Re: WHY???

"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This young girl could not have been nearly so popular as the media
portrays or she'd not have been out to a mall all on her own.

With today's independently-mined women they're going to travel alone more.

Especially when they're 18 and just run to the store in *broad daylight* to
buy a gift for a friend.

Ms P

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Scott said:

Quoted message said:

This young girl could not have been nearly so popular as the media
portrays or she'd not have been out to a mall all on her own.

With today's independently-mined women they're going to travel alone more.

See my previous post. ;-)
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Scott said:

Quoted message said:

This young girl could not have been nearly so popular as the media
portrays or she'd not have been out to a mall all on her own.

With today's independently-mined women they're going to travel alone
more.

I travel alone all the time. I hop on a plane, change planes if there's a
connecting flight and manage to get off said plane and arrive at my
destination unscathed. I don't need a chaperone.

I don't take someone with me to the grocery store, either. I have pepper
spray on my keychain. A rule of thumb is *never* leave the store still
fumbling to put your wallet away; I don't care how [censored] the people
behind you in the checkout line may get. I step out of the way (as best as
possible) and put away my wallet and securely close my purse, but hey, if
they want my purse they can have it! *Always* have your keys in your hand
as you walk out to the car. Keep your eyes open, scan the area for people
who look like they are just hanging out. Don't park next to vans (hard to
do if they pull in after you arrive) or other large vehicles that may
conceal someone hiding (I drive a small car). Always park in well lit
areas.

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't teach her
these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

jmcquown said:

Scott said:

Quoted message said:

This young girl could not have been nearly so popular as the media
portrays or she'd not have been out to a mall all on her own.

With today's independently-mined women they're going to travel alone
more.

I travel alone all the time. I hop on a plane, change planes if there's a
connecting flight and manage to get off said plane and arrive at my
destination unscathed. I don't need a chaperone.

I don't take someone with me to the grocery store, either. I have pepper
spray on my keychain. A rule of thumb is *never* leave the store still
fumbling to put your wallet away; I don't care how [censored] the people
behind you in the checkout line may get. I step out of the way (as best as
possible) and put away my wallet and securely close my purse, but hey, if
they want my purse they can have it! *Always* have your keys in your hand
as you walk out to the car. Keep your eyes open, scan the area for people
who look like they are just hanging out. Don't park next to vans (hard to
do if they pull in after you arrive) or other large vehicles that may
conceal someone hiding (I drive a small car). Always park in well lit
areas.

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't teach her
these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Maybe they ought to teach that in schools. Can't depend on the parents.

jmcquown said:

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't
teach her these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been
safe. This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I have
a hard time believing that her father did not teach her to be careful.
Parents teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink, do not smoke,
wear your seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of their own.

Becca

"Becca" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been safe.
This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I have a hard
time believing that her father did not teach her to be careful. Parents
teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink, do not smoke, wear your
seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of their own.

I don't know how much you can do about some guy following
you out of a store. You can try to be safe, do all the right things,
and some murderer can get to you. It's a shame there are people
like him in the world and no punishment is good enough for them.

nancy

Scott said:

jmcquown said:

Scott said:

> This young girl could not have been nearly so popular as the media
> portrays or she'd not have been out to a mall all on her own.
With today's independently-mined women they're going to travel alone
more.

I don't take someone with me to the grocery store, either. I have
pepper spray on my keychain. A rule of thumb is *never* leave the
store still fumbling to put your wallet away; I don't care how
[censored] the people behind you in the checkout line may get. I
step out of the way (as best as possible) and put away my wallet and
securely close my purse, but hey, if they want my purse they can
have it! *Always* have your keys in your hand as you walk out to
the car. Keep your eyes open, scan the area for people who look
like they are just hanging out. Don't park next to vans (hard to do
if they pull in after you arrive) or other large vehicles that may
conceal someone hiding (I drive a small car). Always park in well
lit areas.

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't
teach her these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Maybe they ought to teach that in schools. Can't depend on the
parents.

I don't think it should be up to the schools. Teachers are already
underpaid and under-appreciated. They have classrooms with more kids than
any I was ever in. But then again, being sent to the principal's office
used to actually put some fear into them. And they could paddle a kid for
acting like an idiot. Teachers have enough on their hands without having to
play parents, too. Just my 2 cents.

Jill

jmcquown said:

I don't think it should be up to the schools. Teachers are already
underpaid and under-appreciated. They have classrooms with more kids
than any I was ever in. But then again, being sent to the
principal's office used to actually put some fear into them. And
they could paddle a kid for acting like an idiot. Teachers have
enough on their hands without having to play parents, too. Just my 2
cents.

Jill

School teachers have their hands full, you are right.

Teaching public awareness could be done by volunteers during an
assembly. The Humane Society has been educating children in schools,
because it is a good idea to start when they are young. Unfortunately,
children learn a lot of ways to hurt animals, such as using kerosene to
treat mange, etc.

Becca

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Becca" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been
safe. This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I have a
hard time believing that her father did not teach her to be careful.
Parents teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink, do not smoke,
wear your seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of their own.

I don't know how much you can do about some guy following
you out of a store. You can try to be safe, do all the right things,
and some murderer can get to you. It's a shame there are people
like him in the world and no punishment is good enough for them.

nancy

I agree. There are always going to be wicked people in this world. And
trying to outsmart someone who you don't know is wanting to harm you is very
difficult because they have the edge. My goddaughter was murdered and raped
when she was 11 years old. She was street saavy and wiser than her years.
Her abductor was 30 odd and had a plan.

elaine

Becca said:

jmcquown said:

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't
teach her these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been
safe. This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I
have a hard time believing that her father did not teach her to be
careful. Parents teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink,
do not smoke, wear your seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of
their own.
Becca

I'm having a hard time with this young girl's death today. She had
just graduated, was bright and pretty and her life has been wrenched
away. At the same time, we have the news reporters concentrating on
spoiled Paris Hilton and her having served five days of her original 45
days in prison "but will wear an ankle bracelet and be under house
arrest". Things seem on tilt, somehow.

Dora

"elaine" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know how much you can do about some guy following
you out of a store. You can try to be safe, do all the right things,
and some murderer can get to you. It's a shame there are people
like him in the world and no punishment is good enough for them.

Quoted message said:

I agree. There are always going to be wicked people in this world. And
trying to outsmart someone who you don't know is wanting to harm you is
very difficult because they have the edge. My goddaughter was murdered
and raped when she was 11 years old. She was street saavy and wiser than
her years. Her abductor was 30 odd and had a plan.

What a heartbreaker, elaine. I'm very sorry that happened.

Somewhat coincidentally, I'm watching an episode of Notorious and
this one is about Scott Peterson. There are monsters walking around
and you don't always see them coming.

nancy

elaine said:

My goddaughter was murdered and raped when she was 11 years old. She
was street saavy and wiser than her years. Her abductor was 30 odd
and had a plan.

elaine

Oh Elaine, how terrible. The poor, poor child. She was only 11, that is
so young, and no child should suffer and die from such a violent death.
I know this is a nightmare that continues to haunt her parents, and you
too. It makes you sick to think about it.

Becca

limey said:

Becca said:

jmcquown said:

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't
teach her these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been
safe. This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I
have a hard time believing that her father did not teach her to be
careful. Parents teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink,
do not smoke, wear your seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of
their own.
Becca

I'm having a hard time with this young girl's death today. She had
just graduated, was bright and pretty and her life has been wrenched
away. At the same time, we have the news reporters concentrating on
spoiled Paris Hilton and her having served five days of her original 45
days in prison "but will wear an ankle bracelet and be under house
arrest". Things seem on tilt, somehow.

Dora

You should also be concerned that the media has already convicted the
suspect in the case. There has been no trial and the only evidence we're
aware of so far is that someone who looked like the suspect was shopping
at the same store at about the same time. Perhaps the police have more
evidence, but the media doesn't and should not be convicting the guy
before a trial.

Pete C.

"limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Becca said:

jmcquown said:

The thing is, this was a teenager. And sadly, her parents didn't
teach her these basic rules. Mine did. I feel for the family.

Jill

Jill, I am glad you are cautious, this is probably why you have been
safe. This girl's father was in law enforcement for 16 years, so I
have a hard time believing that her father did not teach her to be
careful. Parents teach kids a lot; do not take drugs, do not drink,
do not smoke, wear your seatbelt, etc., but teenagers have a mind of
their own.
Becca

I'm having a hard time with this young girl's death today. She had just
graduated, was bright and pretty and her life has been wrenched away. At
the same time, we have the news reporters concentrating on spoiled Paris
Hilton and her having served five days of her original 45 days in prison
"but will wear an ankle bracelet and be under house arrest". Things seem
on tilt, somehow.

Dora

Crazy! Would that all people in jail are moved to house arrest because they
cannot eat the food and endangering their health.

Spoiled or what..........

e.

elaine

elaine said:

I agree. There are always going to be wicked people in this world. And
trying to outsmart someone who you don't know is wanting to harm
you is very difficult because they have the edge. My goddaughter was
murdered and raped when she was 11 years old. She was street saavy
and wiser than her years. Her abductor was 30 odd and had a plan.

Big hugsssssssssssssss Elaine. I know that will be no help but please know
that someone is feeling for you!

O in Scotland

elaine said:

Crazy! Would that all people in jail are moved to house arrest
because they cannot eat the food and endangering their health.

Spoiled or what..........

e.

elaine

The judge said Paris would not be allowed any alternative jail methods
or electronic monitoring, but now she has been "reassigned" to house
arrest. I should not comment, because I have no idea what really
happened, but this makes it look like her attorneys handed the judge a
big, fat contribution to his reelection campaign. I am not saying this
happened, but this is what people will assume.

It is nice to be rich. LOL I am only guessing, of course.

Becca

Becca said:

elaine said:

Crazy! Would that all people in jail are moved to house arrest
because they cannot eat the food and endangering their health.

Spoiled or what..........

e.

elaine

The judge said Paris would not be allowed any alternative jail methods
or electronic monitoring, but now she has been "reassigned" to house
arrest. I should not comment, because I have no idea what really
happened, but this makes it look like her attorneys handed the judge a
big, fat contribution to his reelection campaign. I am not saying this
happened, but this is what people will assume.

It is nice to be rich. LOL I am only guessing, of course.

Becca

Perhaps they can reassign the house arrest to a Motel 6 in Oakland or
something...

Becca said:

The judge said Paris would not be allowed any alternative jail methods
or electronic monitoring, but now she has been "reassigned" to house
arrest. I should not comment, because I have no idea what really
happened, but this makes it look like her attorneys handed the judge a
big, fat contribution to his reelection campaign. I am not saying this
happened, but this is what people will assume.

It is nice to be rich. LOL I am only guessing, of course.

Perhaps there was a matter of Hilton's personal safety. Prisons are full of
nasty women and they were probably planning on giving her a little prison
justice just for something to do.

"Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Perhaps there was a matter of Hilton's personal safety. Prisons are full
of
nasty women and they were probably planning on giving her a little prison
justice just for something to do.

She wasn't in the general population.

My take is that they didn't want her in jail but knew there would
be an outcry if she just walked. I was surprised she was stuck
for longer than a day.

nancy