Weighst or rowing machine?

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I'm wanting to buy some exercise equip that is not
massive and is easy to move and somewhat compact.

I live alone and always try to buy things that I can
move by myself

having said that I realize I could get a decent bench
and set of Powerbells and that would be fairly space
efficient

My other option is to get a Concept rowing machine and
maybe it will provide all the exercise I need

any thoughts on weights vs a rowing machine?

I know its a bit like comparing apples to oranges but
Id appreciate some opinions anyway!

Thanks!

No it is not the same as apples to oranges - more like apples to broccoli.
What are your goals? Rowing machines aren't worth a [censored] for any purpose.
(imo)

David said:

No it is not the same as apples to oranges - more like apples to broccoli.
What are your goals? Rowing machines aren't worth a [censored] for any purpose.

My goals are to get strength, flexibility, and cardio
training in a one hr lunch at home.

I'm 48.....I read somewhere that we should pick
exercise routines that keep the joints "fluid" and do
not impact them but at same time build muscle and
cardio. In other words pick an "old man"
exercise....something you can do well into your 80s
that is NOT destructive to the body say like playing
football would be.

So I'm thinking (out loud here)..... that I can do it
with Powerbells and a bench..... and a recumbent exer
bike...... or maybe do it all with a Concept rower?

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David said:

No it is not the same as apples to oranges - more like apples to broccoli.
What are your goals? Rowing machines aren't worth a [censored] for any purpose.

My goals are to get strength, flexibility, and cardio
training in a one hr lunch at home.

I'm 48.....I read somewhere that we should pick
exercise routines that keep the joints "fluid" and do
not impact them but at same time build muscle and
cardio. In other words pick an "old man"
exercise....something you can do well into your 80s
that is NOT destructive to the body say like playing
football would be.

So I'm thinking (out loud here)..... that I can do it
with Powerbells and a bench..... and a recumbent exer
bike...... or maybe do it all with a Concept rower?

You would need to consider your needs as 'cardio' and 'strength' - cardio
would best be covered by running or, walking (just on street is cheapest
otherwise I would have a treadmill. - recumbent cycle is also a good choice
as you are able to do upper body exercise while pedalling to increase the
aerobic effect) - for strength I would do a weights routine with a
barbell/dumbell set and a bench. Internet is full of routines. A rowing
machine doesn;t cut it as it won't build muscle and it is too high impact on
certain muscles/joints to allow a decent cardio routine (imo)

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David said:

No it is not the same as apples to oranges - more like apples to broccoli.
What are your goals? Rowing machines aren't worth a [censored] for any purpose.

My goals are to get strength, flexibility, and cardio
training in a one hr lunch at home.

I'm 48.....I read somewhere that we should pick
exercise routines that keep the joints "fluid" and do
not impact them but at same time build muscle and
cardio. In other words pick an "old man"
exercise....something you can do well into your 80s
that is NOT destructive to the body say like playing
football would be.

So I'm thinking (out loud here)..... that I can do it
with Powerbells and a bench..... and a recumbent exer
bike...... or maybe do it all with a Concept rower?

You can, but do a weight training schedule too, in order to reduce the
LBM loss and keep the metabolism elevated as much as possible.

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David said:

No it is not the same as apples to oranges - more like apples to
broccoli. What are your goals? Rowing machines aren't worth a [censored]
for any purpose.

My goals are to get strength, flexibility, and cardio training in a
one hr lunch at home.

An hour is plenty of time, even if you want to use some of that time
for eating 🙂.

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I'm 48.....I read somewhere that we should pick exercise routines
that keep the joints "fluid" and do not impact them but at same time
build muscle and cardio. In other words pick an "old man"
exercise....something you can do well into your 80s that is NOT
destructive to the body say like playing football would be.

I would strongly recommend that you take a look at Clarence Bass's
site:

http://www.cbass.com

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So I'm thinking (out loud here)..... that I can do it with
Powerbells and a bench..... and a recumbent exer bike...... or maybe
do it all with a Concept rower?

Dumb bells are about the most versatile piece of exercise equipment
ever invented. If you are looking for something that does it all, get
the dumb bells. You don't even really need a bench if you are pressed
for space. Lately my workouts have revolved around deadlifts, power
cleans, front squats, and overhead presses all of which can be done
with nothing more than a simple barbell and some weight.

Mix in some Tabata Intervals and you can even get an excellent
cardiovascular workout.

Jason

Jason Earl said:

An hour is plenty of time, even if you want to use some of that time
for eating 🙂.

Actually it will be more like 30 min's as there is a 15
min drive home and 15 min drive back

David said:

A rowing
machine doesn;t cut it as it won't build muscle and it is too high impact on
certain muscles/joints to allow a decent cardio routine (imo)

Here is the Concept Rower in link

http://tinyurl.com/fjm8w

The thing that attracts me to the rower is that it
keeps all my joints "lubed" ..... uses them in a range
of motion

Jason Earl said:

Dumb bells are about the most versatile piece of exercise equipment
ever invented.

OK.... I'm sold

I mean they are compact and don't need to take a lot of
space, correct?

I could easily move them myself from one apartment to
another without any help, correct?

I'm looking at something like Powerblocks.... that OK

My main concern is what to get for indoor cardio. I'm
thinking either a recumbent exer bike or the Concept
Rower.

I'm leaning towards the recumbent exer bike as its
cheaper

Its very important that whatever I get that I can move
it myself without any help. Being single and moving a
lot I apply that parameter to everything I own. <G>

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David said:

A rowing
machine doesn;t cut it as it won't build muscle and it is too high impact
on
certain muscles/joints to allow a decent cardio routine (imo)

Here is the Concept Rower in link

http://tinyurl.com/fjm8w

The thing that attracts me to the rower is that it
keeps all my joints "lubed" ..... uses them in a range
of motion

Rowing overuses certain muscles - it is like a high rep low weights workout
but you are doing hundreds of reps - so you get fatigue in certain muscles
(shoulders, quads) which doesn't make them bigger - look at a marathon
runner for instance. On the other hand it is only a pulling movement so your
pecs get no action. Also it is difficult to increment rowing machines for
goal setting. Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage

see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
go to www.bodybuilding.com .

P.S.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

David said:

Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage

Point taken

I always assumed that rowers were some of the fittest
people in the world tho.

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DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

OK

Thanks

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David said:

Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage

Point taken

I always assumed that rowers were some of the fittest
people in the world tho.

Maybe they are which means that rules for highly conditioned athletes are
different from the rest of us (Dally is a case in point right here in this
ng!)

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see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
go to www.bodybuilding.com .

P.S.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:53:17 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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David said:

Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage

Point taken

I always assumed that rowers were some of the fittest
people in the world tho.

Maybe they are which means that rules for highly conditioned athletes are
different from the rest of us (Dally is a case in point right here in this
ng!)

You are now talking about the cream of athletes, it's not fair to
expect someone to aspire to those heady heights. ;o)

Lee Michaels said:

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see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
go to www.bodybuilding.com .

P.S.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!

People who live in glass houses Mr Michaels...

4th one down:
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Lee Michaels:
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Jason Earl said:

Dumb bells are about the most versatile piece of exercise equipment
ever invented.

OK.... I'm sold

I mean they are compact and don't need to take a lot of space,
correct?

I think you would be hard pressed to find exercise equipment that
takes up less space and is even marginally effective. Free weights
are far more than simply marginally effective.

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I could easily move them myself from one apartment to another
without any help, correct?

It looks like the heaviest set of powerblocks that you can get is 130
lbs. per hand. I would consider that "easy to move," but then again,
I lift heavy stuff for fun 🙂. If you can't move 130 lbs by yourself
after using the powerblocks for a while then you probably need to try
something else.

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I'm looking at something like Powerblocks.... that OK

I am a cheapskate. You can buy Olympic dumbbell handles an Oly
barbell and Oly plates for far less, and you'll get a more functional
package. Dumbbells are nice, but it won't be long before you are able
to move more than 130 lbs in some of the really important movements
like the deadlift or the squat. Getting Oly dumbbells complements an
Oly barbell and weights without adding much to the cost. Besides,
power cleans are fun.

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My main concern is what to get for indoor cardio. I'm
thinking either a recumbent exer bike or the Concept
Rower.

Personally, if I feel like hamstering for distance, I just go outside
and either run or walk. If I am pressed for time, I do stairs, or I
do Tabata Front squats.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=04-046-training

Recumbent bikes are sort of nice if you like to spend some calories
while reading or watching TV though. That's not my thing, but some
people really like them.

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I'm leaning towards the recumbent exer bike as its cheaper

Cheaper is better, assuming that you don't break the bike. I have
heard that the Concept2 rowers hold up pretty well under use.

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Its very important that whatever I get that I can move
it myself without any help. Being single and moving a
lot I apply that parameter to everything I own. <G>

Dumbbells would definitely work, and it looks like the Powerblocks are
at least upgradeable to fairly serious amounts of weight. One of the
nice things about Oly bars is that it is always possible to purchase
more plates. There is no question that the Powerblocks look nicer 🙂.

Jason

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see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
go to www.bodybuilding.com .

P.S.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!

DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM LATHE OPERATORS!!
Lee, you are dumber than a box of rocks. I've always thought that you knew
[censored] about training and you are proving me right every time you post some
inane [censored]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:50:53 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
go to www.bodybuilding.com .

P.S.
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!

DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM LATHE OPERATORS!!
Lee, you are dumber than a box of rocks. I've always thought that you knew
[censored] about training and you are proving me right every time you post some
inane [censored]

Talking about Lee, which we isn't, do you think he has a full hod of
bricks?

If he gives you the [censored] why don't you threaten to allegedly
"killfile" him, that will frighten the [censored] out of him!