine dining. In my books, fast food joints are at the bottom of the dining/eating experience, below greasy spoons, family restaurants, franchise joints, decent restaurants, nice restaurants, and fine dining establishments.
I'm talking about people's perception. In their experience that might well be their idea of fine dining ... hard to argue that one since the woman in question thought so.
she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees
I guess that is all perspective. Maybe having a "paper placemat" is her interpertation of fine dining.
My interpertation of fine dining is the Ritz Carlton Dining Room in Buckhead. ....Or maybe the Capital Grille....or slumming at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
Thanks to the Lord above....Tennessee restaurants are going ALL NON smoking October 26, 2007. The day won't get here soon enough.
Oh....and FINE DINING starts at $125 per person........that wasn't $12.50.
Sorry, but IMO, being the finest dining around does not qualify as fine dining. By the standards you suggest, a McDonalds at a highway rest stop in the middle of nowhere would be fine dining. In my books, fast food joints are at the bottom of the dining/eating experience, below greasy spoons, family restaurants, franchise joints, decent restaurants, nice restaurants, and fine dining establishments.
I'm talking about people's perception. In their experience that might well be their idea of fine dining ... hard to argue that one since the woman in question thought so.
I don't care about their perception. They are wrong, wrong, wrong. Being the best around does not make it fine dining. If a chip wagon is the only food vendor for 100 miles it is still a chip wagon, not a fine dining establishment.
Sorry, but IMO, being the finest dining around does not qualify as fine dining. By the standards you suggest, a McDonalds at a highway rest stop in the middle of nowhere would be fine dining. In my books, fast food joints are at the bottom of the dining/eating experience, below greasy spoons, family restaurants, franchise joints, decent restaurants, nice restaurants, and fine dining establishments.
I'm talking about people's perception. In their experience that might well be their idea of fine dining ... hard to argue that one since the woman in question thought so.
I don't care about their perception. They are wrong, wrong, wrong. Being the best around does not make it fine dining. If a chip wagon is the only food vendor for 100 miles it is still a chip wagon, not a fine dining establishment.
It's finer than eatin' dirt 'n' bugs. At least in my culture. 🙂
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I don't care about their perception. They are wrong, wrong, wrong. Being the best around does not make it fine dining. If a chip wagon is the only food vendor for 100 miles it is still a chip wagon, not a fine dining establishment.
Agreed, not fine dining - but in some areas, that's all there is. Some places have a diner out in the middle of nowhere where locals have a tradition of gathering on a certian night. It's a nohost party where people can meet, eat and catch up on life. --
History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins
The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
A caller called in to say that because of the smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
I am sure that she must be a truly discriminating diner if she would rather eat at a fast food joint than catch a whiff of tobacco smoke.
That's her choice. It would be mine too. I don't want to be around smoke and smokers. --
History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins
she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees
I guess that is all perspective. Maybe having a "paper placemat" is her interpertation of fine dining.
I bet it was said with a bit or sarcasm.
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My interpertation of fine dining is the Ritz Carlton Dining Room in Buckhead. ....Or maybe the Capital Grille....or slumming at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
Thanks to the Lord above....Tennessee restaurants are going ALL NON smoking October 26, 2007. The day won't get here soon enough.
Oh....and FINE DINING starts at $125 per person........that wasn't $12.50.
Fine dining is never measured in dollars. Lose a turn.
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History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins
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I'm talking about people's perception. In their experience that might well be their idea of fine dining ... hard to argue that one since the woman in question thought so.
I don't care about their perception. They are wrong, wrong, wrong. Being the best around does not make it fine dining. If a chip wagon is the only food vendor for 100 miles it is still a chip wagon, not a fine dining establishment.
Exactly. Well, perhaps not exactly - peoples' perceptions are important to them, but that does not make them right. There are millions of people who think that Rush speaks the truth, that OJ is innocent, that Jesus saves, that the world was created 6000 years ago, that astrology predicts the future, that Bush is a great president, that women are inferior to men, that Velveeta tastes good, and that Appleby's is fine dining.
The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
A caller called in to say that because of the Smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Permitting smoking means you're running a hog trough, not a restaurant.
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Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter.
Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
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By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints.
I'd say that Applebee's is a step below many fast food restaurants.
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Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
The other day, I was listening to a talk radio program. The topic of discusssion was smoking laws.
Quoted message said:
A caller called in to say that because of the smoking laws in her town being too lax (I think), she could not go to "fine dining" restaraunts like Chilis or Applebees, and was forced to go to fast food joints.
Quoted message said:
Perhaps my standards aren't very high because I have no problem eating at places like that, I even have no problem eating at fast food joints, for that matter. By the same token, I really don't think of places like Applebees, etc. to be "fine dining," and that they are really only perhaps a half-step to a step above fast food joints. Even a good part of that is because they have nicer decor.
I am sure that she must be a truly discriminating diner if she would rather eat at a fast food joint than catch a whiff of tobacco smoke.
You say that facetiously, but I think that tobacco smoke indicates a pigsty, not a restaurant. Only a pig would smoke in a restaurant in 2007.
