Weighst or rowing machine?

Dally said:

Quoted message said:

Are you guys aware that there's a newsgroup called
misc.fitness.aerobic?

Yeah sorry abt the thread drift. I should have asked
over there I guess

Quoted message said:

What, you want to run off people talking about fitness?

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

I've settled on dumb bells and bench for the weight end
of things.

JMW said:

He's really
enamored with the Concept machine, and he really wants someone to tell
him to buy it. And if he waits long enough, there will always be a
n00b who will tell him to get it because "it's as good as the weights,
dude."

Totally wrong

I'm not enamored with anything

I come here asking humble advice

Sorry if its wadded your panties

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

Because my main cardio is running and I'm only likely to go inside and
use horrid indoor cardio equipment if I'm cross-training from my REAL
sports, and a rowing machine uses different muscles (and different
joints in case I've got an injured something-or-other).

But I wouldn't BUY one. No way I'd use it enough to offset the cost.

Quoted message said:

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

The two cardio machines I've actually gone out and bought are a
NordicTrack and a trainer for my bike. The NordicTrack is a full-body
workout, good for 20 minutes when I must get some sweating done but I'm
not going to get a sport in. It is compact and relatively cheap
compared to a decent treadmill.

The other thing I've bought is a Kurt Kinetic Trainer that I can attach
my road bike to and I've got a bunch of spinning DVDs that I watch while
I spin in the livingroom. The bike is yearning to break free and get
outdoors and as soon as I've got clear roads and daylight I'll spring it
(and me) from its jail cell and turn "spinning" into "cycling". Now
THAT's a sustainable sport.

Quoted message said:

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

Recumbant bike is huge, expensive and boring as hell. It doesn't work
the arms, it doesn't get you outside in fresh air, and chances are you
won't get your heart-rate up enough once you get used to it.

The Concept II is JUST as huge, JUST as expensive and pales in
comparison to just going out and buying a kayak. (Which is what I've
actually done instead of buying more crappy indoor cardio equipment.)

Quoted message said:

I've settled on dumb bells and bench for the weight end
of things.

Good idea.

Dally

Quoted message said:

JMW said:

He's really
enamored with the Concept machine, and he really wants someone to tell
him to buy it. And if he waits long enough, there will always be a
n00b who will tell him to get it because "it's as good as the weights,
dude."

Totally wrong

I'm not enamored with anything

I come here asking humble advice

Only Joe Humble can help you.

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Sorry if its wadded your panties

He sent me an email where he said he was enamored with my [censored]. So
he's lieing, he IS enamored.

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Dally said:

Quoted message said:

Are you guys aware that there's a newsgroup called
misc.fitness.aerobic?

Yeah sorry abt the thread drift. I should have asked
over there I guess

Quoted message said:

What, you want to run off people talking about fitness?

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

It is the word "effective" that matters most here. What "effect" are
you after? Fitness means many things to many people. What will you
actually use? Is it even possible to know until you've used it for a
while?

Quoted message said:

I've settled on dumb bells and bench for the weight end
of things.

Lots of people love Concept rowers - if you're into that, I think it's a
good investment. It would bore me to tears but that's just me. The
other things to keep in mind is your age - the older we get, the more
important strength training becomes. I don't know if it's because I
have an endurance background, but I can keep my endurance in good enough
shape (low resting pulse) with very little work and found I was losing
what little muscle I had as I moved through my 40's, so I've settled
into a program that's mostly weights using kettlebells and barbells, no
dumbbells and no bench, and I happy with the training and with the
results.

Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

JMW said:

He's really
enamored with the Concept machine, and he really wants someone to tell
him to buy it. And if he waits long enough, there will always be a
n00b who will tell him to get it because "it's as good as the weights,
dude."

Totally wrong

I'm not enamored with anything

I come here asking humble advice

Sorry if its wadded your panties

Don't worry about John Williams Me, he's nothing but a "troll" and has
been "trolling" newcomers to the Group, who is describes rather
childishly as n00bs, for more years than I care to remember.

Dally said:

The bike is yearning to break free

What brand/model bicycle do you have?

MT bike, touring bike, what?

Dally said:

(Which is what I've
actually done instead of buying more crappy indoor cardio equipment.)

Actually I agree with you above

Id MUCH rather use REAL equip outside

But living in north Missouri in the winter doesn't
allow that due to weather and time constraints

hence my desire to not wrap up a bunch of money into
indoor equip. Or ate least get equip that is cost
effective for cardio work

As far as muscle work..... the dumb bells and bench
will work out just fine as far as easy to move, cost
effectiveness, and compactness.

Steve Freides said:

It is the word "effective" that matters most here. What "effect" are
you after? Fitness means many things to many people. What will you
actually use? Is it even possible to know until you've used it for a
while?

a bit of everything really..... good cardio workout,
good muscle development , and most important
flexibility but yet nothings that impacts any joints.

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Dally said:

Quoted message said:

Are you guys aware that there's a newsgroup called
misc.fitness.aerobic?

Yeah sorry abt the thread drift. I should have asked
over there I guess

Quoted message said:

What, you want to run off people talking about fitness?

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

I've settled on dumb bells and bench for the weight end
of things.

Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your upper
body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls, tricep
ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.

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Dally said:

Quoted message said:

Are you guys aware that there's a newsgroup called
misc.fitness.aerobic?

Yeah sorry abt the thread drift. I should have asked
over there I guess

Quoted message said:

What, you want to run off people talking about fitness?

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

I've settled on dumb bells and bench for the weight end
of things.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

BTW, I'd get the rowing machine over the recumbant bike any day.

really? How come?

Because my main cardio is running and I'm only likely to go inside and use
horrid indoor cardio equipment if I'm cross-training from my REAL sports,
and a rowing machine uses different muscles (and different joints in case
I've got an injured something-or-other).

But I wouldn't BUY one. No way I'd use it enough to offset the cost.

Quoted message said:

I ask cause I'm facing similar decision between concept
rower and recumbent bike myself

The two cardio machines I've actually gone out and bought are a
NordicTrack and a trainer for my bike. The NordicTrack is a full-body
workout, good for 20 minutes when I must get some sweating done but I'm
not going to get a sport in. It is compact and relatively cheap compared
to a decent treadmill.

The other thing I've bought is a Kurt Kinetic Trainer that I can attach my
road bike to and I've got a bunch of spinning DVDs that I watch while I
spin in the livingroom. The bike is yearning to break free and get
outdoors and as soon as I've got clear roads and daylight I'll spring it
(and me) from its jail cell and turn "spinning" into "cycling". Now
THAT's a sustainable sport.

Quoted message said:

Please remember my goal is to get the most effective
yet compact easily moveable set of indoor equip I can

Recumbant bike is huge, expensive and boring as hell. It doesn't work the
arms,

Only a novice would say that rec cycles don't work 'the arms' - a smart
bookeeper should also learn how to spell 'recumbent'

David said:

Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your upper
body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls, tricep
ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.

Great idea!!!

You are right!!

thanks!

David said:

Main advantage with a Recumbent

Another one is price

That Schwinn recumbent exer bike costs a lot less than
a Concept II rower I think

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David said:

Main advantage with a Recumbent

Another one is price

That Schwinn recumbent exer bike costs a lot less than
a Concept II rower I think

Tunturi also make a nice bike I think around $300.

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David said:

Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your
upper
body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls, tricep
ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.

Great idea!!!

You are right!!

thanks!

As the great elzinator used to teach in her clases, any aerobic exercise
that involves sitting down is far inferior to one where you stand and do
something.

If you think great things are going to be accomplished while sitting on your
ass, go for it. Lots of lazy, ignorant people will agree with you.

And the above David, who you seem to think is a good source of information,
sells the [censored] he is reccomending to you.

He is also a troll.

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David said:

Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your
upper
body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls,
tricep
ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.

Great idea!!!

You are right!!

thanks!

As the great elzinator used to teach in her clases, any aerobic exercise
that involves sitting down is far inferior to one where you stand and do
something.

What do you think you are doing on a rower, idiot? Last time I checked, you
row by sitting on your ass.

Quoted message said:

If you think great things are going to be accomplished while sitting on
your ass, go for it. Lots of lazy, ignorant people will agree with you.

Stick to woodworking, Lee. You know [censored] about exercise.

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And the above David, who you seem to think is a good source of
information, sells the [censored] he is reccomending to you.

Not true. I don't sell anything.

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He is also a troll.

And you are also a moron

Thars beautiful Daddy, do any of u guys check out other males schlongs
in the changing rooms- if so do you get a semi?

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"David" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your
>upper
>body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
>dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls,
>tricep
>ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.

Great idea!!!

You are right!!

thanks!

As the great elzinator used to teach in her clases, any aerobic exercise
that involves sitting down is far inferior to one where you stand and do
something.

What do you think you are doing on a rower, idiot? Last time I checked, you
row by sitting on your ass.

Quoted message said:

If you think great things are going to be accomplished while sitting on
your ass, go for it. Lots of lazy, ignorant people will agree with you.

Stick to woodworking, Lee. You know [censored] about exercise.

Quoted message said:

And the above David, who you seem to think is a good source of
information, sells the [censored] he is reccomending to you.

Not true. I don't sell anything.

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He is also a troll.

And you are also a moron

What a waste of space he really is. He's got it in his mind that he
has to be hostile to a few people, because somebody else told him that
they were the bad guys.

I think that sums up what a silly old fool Mr Michaels is.

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:09:13 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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> "David" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Main advantage with a Recumbent is that with the seating position your
>>upper
>>body is braced (as opposed to a standard ex cycle) so that you can do a
>>dumbell workout while cycling. You can do chest flies, bicep curls,
>>tricep
>>ext, shoulder presses all while cycling.
>
> Great idea!!!
>
> You are right!!
>
> thanks!

As the great elzinator used to teach in her clases, any aerobic exercise
that involves sitting down is far inferior to one where you stand and do
something.

What do you think you are doing on a rower, idiot? Last time I checked,
you
row by sitting on your ass.

Quoted message said:

If you think great things are going to be accomplished while sitting on
your ass, go for it. Lots of lazy, ignorant people will agree with you.

Stick to woodworking, Lee. You know [censored] about exercise.

Quoted message said:

And the above David, who you seem to think is a good source of
information, sells the [censored] he is reccomending to you.

Not true. I don't sell anything.

Quoted message said:

He is also a troll.

And you are also a moron

What a waste of space he really is. He's got it in his mind that he
has to be hostile to a few people, because somebody else told him that
they were the bad guys.

I think that sums up what a silly old fool Mr Michaels is.

Let's face it, he is a mental giant. You have to feel sorry for him.