fine dining

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
For your listening pleasure: http://www.am1500.com/pcast/80509.mp3 --
from the MN State Fair, 8-29-07

On Sep 17, 6:29 pm, Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

A restaurant, like, with a kitchen where they cook stuff, instead of
mostly just thawing pre-cooked food, most likely packaged by
undocumented workers in Nebraska or Iowa.

Quoted message said:

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ

--Bryan

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo® said:

On Sep 17, 6:29 pm, Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

A restaurant, like, with a kitchen where they cook stuff, instead of
mostly just thawing pre-cooked food, most likely packaged by
undocumented workers in Nebraska or Iowa.

Quoted message said:

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ

--Bryan

Got it. I have no such illusions about them. I lost my innocence about
restaurant food when I helped a friend work a trade show for MN's
hospitality industry -- one exhibitor was selling pre-formed burger
patties with irregular edges (rather than perfectly round) to give the
illusion of being hand formed. I've not yet recovered from the shock.
'-)

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

Places with edible food?

"Bobo Bonobo®" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 6:29 pm, Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

A restaurant, like, with a kitchen where they cook stuff, instead of
mostly just thawing pre-cooked food, most likely packaged by
undocumented workers in Nebraska or Iowa.

True. I hate the commercials with Chef Tyler Florence. Makes you think
someone is back there making stuff from scratch from his recipe. But we
know it is frozen and premade.

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo® said:

On Sep 17, 6:29 pm, Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
> not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
> --Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

A restaurant, like, with a kitchen where they cook stuff, instead of
mostly just thawing pre-cooked food, most likely packaged by
undocumented workers in Nebraska or Iowa.

Quoted message said:

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ

--Bryan

Got it. I have no such illusions about them. I lost my innocence about
restaurant food when I helped a friend work a trade show for MN's
hospitality industry -- one exhibitor was selling pre-formed burger
patties with irregular edges (rather than perfectly round) to give the
illusion of being hand formed. I've not yet recovered from the shock.
'-)

Now that's just creepy.

In article <KRHHi.14984$Lm2.6525@trndny09>,

Julie Bove said:

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

Places with edible food?

To each one's own, eh?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

In article <1UHHi.3823$Ap2.3323@trndny05>,

Julie Bove said:

Quoted message said:

Got it. I have no such illusions about them. I lost my innocence about
restaurant food when I helped a friend work a trade show for MN's
hospitality industry -- one exhibitor was selling pre-formed burger
patties with irregular edges (rather than perfectly round) to give the
illusion of being hand formed. I've not yet recovered from the shock.
'-)

Now that's just creepy.

My innocence was shattered.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> blushingly admitted
in message
news:[email hidden]...
[Hand machine made burgers?!]

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My innocence was shattered.

Point of information, Madame Chair?

Are you sure that you ever had innocence to shatter?

The "RD&H" Ranger
---
"The Irish believe wiff a most-'oly furor that eatin' food shoul'
be a test of courage. If we can't boil it t' deff, fry it in a vat
o' grease, or stuff it in an animal intestine, we're posit've it
shouldn't be eaten."
-- John Woolery, London Underground, 1992

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <1UHHi.3823$Ap2.3323@trndny05>,

Julie Bove said:

Quoted message said:

Got it. I have no such illusions about them. I lost my innocence
about
restaurant food when I helped a friend work a trade show for MN's
hospitality industry -- one exhibitor was selling pre-formed burger
patties with irregular edges (rather than perfectly round) to give the
illusion of being hand formed. I've not yet recovered from the shock.
'-)

Now that's just creepy.

My innocence was shattered.

I've never really worked in a kitchen aside from washing dishes when I was a
young teen. That was in the church kitchen and I came towards the end of
the meal so I never saw the food being prepared.

When I worked for K Mart, I did some occasional employee breakfasts. We
bought most of our food from the regular grocery store. The only things we
got from the kitchen were bacon and those huge cans of fruit cocktail. Not
sure why they couldn't get the rest of it for us.

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Ranger said:

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> blushingly admitted
in message
news:[email hidden]...
[Hand machine made burgers?!]

Quoted message said:

My innocence was shattered.

Point of information, Madame Chair?

Are you sure that you ever had innocence to shatter?

The "RD&H" Ranger
---

In spades, Ranger. In spades.

OB food:
Apricot Almond Coffee Cake

Recipe By: posted to rec.food.cooking by Barb Schaller, 9-18-200

Dough
2 3/4 to 3 1/4 cup all purpose flour
1/4 cup sugar
1 package Fleischmann's RapidRise yeast
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon ground mace or nutmeg optional
1/2 cup milk
1/4 cup water
3 tablespoons margarine or butter cut up
1 egg

Filling
1/2 cup apricot jam or preserves
3/4 cup chopped dried apricots or golden raisins
1/3 cup slivered almonds toasted

Icing
1 cup sifted powdered sugar
1 to 2 Tbsp. milk
1/2 teaspoon pure vanilla extract

In large bowl, combine 1 cup flour, sugar, undissolved yeast, salt, and
mace. Heat 1/2 cup milk, water, and butter until very warm (120-130°);
stir into dry ingredients. Stir in egg and enough remaining flour to
make soft dough. Knead on lightly floured surface until smooth, about 7
minutes. Cover; let rest 10 minutes.

Roll dough to 20x9" rectangle; spread evenly with jam. Sprinkle
apricots and almonds over jam; roll up tightly from long side, pinching
seam to seal. Form into ring; pinch together ends. Place, seam side
down, on greased large baking sheet. With sharp knife, make cuts along
outer edge of ring at 1-inch intervals, cutting 3/4 of the way through
dough. Turn each section on its side to show filling. Cover; let rise
in warm place 30 to 60 minutes or until doubled.

Bake at 350° for 30-35 minutes or until done; cover with foil after 20
minutes to prevent excess browning. Remove from pan; cool on wire rack.
In small bowl, combine icing ingredients; stir until smooth. Drizzle
over coffee cake.

‹‹‹‹‹
Notes: (Tea ring type).
Source: Fleischmann's?

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

Becca said:

Brian Christiansen said:

I live in Tucson, AZ where just recently, a referendum was passed
that outlawed restaurants even having seperate rooms as smoking
sections, so I really don't have to make that choice.

In Louisiana, you can not smoke in restaurants, public buildings,
workplaces, shopping malls or public parks, but you can smoke in bars
and casinos.

Becca

smoking in bars is the way god intended. jeez, they ain't the
y.m.c.a.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:59:31 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Nancy Young said:

"Dee Dee" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Due to the air systems, as you know it's pretty hard to have smoking
rooms.

I do know that.

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At Costco they have designated a space (with a picnic table) at the back
end of the indoor/outdoor space for the smokers to sit. I can't recall if
it's been there in the winter yet, but so far there are plenty of takers
in this heat.

Tho, I think not being able to smoke during working hours near one's work
is a good incentive for a worker to try to quit the habit for at least 8
hours a day. Tough, tho.

Oh, they look just miserable as they stand out there on cigarette
breaks every hour. Where's my violin ...

(laugh) nancy

<lol> There is that.
My smoking co-workers always took 3 times as many breaks as the rest of
us, and we took up the slack.

maybe so, maybe not. i used to get some heat for that at work. yet
more than once i'd see my supervisor out by the elevator yakking to
somebody when i was on my way downstairs to smoke outside and see her
still there when i came back. i doubt she was thinking of it as her
'break time.'

your pal,
blake

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Dee said:

Our town is growing a lot, but there are no bistro-type restaurants;
just chains.
Dee Dee

Franchise and chain places have a business model to follow. Without the
consistent support of the local populace plus folks from outside the
immediate market area, I think it's really hard for an independent place
to survive and thrive. And I think it's hard for them to find some sort
of balance in menu to please the adventuresome diners and to appease the
folks who just want something on their plates that they didn't have to
prepare themselves. JMO.

and most 'ethnic' restaurants need a local ethnic population (at least
in the beginning) to survive. small towns may lack this.

your pal,
blake

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

fun.

your pal,
blake

The Ranger said:

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> blushingly admitted
in message
news:[email hidden]...
[Hand machine made burgers?!]

Quoted message said:

My innocence was shattered.

Point of information, Madame Chair?

Are you sure that you ever had innocence to shatter?

The "RD&H" Ranger
---

i was going to say, this must have been a pretty long time ago.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The Ranger said:

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> blushingly admitted
in message
news:[email hidden]...
[Hand machine made burgers?!]

Quoted message said:

My innocence was shattered.

Point of information, Madame Chair?

Are you sure that you ever had innocence to shatter?

i was going to say, this must have been a pretty long time ago.

Before even dirt was around no doubt!

The Ranger

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Fast food restaurants don't really pretend to be something they're
not. Chili's and Applebee's do.
--Bryan

What are they pretending to be?

fun.

your pal,
blake

Pfft. I like both places. Shoot me. I don't much like to cook most of
the time. I'm the only one in the house who's acquainted with the
stove. I like Applebee's' oriental chicken salad and I love Chili's
tortilla chips. I like food set in front of me that I didn't have to
prepare.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

The Ranger said:

Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> blushingly admitted
in message
news:[email hidden]...
[Hand machine made burgers?!]

Quoted message said:

My innocence was shattered.

Point of information, Madame Chair?

Are you sure that you ever had innocence to shatter?

The "RD&H" Ranger
---

i was going to say, this must have been a pretty long time ago.

your pal,
blake

About 5 years ago. Wiseass. <=8-?
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

Quoted message said:

and most 'ethnic' restaurants need a local ethnic population (at least
in the beginning) to survive. small towns may lack this.

your pal,
blake

We don't lack of the one, but lack of the other.
Dee Dee